Medivh Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Ok. Here's the deal. There are 16 characters. Each Anime or Video game will have 2 characters each, with the exception of Bleach and God of War (Who only have Ichigo and Kratos, respectively). This is a four round bracket tournament. Wiki articles for each combatant will be provided during battles between combatants. Let's gooo~ Character List: [b]ONE PIECE[/b] 1. [s]Monkey D. Luffy [/s] 2. Dracule "Hawk-Eyes" Mihawk [b]SONIC THE HEDGEHOG[/b] 3. Sonic The Hedgehog 4. Shadow the Hedgehog [b]FAIRY TAIL[/b] 5. Natsu Dragneel 6. Gildartz [b]GOD OF WAR[/b] 7. Kratos (Battling: [url="http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos"]Wiki Article[/url]) [b]BLEACH[/b] 8. Ichigo [b]SUPER MARIO BROS[/b] 9. Dimentio 10. Luigi Mario [b]STREET FIGHTER[/b] 11. Ryu 12. Guile [b]MORTAL COMBAT[/b] 13. Scorpion (Battling: [url="http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion"]Wiki Article[/url]) 14. Noob [b]KINGDOM HEARTS[/b] 15. Sora 16. Xemnas Let the games.... [center][size=7][color=#FF0000]BEGIN![/color][/size][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Are we giving sonic Chaos Emeralds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 So how is this a fair fight then lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 This is Luffy after the Timeskip. For shits and giggles, let's say Sonic only has about 60 rings. Whenever he decides to go Super Sonic, he only has about a minute. So he has a minute to beat the living daylights out of Luffy, who's sustained longer and harder beatings than Super Sonic could dish out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you give Sonic Chaos Control then Luffy would end up in space and die. That doesn't take a full minute lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Super Sonic moves at light speed and can throw Luffy into Outer Space. GAME! Oh, and way to pick people from the various series that have the same powers. Sonic and Shadow are only marginally different, no different with Super forms, Mario and Luigi differ only in traction, and Roxas is literally only part of Sora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 That's what [url="http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki"]Kenbunshoku Haki [/url]is for. Luffy can predict where Super Sonic's going to go and dodge almost [i]anything.[/i] And with [url="http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki"]Haoshoku Hak[/url]i, Luffy can scare the hell out of Super Sonic. All he has to do is keep up either of these things for one minute and wait for Super Sonic to revert to normal Sonic, then Second Gear (Which has no limit compared to Super Sonic, allows Luffy to move as fast, if not faster, than normal Sonic, and only weakens Luffy for a few seconds after using it after the Timeskip) and Gomu Gomu no Jet anything Sonic. GAME! Wasn't really thinking when I made the list. Sorry. Shadow and Sonic are different enough (Shadow with the normal form Chaos powers and stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Knowing what an opponent is going to do is not the same as being able to stop them. If Luffy is only super sonic (i.e. faster than sound) at maximum power, there's no way he's going to be able to dodge anything at light speed, even if he can see it coming from 25,000 miles away. Also, Sonic is extremely strong willed, so I don't think (especially in Super form) that he will be easy to dominate. For the brackets, I suggest someone like Xemnas or maybe Riku, if you want to stick with heroes, for Kingdom Hearts, because they have stuff Sora doesn't. As for Mario, maybe...Dimentio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 It doesn't matter if he's strong willed. Being weak willed only applies to a large group of people. Besides, I'd say Luffy is stronger willed than Sonic. -Points to fight with Don Kreig, Arlong, countless others- Second Gear also isn't max power for Luffy. He can, in theory, combine both Second and Third gears. Gomu Gomu no Gigant Jet Pistol! Changes sound great, BTW. I'll make them. Also, I'm changing Zoro to Dracule Mihawk so we can have someone that's on par with Ichigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Luffy needs a lot more speed than you suggested he had, though. In order to evade Super Sonic, he needs to be able to move at least at a significant percentage of light speed. Even 100x Sonic's normal top speed is .01% of Super Sonic's top speed. I've not really watched One Piece, but unless these "Gears" of Luffy's can warp spacetime, there's simply no way he can evade Super Sonic, and definitely no way he can hurt him. It sounds like regular Sonic would lose, but Super Sonic would win in (literally) less than 1 second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Speed isn't the point. If Luffy can dominate Super Sonic's will with Haki (Which is indeed possible) Super Sonic wouldn't be able to move [i]at all. [/i] Also, according to the Wiki article, Super Sonic isn't completely invincible. If Luffy hit him with both Second and Third Gears combined, he would be able to hurt Super Sonic. Anyhow, Second Gear allows Luffy to move fast enough that he can't be seen. Luffy vanishes with Gear Second = Stunned reaction from Super Sonic (The hell did he go?) = Luffy moves behind Super Sonic and attacks him with both Second and Third Gears, which would probably hurt Super Sonic given their overwhelming power when combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Alright, like I said, I've never followed One Piece, so I'll have to go based on generic and hasty research. I don't think Luffy's will domination would be so complete, given that Sonic gives up about as much as I hear Luffy does (never), even discounting the inheirant magical power of the Chaos Emeralds, which would certainly protect him a little. Apparently Second Gear Luffy is hypersonic, based on the fact that he's dodged bullets from point blank. Hypersonic speed is at least Mach 5, but I'll be generous and suggest Mach 10. I'll be generous and say that combining his Second Gear with Third Gear (which I know nothing of) increases his speed 10,000x. 10,000 x Mach 10 is 100,000 times the speed of sound or ~77 million miles per hour. Super Sonic is still more than 8 times faster than Luffy, given an absolutely generous estimate. Even assuming Luffy can hurt him, he cannot hit him. Luffy would beat regular Sonic, who he admittedly canonically outclasses in all categories, but against Super Sonic he has no chance. [quote name='Beginning446' timestamp='1340145043' post='5959431'] If you give Sonic Chaos Control then Luffy would end up in space and die. That doesn't take a full minute lol [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Very well. I'll vote for Sonic, I suggest you do the same, and I'll keep voting open 'till Friday. Next round is Kratos vs. Scorpion. Third Gear just makes Luffy's limbs really big. It doesn't increase his speed at all, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I know one piece VERY WELL and no amount of haki can take on Super Sonic NO AMOUNT. I don't even think Luffy is Mach 1 let alone light speed if we give Sonic and shadow Chaos powers then actually they pretty much beat everyone except for Ichigo and Xemas (only because they will live long enough make it through the beating). And there is your final match Ichigo vs. Xemnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Have you SEEN Dracule? Also, we're only giving Sonic a set amount of rings in this. For this, he used up all his rings. If he wins. So in later rounds, he can't go Super Sonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I guess you weren't paying attention when he won in 1 second because light is 871,000 times faster than sound. Sonic is one of those characters with terrible power scaling. In normal form, he will be completely owned by anyone faster than sound, because that is his only power, but with the Chaos Emeralds, he becomes an invincible lightspeed reality warper. In all honesty, he shouldn't be used in vs. topics for this very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 [quote name='HijackAttack' timestamp='1340227756' post='5960024'] Have you SEEN Dracule? Also, we're only giving Sonic a set amount of rings in this. For this, he used up all his rings. If he wins. So in later rounds, he can't go Super Sonic. [/quote] When did One Piece get this theoretically powerful? I was there I watched and continue to read it. Yes if there had not been Chaos Sonic and Shadow, Ichigo, Xemans, and maybe one of the Mario people (don't really know about them so maybe they're beast idk) the Mihawk can sweep the competition. But you can't put mortals in a contest with reality warpers, Light speeders, and pure broken destructive protagonist and think the mortals have a chance. P.S. Mystogan is too weak for this competition, In fact where you are in Fairy Tale there is probably 2 people able to hold their own with the cast you said. At the very least say Gildartz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 How about this: Sonic is Semi-Super Sonic, so a hybrid. He can move faster than he normally can, but no Lightspeed. So about...Mach 5 or 6. I don't know how fast Ichigo can move (Because I'm assuming he's pretty damn fast), but I'll increase it so that he's faster than anyone in this, but without all the powers of Super Sonic. Not including this round. Also, I honest think Noob Saibot is going to win this, because of his teleporting and shadow powers and stuff. I'll do some hasty research on Gildartz and replace Mystogan with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 [quote name='HijackAttack' timestamp='1340330359' post='5960690'] Also, I honest think Noob Saibot is going to win this, because of his teleporting and shadow powers and stuff. [/quote] Xemnas can teleport too, and one-ups Darkness with power over [b]Nothingness[/b]. Mario has zero chance of winning this, by the way, I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Okay yeah the winner is Xemnas because you can't hit a nobody without a keyblade anyway and we know you can't beat Xemnas without a combination of reaction commands, luck and button mashing. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Not exactly true, you have all your partners (like the Beast) who can hurt Nobodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medivh Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Final Xemnas in KH 2 was a cinematic nightmare. Anyway, Round 1: Match 2 has started. Kratos vs. Scorpion. Gogogogogogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 [quote]As a spectre, Scorpion is immune to death as his soul is still bound by revenge, allowing him to endlessly chase his targets until they have been silenced.[/quote] It's a draw. If his element is hellfire, Kratos simply won't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Did you drop the contest or is my argument just that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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