Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Got one in my ORCS SE. Discuss. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Veiler"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Veiler[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Defines the game in the TCG alongside C and Chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Staple Miku look a like is a staple. Tuner, Great art, good effect, LIGHT, Sangan, what more could you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 IMO 2 Veilers or 1 Veiler + 2 Maxx "C" is the best number to run this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1332290956' post='5881407'] Staple Miku look a like is a staple. Tuner, Great art, good effect, LIGHT, Sangan, what more could you want? [/quote] If it was level 1 and had a bunch of revival stuff. Oh wait lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Veiler is essentially better than Maxx "C" now, right? Actually I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1332329163' post='5881889'] Veiler is essentially better than Maxx "C" now, right? Actually I'm not sure. [/quote]It is. Maxx "C" is only really good against a Swarm deck liek Sams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Maxx C is better against Rabbit. Veiler is better against Inzektors. Both are relatively dead in the opposite matchup, except for Maxx C, although it can get to the point where dropping either becomes situational, so it's arguable that neither are really necessary and could be taken out of a deck to allow for other cards that aid in consistency. However, neither is a bad card, and can both be mained very easily, generally in a 2:2 ratio, without cutting into consistency, although this can mean you have less room for techs since you're already running 4 potentially dead cards. Oh and both are pretty terrible against rogue, depending on what deck it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1332334350' post='5881957'] Oh and both are pretty terrible against rogue, depending on what deck it is. [/quote] Both are terrible against HEROes that are not Gate, for example. Veiler only negates Stratos and Maxx can only draw 1 from Miracle and can't be chained to Super Poly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1332334451' post='5881958'] Both are terrible against HEROes that are not Gate, for example. Veiler only negates Stratos and Maxx can only draw 1 from Miracle and can't be chained to Super Poly. [/quote]Actually, Veiler has a party vs. Shining. Sets the ATK back a bit. Then if you destroy it during that turn, the opp doesnt get their banished HERO's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 [quote name='Dworkin' timestamp='1332335483' post='5881982'] Actually, Veiler has a party vs. Shining. Sets the ATK back a bit. Then if you destroy it during that turn, the opp doesnt get their banished HERO's back. [/quote] Setting its ATK back to 2600 won't do much. And iirc, Veiler only works if the monster's effect resolves on the field in some way. Shining activates and resolves in the graveyard, after Veiler's effect has nullified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Ohhh. Whoops. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Popular Decks and which of Veiler or Maxx are best against it. Laval: Maxx "C", though neither are particularly effective Hieratic Maxx "C", the moment they tribute to SS, use this to draw 2 and stop their SS looping Inzektors Veiler, Inzectors effects are far more dangerous than their swarming. Plus no effect = no swarm Wind-Ups Both work efficiently, depending on how you plan to take down their set up. Gravekeepers Veiler, Plussing off of Descendant is fun Gladiator Beasts Maxx "C" but just barely Elemental HEROs Veiler is better, but neither does well against the stun variety Dark World Maxx "C" You can't really negate any of the Dark World monsters with Veiler. Karakuri Veiler stops the loop if you need that, but if you feel confident you'll survive the attack, Maxx "C" is better. Feel free to add to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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