EmpoleMew Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 3 Majoleine 3 Mille-Feille 3 Chouxvalier 1 Puddingcess 2 Guardian Eatos 2 Exodius 1 Dark Hole 1 Heavy Storm 1 Reborn 3 MST 1 Avarice 2 Benevolence 3 Duality 2 Terraforming 3 Madolce Château 2 Madolce Manner 2 Torrential 2 Bottomless 2 Reckless Greed 2 Ultimate Offering 1 No. 15 Giant Killer 1 No. 17 Revise 1 No. 20 Brilliant 1 No. 39 Hope 1 No. C39 Hope Ray 1 No. 40 Heaven's Strings 1 No. 50 Black Corn 1 Zenmaines 1 Leviair 1 Emeral 1 Lavalval Chain 1 Pearl 1 Muzumuzu Rythym 1 Maestroke 1 Gustaph Max 1 Buttlerusk 2 Mouple 2 D.D. Crow 2 Compulsory Evac 2 Compulsory Withdrawl 2 Teabreak 2 Chain Disappearance 2 Soul Release Eventually want to make this irl. Missing some of the cards, namely two more Dualities and most of the extra. Probably gonna drop Teabreak and Withdrawl for Shadow and Light Mirrors but otherwise, I believe this will be the final build unless REDU gets some TCG exclusive that radically breaks the deck. (Madolce Xyz, Konami?) Do yo thing YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiger Tracks Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Three things: 1. I understand Eatos has some good synergy with Madolches but if you're gonna run 2 Exodius and 2 Benevolence it's not worth it. I can understand 1 Exodius but that's it. 2. Why are you using Terraforming when you can use Buttlerusk, which is searchable and a +1 instead of one for one. 3. The monster line-up for Maldoches is as simple as 3 Majoleine, 2-3 Buttlerusk, 3 Card Car D, and 1-2 Puddingcess. Just use the pluses you get from those and some simplifying spells and traps and you should be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 To point 1: I'm not sure what you mean here. I'm trying to keep my graveyard as clean as possible, which opens up Eatos as an easily summonable beater. Double Exodius I'll concede seems like overkill, but I don't feel good running it at 1. To point 2: I've deliberated it for a while, and I find Terraforming to be preferable. I may not always have another Madolce out to get Buttlerusk's effect off, and once Terraforming's used, it's gone for good, eliminating another card from the deck I may draw when I don't want it. I still side it in the event of a mirror match, though. To point 3: I don't like Card Car here, since Puddingcess wants no monsters in the grave. Granted I have more than enough things to get it out of there, but Reckless gets me the same thing without giving up the rest of my turn. Plus, this is going to be irl and Card Car is bread. Might try it if Japanese copies are cheap. Also, Mille allows me to get out 'Cess without filling the grave when I don't want to, and gives access to Rank 3s. Choux is generally the biggest hitter, and protects a stray Mille or weakened 'Cess, which is why I go with those two in the deck. Can't really test changes atm but I'll take them into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Tracks Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 [quote] I'm not sure what you mean here. I'm trying to keep my graveyard as clean as possible, which opens up Eatos as an easily summonable beater. Double Exodius I'll concede seems like overkill, but I don't feel good running it at 1[/quote] I'm saying that Eatos is merely a beatstick hear. You have no good support it and it will be dead far too often. Exodius and Benevolence are wastes of space and do not support the Maldoche theme. Pot of Benevolence is a minus one and Exodius is a dead body just to empty your grave. They are of no help and there are better things to use. [quote]I've deliberated it for a while, and I find Terraforming to be preferable. I may not always have another Madolce out to get Buttlerusk's effect off, and once Terraforming's used, it's gone for good, eliminating another card from the deck I may draw when I don't want it. I still side it in the event of a mirror match, though.[/quote] It shouldn't be too hard to keep another Madolche on the field. Especially if you use simplifying spells and traps, by which I mean monster removal or stuff that keeps their cards off of the field. Madolches going back into the deck is a good thing. The goal is to always have a Majoleine in hand to toolbox for what you need. Additionally with the Madolche field spell all Madolche monster basically become T.G.s. Buttlerusk also searches for ANY field spell meaning you can Secret Village of the Spellcasters (Majoleine and Buttlerusk are spellcasters) you can really mess with your opponent. This also means you can slow down certain decks with customized field spells in your side (Necrovalley, etc.) tl;dr: Buttlerusk is better than terraforming because it's a +1 and because it goes back to the deck to start plussing again later. [quote]I don't like Card Car here, since Puddingcess wants no monsters in the grave. Granted I have more than enough things to get it out of there, but Reckless gets me the same thing without giving up the rest of my turn.[/quote] Puddingcess works even with monster in the grave - it just won't get an attack boost. Not that it matters because its effect will kill problem on site with it's effect. Since Puddingcess always gets rid of something it's attack means next to nothing. [quote]Also, Mille allows me to get out 'Cess without filling the grave when I don't want to, and gives access to Rank 3s. Choux is generally the biggest hitter, and protects a stray Mille or weakened 'Cess, which is why I go with those two in the deck.[/quote] The Mille and Puddingcess combo is situaltional at best and as I already stated Puddingcess's attack doens't really mater. If Mille had a way of producing advantage then the Rank 3 thing might be of some interest, but as it is minus 1 Xyz plays aren't what you want. Choux may have the highest attack of all Madolches (reliably) but it is still only has 1700 attack. There's not much he can run over that Majoleine can't. If he had another 100 or 200 more attack I'd say run him, but as he is now - 1700 atk with an irrelevant ability - he's not worth using. I understand getting a hold of a playset of Card Car may be a problem but it may be in your best interest. It's playable in many decks and could probably make a lot of decks you'd like to play better. At worst you could flip a playest for profit. I do like this deck. The concept is interesting and the monster are adorable. If you don't mind I would like to help you make this possible, understanding you want this IRL and there'd be budget restraints. This looks like it could turn into a fun stun deck and it'd be a fun collaboration, if you're willing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 A Madolce stun does seem interesting...I'll get around to comparing it to the current build eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/yST2z.jpg Bump for a probably terrible attempt at a "stun" build. I realized afterwards that I forgot Metaion but I don't know what to drop for it. The logic behind Zoma is that it's tribute fodder for Puddingcess but that's probably bad. I can't really test at the moment but help would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Doodle Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'd suggest to drop both villages to cut down to 40. It may seem good or fun on paper but I dont recall it beind more helpfull than necrovalley or even chateau :S and how are you going to rank 8 here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Starlight Road Stardust and Sin Stardust/situational reborn opponent's level 8. Just filling out the Extra really. I can drop the villages but I still need room for Metaion. I'm not opposed to dropping Book, but I'd also feel uncomfortable with just one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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