This Account is Unplayable Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 [img]http://i.imgur.com/A70GN.jpg[/img] Side is entirely half-assed, but I'm too lazy to want to make it much better. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why CoH? Also I found Gorz to clash with Factory more often than not in my build...so I dropped him. Try 1 or 2 Instant Fusion as it opens plays with other wise dead hands (or if TGU/Rat gets veilered/chained) I personally like 3 Magicians because it can plus out the ass...but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Not sure if sarcastic or just... 3 CotH is normal and uncreative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 So -Gorz for Instant makes sense but ew extra deck space. CotH is amazing, and should be standard in Wind-Ups. s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Needs less traps and more Rabbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335243406' post='5923842'] Needs less traps and more Rabbits. [/quote] ...Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335243506' post='5923844'] ...Why? [/quote] More backrow makes Inzektors happy. Also, you should throw in a Soldier. Makes going for rank 5's a bit easier. Oh, and add a Kitten. TRUST ME ON THE KITTEN! Oh, and Trag over Gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335243602' post='5923845'] More backrow makes Inzektors happy. Also, you should throw in a Soldier. Makes going for rank 5's a bit easier. Oh, and add a Kitten. TRUST ME ON THE KITTEN! [/quote] 7 of 10 traps stop Inzektors, the remaining 3 provide outs to cards such as Solemn Warning and Torrential Tribute, as well as allowing me to make plays late game when I'm low on monsters. And why would I be setting an over-copious amount of backrows against Inzektors without outs to what they're doing anyway? Soldier is terrible. Kitten seems utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335243816' post='5923847'] 7 of 10 traps stop Inzektors, the remaining 3 provide outs to cards such as Solemn Warning and Torrential Tribute, as well as allowing me to make plays late game when I'm low on monsters. And why would I be setting an over-copious amount of backrows against Inzektors without outs to what they're doing anyway? Soldier is terrible. Kitten seems utterly useless. [/quote] Soldier helps with Rank 5's. Kitten saves your ass when you're in a tight spot. And I just realized you don't have a Pot of Avarice! D:< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335243966' post='5923850'] Soldier helps with Rank 5's. Kitten saves your ass when you're in a tight spot. And I just realized you don't have a Pot of Avarice! D:< [/quote] Why would I want Soldier when I have Shark though? s: It's absolutely shite and it's a dead card in a hand with any other monster. Kitten implies I'm on the backfoot, where I'd rather make Zenmaines than get a Zenmaity just to get Kitten. And yeah I forgot Avarice, just siding the BLS to make space for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335244169' post='5923853'] Why would I want Soldier when I have Shark though? s: It's absolutely shite and it's a dead card in a hand with any other monster. Kitten implies I'm on the backfoot, where I'd rather make Zenmaines than get a Zenmaity just to get Kitten. And yeah I forgot Avarice, just siding the BLS to make space for it. [/quote] BLS is better mained and Instant Fusion has never worked out for me. Soldier only works if your build enjoys hitting Rank 5's. As for Kitten, it's more of a personal touch, so I understand you not wanting to run it. But my God man! At least put a third Magician in! D:< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335245628' post='5923860'] BLS is better mained and Instant Fusion has never worked out for me. Soldier only works if your build enjoys hitting Rank 5's. As for Kitten, it's more of a personal touch, so I understand you not wanting to run it. But my God man! At least put a third Magician in! D:< [/quote] I have a whopping 2 Lights mained and really dislike making Brilliant unless pushing for game. BLS becomes a dead draw, I just forgot that Avarice could replace it. Evidently I'm not focusing on Rank 5s... Why would I want a 3rd Magician when it can clog stupidly easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335246040' post='5923864'] I have a whopping 2 Lights mained and really dislike making Brilliant unless pushing for game. BLS becomes a dead draw, I just forgot that Avarice could replace it. Evidently I'm not focusing on Rank 5s... Why would I want a 3rd Magician when it can clog stupidly easily? [/quote] In my opinion, BLS is one of those main it cards, or don't run it. As for Magician, I've never had three clog. Hell, the three Rats clog on me more than anything else. .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335246215' post='5923867'] In my opinion, BLS is one of those main it cards, or don't run it. As for Magician, I've never had three clog. Hell, the three Rats clog on me more than anything else. .-. [/quote] Rats do clog....I open at least 1 game per match with 2 rats....but its needed for le loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335246215' post='5923867'] In my opinion, BLS is one of those main it cards, or don't run it. As for Magician, I've never had three clog. Hell, the three Rats clog on me more than anything else. .-. [/quote] I'd rather side it in with the 3rd Veiler. Magician is the only card in the deck that can clog, along with Hunter. .-. Rat is a free Rank 3 when played right, which really isn't hard. It's not like the entire deck is focused on the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335252598' post='5923904'] I'd rather side it in with the 3rd Veiler. Magician is the only card in the deck that can clog, along with Hunter. .-. Rat is a free Rank 3 when played right, which really isn't hard. It's not like the entire deck is focused on the loop. [/quote] When you open double Rat and nothing else..its bad..very bad(speaking from personal experience as it seems Rat just LOVES me and comes to my hand in pairs). Magician with Shark is the best play the deck has as it nets you so much advantage if its not stopped, and I'm not just talking about herp derp loop...and even if you you already do stuff with the first 2, the 3rd Magician is still a free summon from your deck that you can do shenanigans with. Yes Rat is a free rank 3, but you never really want to open with it as you are forced to set combo pieces (worst case scenario) or hope to top deck something in order to make a play with it . If it was not for the loop, no one would really play 3 imo....it makes you so sad when it gets veiler/chained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335254276' post='5923908'] When you open double Rat and nothing else..its bad..very bad(speaking from personal experience as it seems Rat just LOVES me and comes to my hand in pairs). Magician with Shark is the best play the deck has as it nets you so much advantage if its not stopped, and I'm not just talking about herp derp loop. Yes Rat is a free rank 3, but you never really want to open with it as you are forced to set combo pieces (worst case scenario) or hope to top deck something in order to make a play with it . If it was not for the loop, no one would really play 3 imo....it makes you so sad when it gets veiler/chained. [/quote] I have 3 Tour Guides, a Sangan, 3 Sharks and 2 Rabbits. The odds of opening with Rat and it being entirely dead seems pretty bloody slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335254416' post='5923909'] I have 3 Tour Guides, a Sangan, 3 Sharks and 2 Rabbits. The odds of opening with Rat and it being entirely dead seems pretty bloody slim. [/quote] Guess its just my shitty luck...cuz it happens me way more than I would like. I still think the only reason for the 3 Rats is the loop...and after its hit next list...people are likely to cut rats to 2 and max Magician or add some cool tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335254416' post='5923909'] I have 3 Tour Guides, a Sangan, 3 Sharks and 2 Rabbits. The odds of opening with Rat and it being entirely dead seems pretty bloody slim. [/quote] In my real life build, I run 3 TGU, 1 Sangan, 3 Sharks, 3 Rabbits, 3 Magicians, 1 Soldier, and 1 Kitten. Believe it or not, I've opened up with only 2 rats in hand. The only thing that saved me was the Factory, 2 Fiendish Chains, and the Judgment that I had as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1335291480' post='5924102'] In my real life build, I run 3 TGU, 1 Sangan, 3 Sharks, 3 Rabbits, 3 Magicians, 1 Soldier, and 1 Kitten. Believe it or not, I've opened up with only 2 rats in hand. The only thing that saved me was the Factory, 2 Fiendish Chains, and the Judgment that I had as well. [/quote] Exactly...opening 2 Rats is common...and its such a shitty feeling when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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