Airride Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmUCwcKqtI[/media] Just what I was listening to when building this. No idea how I found it. [img]http://i.imgur.com/PImcn.jpg[/img] Help with anything much appreciated. (Main, Side, or extra) While I spent like an hour making this, It's not perfect, I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'll obviously leave the actual fixes for Chris to do, as he is a self-proclaimed HERO expert, but for now: -1 Evocator +1 Bubbleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'll Test it. I like Chevalier because it can make nova master and food for spark, but bubble can make Zero and Xyz, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Bumping this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 No point in posting a new topic for this. Been testing nicely. Haven't had too many problems, but I might need to tweak it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Chris will tell you not to main Super Poly. Also, I don't like Bubbleman in regular HERO beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343280245' post='5989150']Also, I don't like Bubbleman in regular HERO beat.[/quote]Yeah, that was the main thing I was thinking of tweaking. Super Poly is nice. Not sure what to replace Bubbleman with. Maybe Chevalier or Crusader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343280245' post='5989150'] Chris will tell you not to main Super Poly. Also, I don't like Bubbleman in regular HERO beat. [/quote] He's running OCG Heroes with Escu... Why would I tell him not to main Super Poly? Drop Bubbleman for Crusader of Endymion, and the 2 Veilers and an E-Call for a second Hero Blast and either 2 Compulses or D-Prisons or Dark Bribes. (In no particular order, as all of them are really good.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Alright, Edited. Decided on Compulse scince It's chainable and stuff. I need to edit my side now, 1 Veiler is kind of out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 In no particular order: -2 Chain in side, put in the Bottomlesses +2 Lance in main -1 Crusader +1 Evocator -2 Crow, +2 Veiler in side -1 Something (Honest, Rai-oh, E-Call, Duality, whatever) +1 Super Poly (running OCG, no reason not to have at least 2 since you can target everything). In extra: -1 Nova Master -1 C39 +1 Blade Armor +1 Maestroke (unless your preferences bear out having C39, but it's been dead to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343315094' post='5989373'] He's running OCG Heroes with Escu... Why would I tell him not to main Super Poly? [/quote]Didn't notice that it wasn't TCG. MAH BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='b0b3rt' timestamp='1343323506' post='5989450'] In no particular order: -2 Chain in side, put in the Bottomlesses +2 Lance in main -1 Crusader +1 Evocator -2 Crow, +2 Veiler in side -1 Something (Honest, Rai-oh, E-Call, Duality, whatever) +1 Super Poly (running OCG, no reason not to have at least 2 since you can target everything). In extra: -1 Nova Master -1 C39 +1 Blade Armor +1 Maestroke (unless your preferences bear out having C39, but it's been dead to me). [/quote]Never been much of a Lance Guy. Mind explaining why I should main it? Also a Big fan of Chain Diss Since It deals with Rabbit/Inzektors/W-U pretty much instantly. Crusader/Evocator is a preference thing, really. k I'd rather Put my sided 1 into main. >Tells me to Put in Evocator >Tells me to take out Nova master ... Not a fan of blade armor here. I MIGHT do C39 -> Maestroke. I kind of like C39 :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Lance is good in Heroes because it allows you to interrupt plays, much like Spark, except for some different things. Chain Disappearance is good until you realize that Leviair exists. Sure, it's helpful, but you already have a great matchup against Dinorabbit and a decent one against Inzektors, and it's a bit iffy against wind-ups, since it depends on what they open with (and is entirely useless if you go second). I say Evocator because it allows you to bring out Nova Master without super poly, but when are you ever going to bring out 2 of them in any case? Shining is better most of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Crusader is better than Evocator. It's Light and Honest is a really good card. Hugely outweighs Evocator's Nova Master bonus since Shining is infinitely better. Lance is virtually useless in Hero Beat, Spark does everything you want it to and you can already out-match their removal. Chain Dis has never been good in the current format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343351388' post='5989773']Chain Dis has never been good in the current format.[/quote]...Fine :< Edited and shtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorKingA Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Initial thoughts: 1. No Bubbleman? 2. Why Endymion over Chevalier? 3. Only 2 E-Emergency Calls? 4. Skill Drain? How well does this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='TerrorKingA' timestamp='1343385812' post='5990091'] Initial thoughts: 1. No Bubbleman? 2. Why Endymion over Chevalier? 3. Only 2 E-Emergency Calls? 4. Skill Drain? How well does this work? [/quote] Someone needs to make a Chris signal. ...But he was already in the thread anyway. So, basically my eyes are on fire because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='TerrorKingA' timestamp='1343385812' post='5990091'] Initial thoughts: 1. No Bubbleman? 2. Why Endymion over Chevalier? 3. Only 2 E-Emergency Calls? 4. Skill Drain? How well does this work? [/quote] Bubbleman is a different decktype. Endymion can bluff and use Honest, while making Shining which is better than Nova Master. Deck only needs 2 E-Calls since it only has 4 E-Heroes anyway. Have you never heard of Hero Beat? Yeah, it runs Drain this format. o: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorKingA Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343399968' post='5990180'] Bubbleman is a different decktype. Endymion can bluff and use Honest, while making Shining which is better than Nova Master. Deck only needs 2 E-Calls since it only has 4 E-Heroes anyway. Have you never heard of Hero Beat? Yeah, it runs Drain this format. o: [/quote] Note to self: shoehorn in emotes to seem less confrontational. 1. Hero Beat, which abuses the hell out of Alius. [img]http://www.narutoforums.com/images/smilies/series2/smoke0aq.gif[/img] 2. Endymion is wholly unneeded. Chevalier being a Warrior and a Gemini trumps Endymion in this Deck. Gandiva + the "set 5 end" playstyle of HERO Beat > that one time you manage to have Honest in-hand and Endymion on the field. 3. Why run 3 Terraforming in a Deck that only uses 3 copies of 1 Field Spell? To speed up the Deck. I see your point in this case though, since Stratos and RotA. 4. Admittedly, I've never used HERO Beat, so I was a bit confused by Skill Drain.[img]http://www.narutoforums.com/images/smilies/series3/ano.gif[/img] Also, there's a reason I said "Initial thoughts" and then asked how well it runs, rather than making any suggestions. [img]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/distr2.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='TerrorKingA' timestamp='1343411727' post='5990307'] 2. Endymion is wholly unneeded. Chevalier being a Warrior and a Gemini trumps Endymion in this Deck. Gandiva + the "set 5 end" playstyle of HERO Beat > that one time you manage to have Honest in-hand and Endymion on the field. [/quote] Crusader is also a gemini monster... meaning, it gets used with Spark. The deck also then has potentially 7 honest targets. And the Shinning is much better than Nova master which Evocater opens up for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Honest bluff is stupid, not a single Hero Beat deck that I've played against ran Honest and nobody will even think of it before ramming into Crusader. And actually you have 11 targets, not 6 (3 Shining, Utopia, Photon). Also, you already have plenty of targets for Shining, the idea that you won't be able to make Shining because you [i]didn't[/i] run Crusader is ridiculous, I've never had a problem bringing him out with Bubblebeat and I only have 3 Alius, not 3 Alius and 3 Rai-oh (and Honest). On the other hand, Evocator opens up Nova Master plays, which is not spectacularly useful but I feel it's worth it to have the option for an instant +1 rather than having another Honest/Shining target, as if you don't have enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 It's funny, you will actually use Honest with Endymion more than you'll make Nova Master or even so much as search for Evocator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 [quote name='b0b3rt' timestamp='1343419435' post='5990413']Honest bluff is stupid, not a single Hero Beat deck that I've played against ran Honest and nobody will even think of it before ramming into Crusader. And actually you have 11 targets, not 6 (3 Shining, Utopia, Photon). Also, you already have plenty of targets for Shining, the idea that you won't be able to make Shining because you [i]didn't[/i] run Crusader is ridiculous, I've never had a problem bringing him out with Bubblebeat and I only have 3 Alius, not 3 Alius and 3 Rai-oh (and Honest). On the other hand, Evocator opens up Nova Master plays, which is not spectacularly useful but I feel it's worth it to have the option for an instant +1 rather than having another Honest/Shining target, as if you don't have enough already.[/quote]You must have been playing bad players, as EVERY HERO beat I've seen/Played Vs has had honest. Also I'd rather save my Novas for dealing with Evolzars/Zenmaines. I like chevalier, but it's meh, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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