<<<Ehleron, Demon Master of Self-Conservation>>> aka Freezerdon done right

[Valkyrus]

[img]http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb278/mario1092/ehlerondmosc.jpg[/img]

It's an old card of mine I almost completely remaked. Didn't have Freezerdon in mind before but it ended up that way.
And since I like the concept of Freezerdon, I thought I should make it a little more usable.

Anyways, comment/rate/love/hate/suggest/fix/vote for president.

[Valkyrus]

bump

[guuu1234]

Can you drop the material needed to Xyz summon this card down to 3? Currently no monsters use 4 Xyz Materials (i'm pretty sure at least) and since it requires an Xyz monster that has 3 or more material, it's not that much different then summoning this card already since it will have 4 Material attached to it regardless.

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1332456545' post='5884218']
Can you drop the material needed to Xyz summon this card down to 3? Currently no monsters use 4 Xyz Materials (i'm pretty sure at least) and since it requires an Xyz monster that has 3 or more material, it's not that much different then summoning this card already since it will have 4 Material attached to it regardless.
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it doesn't really matter since no one will summon it that way anyways. The only difference is, if you want to play this you'd need to run at least 1 xyz monster that needs 3 materials. Or nothing extra at all in a Stellar Decks since ptolemys.

[thekazu4u]

This thing is a boss. Summoner Monk -> Discard 1 -> Sacred Crane -> Draw 1 -> Utopia -> Utopia Ray -> This -> Profit.

Yea... I think a bit OP'd. This is essentially a 2 lvl 4 XYZ mat or a 3 lvl 1 xyz mat.

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1332467045' post='5884532']
This thing is a boss. Summoner Monk -> Discard 1 -> Sacred Crane -> Draw 1 -> Utopia -> Utopia Ray -> This -> Profit.

Yea... I think a bit OP'd. This is essentially a 2 lvl 4 XYZ mat or a 3 lvl 1 xyz mat.
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hmm, I didn't think of Utopia Ray before..But to summon Ehleron using utopia ray you wouldn't have used any of the utopias' effects so I don't think it'd be OP'd. Still, maybe you have a point...

[thekazu4u]

[quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1332467528' post='5884549']
hmm, I didn't think of Utopia Ray before..But to summon Ehleron using utopia ray you wouldn't have used any of the utopias' effects so I don't think it'd be OP'd. Still, maybe you have a point...
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I don't think you are understanding. You would not give them a turn. You would just go Utopia, straight to ray, straight to this card. You can get this card out with NO CHANGE IN CARD ADVANTAGE AT ALL. Next, you drop ray and pull back ray with its own effect. Now you have gained overall a +1. You went from summoner monk with 1 spell in hand to 1 2600 ATKER with all the effects AND a 2500 ATKer, ALSO getting a draw from sacred crane. Consider you can do the exact same thing again next turn w/ Ehleron and things are getting pretty crazy. +1s in XYZ are generally no good. The only other one that comes close is Tour Guide -> Leviar. And at least that one you only get a 1800 atk xyz and a level 4 or lower banished monster. This one you get ANY xyz from either player's graveyard. Yea... o.0

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1332468396' post='5884563']
I don't think you are understanding. You would not give them a turn. You would just go Utopia, straight to ray, straight to this card. You can get this card out with NO CHANGE IN CARD ADVANTAGE AT ALL. Next, you drop ray and pull back ray with its own effect. Now you have gained overall a +1. You went from summoner monk with 1 spell in hand to 1 2600 ATKER with all the effects AND a 2500 ATKer, ALSO getting a draw from sacred crane. Consider you can do the exact same thing again next turn w/ Ehleron and things are getting pretty crazy. +1s in XYZ are generally no good. The only other one that comes close is Tour Guide -> Leviar. And at least that one you only get a 1800 atk xyz and a level 4 or lower banished monster. This one you get ANY xyz from either player's graveyard. Yea... o.0
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of course I understand that..
hmm, it will fix it if I make it a "the number of Xyz Materials of that monster must be 3 or more [i]and of the same level[/i]"
so you can't use it with Utopia Ray that way since Utopia would be a Rank 4 material, not level 4. It would also not let it be used
with xyz monsters summoned with cards that alter their levels.