White Night Dragon needs an ultimate form too...

[Zextra]

[center]First of all, please excuse me if I made some balance issues or card errors - I have been out of cardmaking for quite a while...[/center]
[center]Anyway, it's too bad that White Night Dragon is often overlooked due to its more popular (and usable) counterparts, Blue-Eyes White Dragon and Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon. When I thought about how Blue-Eyes had Blue-Eyes Ultimate and Galaxy-Eyes had Neo Galaxy-Eyes, I just had to create something of the sort for White Night Dragon.[/center]

[center][img]http://i45.tinypic.com/ivea1s.png[/img][/center]

[center][i][b]Lore:[/b][/i][/center]
[center][i][b]3 Level 8 monsters[/b][/i][/center]
[center][i][b]If “White Night Dragon” is used as one of this card’s Xyz Materials: You can Xyz Summon this card using 2 Level 8 monsters instead. This card cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. When this card would be destroyed: You can Tribute 1 monster instead. When this card destroys a monster by battle: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and target 1 card on the field; return that target to its owner’s hand.[/b][/i][/center]

[center]Image credit goes to Lightray Daedalus[/center]

[center]Suggestions and constructive criticism are appreciated.[/center]
[center]Thanks![/center]

[Zextra]

Meow :3

[ekko1990]

Considering White Night Dragon's regular effect, I'd suggest the following change to its effect (basically changed the detach effect and corrected some text).

[i][b][font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#5a5a5a"][size=3]If this card is XYZ Summoned using "White Night Dragon", you can Xyz Summon this card using 2 Level 8 monsters instead. This card cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. If this card would be destroyed, you can Tribute 1 monster instead. During your opponent's Battle Phase: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and target 1 face-up Attack Position on the field; That monster must attack this card if able.[/size][/color][/font][/b][/i]

[Zextra]

[quote name='ekko1990' timestamp='1339339073' post='5954873']
Considering White Night Dragon's regular effect, I'd suggest the following change to its effect (basically changed the detach effect and corrected some text).

[i][b][font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#5a5a5a"][size=3]If this card is XYZ Summoned using "White Night Dragon", you can Xyz Summon this card using 2 Level 8 monsters instead. This card cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. If this card would be destroyed, you can Tribute 1 monster instead. During your opponent's Battle Phase: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and target 1 face-up Attack Position on the field; That monster must attack this card if able.[/size][/color][/font][/b][/i]
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Actually, when I was making the card, I did consider that exact effect. But I decided against it due to how useless it really is. Keep in mind that your opponent is not required to enter his or her Battle Phase, so naturally, unless he or she has a monster that can run over this, your opponent would not even bother, making the effect rather pointless.

[Retroninja15]

its good.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1339349702' post='5954974']
its good.
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A totally constructive and non-spammy post, eh?

OT: Quite amazing card design. It's basically what NGPD was supposed to be, but wasn't. Let's look at what it does:

First of all, it's hella easy to summon. The fact it can be brought out with just 2 Level 8 monsters if the conditions are met makes it completely different from NGPD. Given White Night Dragon itself is easy to summon given its Type, it's easy to say that this can be brought out consistently.

But this isn't just that. 3600 ATK gurantees immortality in battle, and it can't be targette. Finally, it's even got a Six Samurai clause - meaning you can only use a limited number of resources such as Dark Hole and Torrential Tribute (or the Solemn Trio) to kill this. That's something worth summoning.

The final effect is interesting, too. It's not as shiny as the other effects, but it's certainly useful. It can get rid of possible Extra-Deck shenanigans and such.

Overall, I say this is one of the nicest cards I've seen recently. Made for casual, but not underpowered. The best type of card design.

[Zextra]

[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1339404700' post='5955289']
OT: Quite amazing card design. It's basically what NGPD was supposed to be, but wasn't. Let's look at what it does:

First of all, it's hella easy to summon. The fact it can be brought out with just 2 Level 8 monsters if the conditions are met makes it completely different from NGPD. Given White Night Dragon itself is easy to summon given its Type, it's easy to say that this can be brought out consistently.

But this isn't just that. 3600 ATK gurantees immortality in battle, and it can't be targette. Finally, it's even got a Six Samurai clause - meaning you can only use a limited number of resources such as Dark Hole and Torrential Tribute (or the Solemn Trio) to kill this. That's something worth summoning.

The final effect is interesting, too. It's not as shiny as the other effects, but it's certainly useful. It can get rid of possible Extra-Deck shenanigans and such.

Overall, I say this is one of the nicest cards I've seen recently. Made for casual, but not underpowered. The best type of card design.
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Yeah, my intention while making the card was to upgrade White Night Dragon's effect while keeping the card usable, so I'm glad I was able to accomplish that.
I appreciate your in-depth analysis and review very much, and I'm glad you like the card - it's not often that my topics get actual responses. :3

[Master White]

Meh, love the idea, just not monster reborn spammable even though its proly illegal again, not sure, been out of the game for quite awhile. But I absolutely love the picture, which made me want to comment on this card. Its really well done for it to be an XYZ and IMO it could be like one of those cards with an requirement, but meh, your choice not mine, I love the idea and great job Zextra, hope you will continue in your great card quest.


Well, great job. I proly won't come back often, rare visit from me, internet avoiding don't work when you like to talk to people, robots, or something other then yourself and animals.......

[Mr. guy]

Have the protection effect only apply when it has xyz materials and it will be se magnifique

*The first one, where it can't be targetted.

[ekko1990]

Yeah, that would actually be a good idea in this case.

@Zextra

Well, the reason I thought of the effect change was because this card survive non targeting destruction because of the other monsters you have, so your opponent could just summon a monster, attack your other monster and proceed to Hammer Shot this card. If this card had the suggested effect, your opponent wouldn't think about doing that in addition to that you could force your opponent to attack with cards like battle mania and all out attack.
And of course the fact that the last effect doesn't fit the monster in any way.

However, else, the card is really thought out and has balanced stats and abilities to how difficult it is to use. In addition, it also rewards decks who specialize on it.

[Zextra]

Thanks for justifying your input.
Yes, I did think about cards such as Smashing Ground, but even though the attack magnet is a more fitting effect due to White Night Dragon having a similar effect, I just don't find it at useful as the bounce effect. Sure this card's bounce isn't as fast or usable as, say, Brionac's, but it's a good tool to return troublesome cards such as Zenmaines or Xenoform. Finally, though there are cards such as Battle Mania that would force your opponent into attacking, they are very rarely, if ever used.
But of course those are just my thoughts, and everyone has a different opinion.

[Zextra]

Meow :3

[Zextra]

Bump

[Sckorpio]

Very intresting but could use a bit more work
7/10

[Zextra]

[quote name='sckorpio' timestamp='1340050184' post='5958840']
Very intresting but could use a bit more work
7/10
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While I appreciate that you commented, this kind of comment is looked down upon. First of all, it breaks the advanced clause. Also, it has no worthwhile content - you stated that it was interesting but it could use more work. You have support for neither of these claims - when making a comment such as this, it is important to make your suggestions and criticism constructive. Instead, we have a short note saying that this card needs work - how so? Of course there are flaws in nearly every card, but I would appreciate it more if you actually explained how to fix the card (or in your terms, work on it a bit more).

[Zextra]

Bump?

[Legiit]

If this card was on the field including 4 other monsters on your side of the field, this card would be unstoppable. I really like this card, YOUR OCG is perfect, outstanding, the picture and title are amazing and fit perfectly, and I would rate this 10/10 and would love this card in my deck, good work Zextra. AND i dont know if you remember me, but we used to be buddys on this site in 2010, nd im back now

[Retroninja15]

[quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1340074909' post='5959021']
While I appreciate that you commented, this kind of comment is looked down upon. First of all, it breaks the advanced clause. Also, it has no worthwhile content - you stated that it was interesting but it could use more work. You have support for neither of these claims - when making a comment such as this, it is important to make your suggestions and criticism constructive. Instead, we have a short note saying that this card needs work - how so? Of course there are flaws in nearly every card, but I would appreciate it more if you actually explained how to fix the card (or in your terms, work on it a bit more).
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Excuse me?What advanced clause?Obviously,you read it wrong.He did state,"but could use a bit more work".Meaning,just change EVERYTHING.I'm getting tired of teaching the ignorant.Anyway,since we both stated both mistakes..

White Night Dragon: (The original)

Effect:You may negate the activation of any Spell/Trap Card that targets this card, and destroy that card. When a face-up monster you control is selected as an attack target, you can send 1 Spell or Trap Card you control to the Graveyard to change the target to this card.

Atk:3000

Def:2500

Now to review your card:

Picture:Since,White Night Dragon has one head,why 3?But I understand for whatever your reason or even if you don't have a reason.

Name:White Borealis Dragon?Alright.I really don't think it should be named,"Borealis."

Xyz Material:3 level 8 monsters?That would explain the 3 heads..But this really don't seem like an xyz monster,more like a fusion.Just like the Blue-eye white dragon in fusion form,it needs 3 Blue-eyes.I really don't think this would work out.Change it to 2 level 8 monsters.

Effect:[b][i]If “White Night Dragon” is used as one of this card’s Xyz Materials: (1st) You can Xyz Summon this card using 2 Level 8 monsters instead. (2nd) This card cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. (3rd) When this card would be destroyed: You can Tribute 1 monster instead. (4th) When this card destroys a monster by battle: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and target 1 card on the field; return that target to its owner’s hand.[/i][/b]

As what Sckorpio stated,change everything.Cross out the 1st effect and change it to:

[i][b]1st:This card must be Xyz summon by using at least one "White Night Dragon" as the Xyz material.[/b][/i]

The second one should be cross out.No reason ask.

Now that the 2nd effect is cross out..the 3rd effect can be fair.However,i do THINK you should observe the original White Night dragon effect.So cross out the 3rd effect as well.

[b][i]2nd:When this card is Xyz summon,your opponents must send all his/her spell/trap cards from his/her hand to the graveyard.Draw 1 card for each spell/trap cards sent to the graveyard.[/i][/b]

[b][i]3rd:During either player turn,you can detach one xyz material from this card;your opponent cannot use spell/trap or activate cards effect this turn.[/i][/b]

Atk and Def:3500 Atk and 2800 Def.


Now,your welcome.But if you still think 3 level 8 monsters are better,than i won't argue. 2 level 8 monsters or 3 level 8 monsters,your choice.

[Zextra]

[quote name='Legiit' timestamp='1340216386' post='5959943']
If this card was on the field including 4 other monsters on your side of the field, this card would be unstoppable. I really like this card, YOUR OCG is perfect, outstanding, the picture and title are amazing and fit perfectly, and I would rate this 10/10 and would love this card in my deck, good work Zextra. AND i dont know if you remember me, but we used to be buddys on this site in 2010, nd im back now
[/quote]
Ah yes, of course I remember you! It's good to see you and thanks for commenting. Do you have any tips or suggestions? :3

Now, I apologize if I sound rude or harsh in this post.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Excuse me?What advanced clause?Obviously,you read it wrong.He did state,"but could use a bit more work".Meaning,just change EVERYTHING.I'm getting tired of teaching the ignorant.Anyway,since we both stated both mistakes..
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If you'd been paying any attention to this forum, you'd know that there [b]was[/b] a rule that was created to stop the number of spammy and non-constructive posts. Obviously, it didn't work, looking at most posts in RC. By now, we all know that Koko had put a stop to it earlier today since she's stepping down as a mod - nevertheless, if you had checked the date that I posted that response, the Advanced Clause was still in effect.

Now, regarding your statement about sckorpio's post - he didn't explain any of his reasoning or thoughts, so how was I know what to change? Did he mention to "change everything"? Obviously not - otherwise it would be in the post. "Could use a bit of work" could refer to lots of things - for example, cosmetic details on the card, one aspect that would unbalance the card, etc.

Also, teaching the ignorant? How is not immediately assuming that "needs a bit more work" means "redo the card" being ignorant?
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
White Night Dragon: (The original)

Effect:You may negate the activation of any Spell/Trap Card that targets this card, and destroy that card. When a face-up monster you control is selected as an attack target, you can send 1 Spell or Trap Card you control to the Graveyard to change the target to this card.

Atk:3000

Def:2500

Now to review your card:

Picture:Since,White Night Dragon has one head,why 3?But I understand for whatever your reason or even if you don't have a reason.
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This was designed to be an "ultimate form" for White Night Dragon, like Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon were to their original forms, as stated in both the title and the opening post.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Name:White Borealis Dragon?Alright.I really don't think it should be named,"Borealis."
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Do you know what Borealis means? Of course there's Aurora Borealis, but in this case, I was referring to how it pertains to the north wind. Since White Night Dragon is, well, an ice dragon, having it relate to the north wind seems fitting, no? That was just a bit of creativity from my part.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Xyz Material:3 level 8 monsters?That would explain the 3 heads..But this really don't seem like an xyz monster,more like a fusion.Just like the Blue-eye white dragon in fusion form,it needs 3 Blue-eyes.I really don't think this would work out.Change it to 2 level 8 monsters.
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Have you seen Neo Galaxy-Eyes? It's an Xyz, why can't this be? Also, as a fusion, this card would be simply unplayable - nobody in their right minds would go for this over Five-Headed Dragon. As for the summoning conditions being 3 Level 8 monsters, I don't intend to change that - this is arguably superior to all other 2 Material Rank 8 Xyzs, and it would be considered broken should it be that easy to summon.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Effect:[b][i]If “White Night Dragon” is used as one of this card’s Xyz Materials: (1st) You can Xyz Summon this card using 2 Level 8 monsters instead. (2nd) This card cannot be targeted by your opponent’s card effects. (3rd) When this card would be destroyed: You can Tribute 1 monster instead. (4th) When this card destroys a monster by battle: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and target 1 card on the field; return that target to its owner’s hand.[/i][/b]

As what Sckorpio stated,change everything.Cross out the 1st effect and change it to:

[i][b]1st:This card must be Xyz summon by using at least one "White Night Dragon" as the Xyz material.[/b][/i]
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Having White Night being a required material doesn't do it any good. I don't see a problem leaving it generic.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
The second one should be cross out.No reason ask.
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Why would I get rid of that effect? There's nothing that's particularly broken about it. Plus, it's an upgrade from White Night Dragon's effect.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Now that the 2nd effect is cross out..the 3rd effect can be fair.However,i do THINK you should observe the original White Night dragon effect.So cross out the 3rd effect as well.

[b][i]2nd:When this card is Xyz summon,your opponents must send all his/her spell/trap cards from his/her hand to the graveyard.Draw 1 card for each spell/trap cards sent to the graveyard.[/i][/b]
[b][i][/quote][/i][/b]
This effect would be far too reliant on luck. Its effectiveness would range from pointless to broken - that's not good card design.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
[b][i]3rd:During either player turn,you can detach one xyz material from this card;your opponent cannot use spell/trap or activate cards effect this turn.[/i][/b]

Atk and Def:3500 Atk and 2800 Def.
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Um...do you know why Cold Wave is banned? Yeah, having 2 (or possibly 3) free, one-sided Cold Waves is definitely great card design.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340222958' post='5959990']
Now,your welcome.But if you still think 3 level 8 monsters are better,than i won't argue. 2 level 8 monsters or 3 level 8 monsters,your choice.
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Regardless of what I posted here, I appreciate your suggestions. Even if I may not agree with them, it's a step up from "its okay 6/10; not bad, etc."

[Love of Ghibli]

[quote name='Zextra' timestamp='1340251908' post='5960211']
Ah yes, of course I remember you! It's good to see you and thanks for commenting. Do you have any tips or suggestions? :3

Now, I apologize if I sound rude or harsh in this post.

If you'd been paying any attention to this forum, you'd know that there [b]was[/b] a rule that was created to stop the number of spammy and non-constructive posts. Obviously, it didn't work, looking at most posts in RC. By now, we all know that Koko had put a stop to it earlier today since she's stepping down as a mod - nevertheless, if you had checked the date that I posted that response, the Advanced Clause was still in effect.

Now, regarding your statement about sckorpio's post - he didn't explain any of his reasoning or thoughts, so how was I know what to change? Did he mention to "change everything"? Obviously not - otherwise it would be in the post. "Could use a bit of work" could refer to lots of things - for example, cosmetic details on the card, one aspect that would unbalance the card, etc.

Also, teaching the ignorant? How is not immediately assuming that "needs a bit more work" means "redo the card" being ignorant?

This was designed to be an "ultimate form" for White Night Dragon, like Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon were to their original forms, as stated in both the title and the opening post.

Do you know what Borealis means? Of course there's Aurora Borealis, but in this case, I was referring to how it pertains to the north wind. Since White Night Dragon is, well, an ice dragon, having it relate to the north wind seems fitting, no? That was just a bit of creativity from my part.

Have you seen Neo Galaxy-Eyes? It's an Xyz, why can't this be? Also, as a fusion, this card would be simply unplayable - nobody in their right minds would go for this over Five-Headed Dragon. As for the summoning conditions being 3 Level 8 monsters, I don't intend to change that - this is arguably superior to all other 2 Material Rank 8 Xyzs, and it would be considered broken should it be that easy to summon.
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Having White Night being a required material doesn't do it any good. I don't see a problem leaving it generic.

Why would I get rid of that effect? There's nothing that's particularly broken about it. Plus, it's an upgrade from White Night Dragon's effect.
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This effect would be far too reliant on luck. Its effectiveness would range from pointless to broken - that's not good card design.

Um...do you know why Cold Wave is banned? Yeah, having 2 (or possibly 3) free, one-sided Cold Waves is definitely great card design.

Regardless of what I posted here, I appreciate your suggestions. Even if I may not agree with them, it's a step up from "its okay 6/10; not bad, etc."
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I am so sorry that you wasted such time on educating fools who are not worthy of such attention, this level of blatant trollness it is not reflective of RC as a whole.

On to the card itself.

I never commented originally because it didn't have any flaws to point out and people had already said how great it was but lets just repeat greatness.

Its picture is great because that is what we do in Yu-Gi-Oh when a dragon has an ultimate form we give it 3 heads or make it require 3 monsters (Blue Ultimate, Neo-Galaxy, Red Nova, all are three monsters together some how) so great. Congratulations on also not finding a cliche' name because Neo and Ultimate were pretty cliche' in my opinion. Sad such thought is wasted.

As for the effect it is a total nod to one of White Night's effects so its pretty decent. I wish there was a way to add some protection from S/T without making it broken but the only way I would suggest that is if you added a protection eff if White Night is a material but then that breaks the card since you can overlay for 2 instead of 3 if White Night is a material. I am not totally sure why the detaching effect is a conditional effect unless its purpose is that you can get it done in the damage step (don't actually know if that is how it works) which means its hard to get around.

All in all it is an excellent card that could exist if anyone in Konami cared about anything from the GX series other than Heroes

[Cherz]

S/t protection, heavy and mst got that down lol

As for the card. Amazing. I see absolutly no flaws in the ocg and/lore. Can be pulled out with any deck, but in its own deck, way more easy to pull. Holy mirror gate background :3. As for the effect, maybe detach to destroy over bounce? I feel bouncing is a bit weak. But thats imo, witch isnt verry good. Being imune to most s/t akes it worth the summon, and with such a high attack, it is all good. This card makes me want to build an ice deck. KONAMI, print this. Im not even kidding, send this to konami right now. STAT!

[Zextra]

Thank you both for your comments and compliments. :3

@ Beginning - When I first finished the card, I was a little skeptical about its protection as well - After all, it's vulnerable to Dark Hole, TT, Mirror Force and even Smashing (assuming you don't have another monster). But since, in most cases, it would be summoned using White Night Dragon as a 2 Material Xyz (and that no other 2 Material Rank 8 has any type of protection), it would seem to be going overboard to provide additional protection, especially since getting it out using White Night Dragon isn't exactly hard due to REDMD.

@ Cherry - I still don't know exactly what prompted me to add a bounce effect to him, but I think I was concerned about Zenmaines (or I might have simply been thinking about wind), but frankly, that's a poor excuse since this can't even be targeted by Zenmaines' destruction effect.

[Retroninja15]

Either way,your card is broken.Just look how useful it can be for a Hieratic deck.

Sorry,but if you still think your card is best,then... 3/10.

Just look at the other Xyz monster,it doesn't include that much effect.Also cold-wave is banned because it's effect is easy and faster to use.My idea was not.All your answer were invalid,and it would be wasteful to explain.

...then again..you need help,so ill explain it anyway.


[This was designed to be an "ultimate form" for White Night Dragon, like Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon were to their original forms, as stated in both the title and the opening post.]

Thanks for telling me.But it won't really change anything.

[Do you know what Borealis means? Of course there's Aurora Borealis, but in this case, I was referring to how it pertains to the north wind. Since White Night Dragon is, well, an ice dragon, having it relate to the north wind seems fitting, no? That was just a bit of creativity from my part.]

I know.I'm not forcing you to change it.

[Have you seen Neo Galaxy-Eyes? It's an Xyz, why can't this be? Also, as a fusion, this card would be simply unplayable - nobody in their right minds would go for this over Five-Headed Dragon. As for the summoning conditions being 3 Level 8 monsters, I don't intend to change that - this is arguably superior to all other 2 Material Rank 8 Xyzs, and it would be considered broken should it be that easy to summon.]

Because Neo Galaxy-Eyes is base on the "xyz time line".Of course the anime series wouldn't let that guy from Zexal to magically get his hand on polymenizer and fuse a fusion monster.It just won't happen.So that's the reason. ... HaHa... Yes they would.Just look at people who fuse 3 Blue-Eyes.But if that fusion was to have an effect,that would be fun. 3 or 2 White Night Dragon fusion? Also,your too confident for power,Five-Headed dragon can be destroyed easily. For the 3 Level 8 monster agruement,I don't think that would be broken.But if you want,don't change it.

[Having White Night being a required material doesn't do it any good. I don't see a problem leaving it generic.]

Yes it would.That way it wouldn't be a Heiratic OTK,which you failed to recognize.You really need to think before making.

[Why would I get rid of that effect? There's nothing that's particularly broken about it. Plus, it's an upgrade from White Night Dragon's effect.]

Because it is.There's no level 8 monster with such effect.It's also unessary to add such effect.And your even giving this card an OTK boost.

[This effect would be far too reliant on luck. Its effectiveness would range from pointless to broken - that's not good card design.]

Not broken.It only activate when it's Xyz summon.Other summon are a no.But if you want,you can change it effect to:

[b][i]When this card is Xyz summon,your opponents must send all his/her spell/trap cards from his/her hand to the graveyard.This card gains 200 atk and def for each spell/trap cards sent to the graveyard.[/i][/b]

or make it a draw effect,your choice.It's still not broken.

[Um...do you know why Cold Wave is banned? Yeah, having 2 (or possibly 3) free, one-sided Cold Waves is definitely great card design.]

Cold-wave is banned because it's effect can be activated faster;As I already mention.But i did made a mistake.Can you be a dear and ignore the last effect:

During either player turn,you can detach one xyz material from this card;your opponent cannot activate spell/trap cards this turn. [s]or activate cards effect this turn.[/s]

It may be too much.So I fixed it.

Additional effect:When this card is destroy by a card effect,you can special summon one "White Night Dragon" from your graveyard to your side of the field.

^ I wouldn't add that,but you seem like an OTK player.

[Zextra]

[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Either way,your card is broken.Just look how useful it can be for a Hieratic deck.
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Absolutely useless - that's how useful it is in Hieratics. If you're looking at a Rank 8 card in Hieratics, you don't know how to play them.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Sorry,but if you still think your card is best,then... 3/10.
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Did I say it was the best? Nope - I just stated that it's better-designed as is than it would be with your changes.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Because Neo Galaxy-Eyes is base on the "xyz time line".Of course the anime series wouldn't let that guy from Zexal to magically get his hand on polymenizer and fuse a fusion monster.It just won't happen.So that's the reason. ... HaHa... Yes they would.Just look at people who fuse 3 Blue-Eyes.But if that fusion was to have an effect,that would be fun. 3 or 2 White Night Dragon fusion? Also,your too confident for power,Five-Headed dragon can be destroyed easily. For the 3 Level 8 monster agruement,I don't think that would be broken.But if you want,don't change it.
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Except he did, and he's used it too. Ever heard of Twin Photon Lizard? And do you know why Five-Headed Dragon is used? Because you can dump any 5 dragons to the grave, allowing for easy setup for an OTK.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Yes it would.That way it wouldn't be a Heiratic OTK,which you failed to recognize.You really need to think before making.
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No, Hieratics do not need this whatsoever. They already have an OTK, and as I mentioned before, no good Hieratic deck will be using Rank 8s.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Because it is.There's no level 8 monster with such effect.It's also unessary to add such effect.And your even giving this card an OTK boost.
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Except it's not an OTK card and there's no reason it would be. And [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cannot_be_targeted_by_card_effects"]here[/url] is a list of cards whose effects involve being unable to be targeted. Furthermore, as I stated before, it's just an upgrade from White Night Dragon's effect, the only real difference being that this can't be targeted by monster effects either, but that honestly isn't very gamebreaking.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Not broken.It only activate when it's Xyz summon.Other summon are a no.But if you want,you can change it effect to:

[b][i]When this card is Xyz summon,your opponents must send all his/her spell/trap cards from his/her hand to the graveyard.This card gains 200 atk and def for each spell/trap cards sent to the graveyard.[/i][/b]

or make it a draw effect,your choice.It's still not broken.
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I said its usability [i]ranges[/i] from pointless [i]to[/i] broken. It has the potential to get rid of Reborns, Dark Holes, and other such cards that your opponent may be trying to save, but it also has a strong probability of hitting nothing. Therefore, the card is reliant on your opponent and would therefore be situational and badly designed.
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Cold-wave is banned because it's effect can be activated faster;As I already mention.But i did made a mistake.Can you be a dear and ignore the last effect:

During either player turn,you can detach one xyz material from this card;your opponent cannot activate spell/trap cards this turn. [s]or activate cards effect this turn.[/s]

It may be too much.So I fixed it.
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Sorry to say, but adding an effect such as this will make it an OTK card. And it still doesn't change the fact that it's 2-3 free Cold Waves. Locking down all your opponent's S/T for 2 turns isn't exactly balanced, is it?
[quote name='Retroninja15' timestamp='1340318701' post='5960572']
Additional effect:When this card is destroy by a card effect,you can special summon one "White Night Dragon" from your graveyard to your side of the field.

^ I wouldn't add that,but you seem like an OTK player.
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Apparently you're judging me as a player based on how you think this card is an OTK card, which it isn't. Of course I'm not adding something like that.

[Zextra]

Well, after all the commotion that's happened here, it may be a bad move on my part, but I'm bumping this again.