Dragonic X Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Monsters:super conductor tyrannoblue-eyes white dragon x 3dragonic knightmystical beast of serketmagna-slash dragonluster dragon #2paladin of the white dragonkoumori dragonmirage dragonwinged dragon gaurdian of the fortress #1 x 2dark bladeluster dragonlord of dgolem dragonsolar flare dragonmasked dragonsword mastertune warriorman-eater bug x 2old vindictive magicianthe calculatorherald of the orange lightstardust xialongsupayattack gainerstardust phantom spells:temple of the kingslightning vortexheavy stormmausoleum of the emperorfusion sageswords of revealing lightmonster reborndian keto the cure mastersilver wingpolymerizationflute of summoning dragonmage powerwhite dragon ritualdragons mirrordragons treasure traps:a hero emergessynchro deflectorwidespread ruindraining shieldnegate attacka rival appearsdragons ragemagic cylinder x 2call of the haunted x 2trap holedefensive drawcursed seal of the forbidden spelltwo-pronged attack extra:blue-eyes ultimate dragonshooting star dragonstardust dragonx-saber urbellumgaia knight, the force of earthmoon dragon quilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Temple of Kings BANNED. Also, not sure if troll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonic X Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 no its not, i checked the newest format wait, nevermind, dammit well, no more giant trunade hello heavy storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Galaxy Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'd suggest, well, picking a theme, taking out all the awful cards, and starting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonic X Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 this deck is top of its game, you should see it in action, dont say a card is awful until you put up a card that can 1up itbut i will gladly except direct card editing switches theme: straight out attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/284760-march-2012-format-basic-deck-building-tutorial/ For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, please refer to this in order to make at least a decent deck (unless if this is irl, then don't know what to say). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'll make a direct edit. - Every card+ Good cards - Horrible Theme+ Good Theme. Straight Out Attack isn't a theme, for crying out loud. EDIT: OH MY GOD THIS DECK HAS 60 CARDS. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Galaxy Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Monsters:super conductor tyranno It's awful. Not only that, but there's absolutely no synergy with anything else in the Deck to make it remotely useful. Scrap it. blue-eyes white dragon x 3 Okay, for the sake of actually giving you something to work with, let's say we keep the Blue-Eyes White Dragon at 3. dragonic knight It's terrible. Way too reliant on your opponent and Effect Veiler does the job better. mystical beast of serket It's not even that it's bad - it's just completely unusable. Temple of the Kings is banned, and this card can't even be played. There's no point in running it. magna-slash dragon This isn't 2007 and you're not playing Crystal Beasts from that era, so there's no point to run Magna-Slash at all. It's completely outclassed by everything, including Wattail Dragon. luster dragon #2 If you were playing Hieratics of some kind, I suppose you could run this, but again, it's 2400 ATK, a Tribute, and really not worth the effort at all. paladin of the white dragon An absolutely awful Ritual Monster that generates no real advantage and takes way too much set-up just to get out a Blue-Eyes White Dragon, which we'll be able to do better by the time I actually finish picking apart this terrible list. koumori dragon I'm not even sure I need to explain this one. mirage dragon It's a decent card, and I'll more than likely end up giving you some sort of Disaster Dragon build by the end of this, but there's no reason to run this; it's not good anymore, except as a tech at best, and other cards do the job better. winged dragon gaurdian of the fortress #1 x 2 See: Komouri Dragon. dark blade See: Komouri Dragon. luster dragon I guess we could technically keep this, but that would involve running Rescue Rabbit as well, and Alexandrite would do that better, so what's the point? lord of d Awful. Not good at all. It offers no advantage and is easily run over by 90% of the cards commonly used. golem dragon Another really bad card. I mean, sure, it's got 2000 DEF, so it's better than some of the things you're running in here, but it's still bad. solar flare dragon Bad. It deals 500 points of burn damage, which is irrelevant in any competitive match-up. masked dragon Good. Let's keep this. 3 of them, to be exact. sword master This is just bad. The majority of the Warrior-Type Tuner monsters aren't good to begin with. On top of that, you're trying to run it in a Dragon Deck. Why? tune warrior Tuners are less relevant now than ever before with the rise of Xyz, and the ones that are good aren't this one. man-eater bug x 2 Completely outclassed by Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter. So let's run 2-3 Ryko while we're building this. old vindictive magician See: Man-Eater Bug. the calculator It has no relevance outside of its own Deck, and this is not that. herald of the orange light It was a good card back in the 2010-2011 format, and I suppose you could still run it in some kind of Kristya-based Deck, but that's about it. Not here. stardust xialong This isn't good either. There are so many better options, and it doesn't do anything unless you manage to bring out Stardust Dragon. supay Wrong Deck for this. attack gainer It's a below-average Tuner, and there are so many better choices. stardust phantom Stardust Dragon isn't nearly as relevant as it used to be. When you're Summoning it in this format, it's more than likely going to be with Starlight Road, making this card useless anyway. So let's see: Monsters: 3 : Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon2 : Blue-Eyes White Dragon2 : Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon1 : Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 3 : Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter3 : Tour Guide from the Underworld3 : Red-Eyes Wyvern3 : Masked Dragon2 : Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress1-2 : Delta Flyer This is really just a rough outline, but it's the closest I can get to a "Monster" line-up for a Disaster Dragon Deck that would stand a chance of competing in this Meta. spells:temple of the kings It's banned. You can't use it. lightning vortex It's not really a good card anymore; Dark Hole should take care of any issues you're having. heavy storm This is good; keep it. mausoleum of the emperor This isn't necessary, nor is it good. The only Deck I'd even consider playing this in is Eartbound Immortals, but even then, I'm not sure I'd run it. fusion sage You're not going to run Polymerization here, so you don't need this. swords of revealing light Being attacked shouldn't be something this Deck has to worry about, especially not in a format with 2-3 Mystical Space Typhoon and Heavy Storm in almost every Deck. monster reborn Good. Keep it. dian keto the cure master Why would you waste your time running this when you could run something that adds consistency? silver wing You won't be Synchroing too much, but if you do, this isn't what you're going to want to waste space on. Forbidden Lance would keep the monster safe much more effectively. polymerization It's bad and costs way too many cards. flute of summoning dragon Lord of D. is awful, which means this is useless. mage power If you really needed ATK power, you could run United We Stand, but Dragons don't really have to worry about that. white dragon ritual Ritual Spells just aren't worth it right now unless they're Gishki. dragons mirror It's possible you could keep 1 of these incase you wanted to try and swing for game with Five-Headed Dragon. We'll see what the Spell Format looks like once I'm finished reviewing this. dragons treasure So bad. Spells: 3 : Solar Recharge2-3 : Mystical Space Typhoon1 : Future Fusion1 : Dark Hole1 : Monster Reborn1 : Heavy Storm1 : Charge of the Light Brigade0-1 : Foolish Burial0-1 : Dragon's Mirror0-2 : Forbidden Lance traps: a hero emerges This is just way too reliant on the opponent picking something useful. You don't even need to run it. synchro deflector Negate Attack is much better, and Negate Attack is bad. widespread ruin Dimensional Prison does this much better. This triggers cards like Lightpulsar Dragon and Elemental HERO The Shining. draining shield See: Widespread Ruin, minus the second part. negate attack See: Synchro Deflector. a rival appears Too reliant on the opponent. dragons rage Piercing damage isn't worth running a Continuous Trap Card that can be easily destroyed. magic cylinder x 2 Fiendish Chain is much better for stopping attacks. Plus, it allows you to counter opponent's plays, and it's chainable. call of the haunted x 2 This is something you can run in Dragons, but for the most part, you'd be better of trying not too, because you can focus on speed. However, you can run it. trap hole Bottomless Trap Hole is much better. defensive draw This is just useless. Upstart Goblin is a better choice, but even that isn't something Dragons usually run. cursed seal of the forbidden spell Dark Bribe is better and much less specific. two-pronged attack So bad. So... Trap Cards 2 : Fiendish Chain2 : Torrential Tribute0-2 : Call of the Haunted0-2 : Bottomless Trap Hole0-2 : Dimensional Prison1 : Solemn Judgment extra:blue-eyes ultimate dragonshooting star dragonstardust dragonx-saber urbellumgaia knight, the force of earthmoon dragon quilla Honestly, I don't really care too much, so I don't know why I took the trouble to go through and do this, but I did, so, here it is. So let's see: Monsters: 3 : Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon2 : Blue-Eyes White Dragon2 : Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon1 : Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 3 : Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter3 : Tour Guide from the Underworld3 : Red-Eyes Wyvern3 : Masked Dragon2 : Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress1-2 : Delta Flyer1 : Sangan Spells: 3 : Solar Recharge2-3 : Mystical Space Typhoon1 : Future Fusion1 : Dark Hole1 : Monster Reborn1 : Heavy Storm1 : Charge of the Light Brigade0-1 : Foolish Burial0-1 : Dragon's Mirror0-2 : Forbidden Lance Trap Cards 2 : Fiendish Chain2 : Torrential Tribute0-2 : Call of the Haunted0-2 : Bottomless Trap Hole0-2 : Dimensional Prison1 : Solemn Judgment Of course, you could make other changes, too. Synchros should be the generic ones, like Stardust Dragon, Scrap Dragon, even Trident Dragion, incase you're able to bring it out. Don't forget about Xyz, either. Something along these lines should be much more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 ^Ditto. By the way, your deck... It's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonic X Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Honestly, I don't really care too much, so I don't know why I took the trouble to go through and do this, but I did, so, here it is. hey jerk, you are allowed 1 forbiddeenand heavy storm is not forbiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 hey jerk, you are allowed 1 forbiddeenand heavy storm is not forbiden Ok, so Neo goes out of his way and spends quite a bit of time trying to fix this horrifying monstrosity of a Deck (if it can even be called that), and you repay him by calling him a jerk? Obviously a troll. Also, in what world is one allowed a Forbidden card? They're Forbidden cards, not "Kind of Forbidden but not really because you're allowed to have a copy of one in your Deck" cards. As far as the Deck goes, just take Neos advice. Please. For all of our sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Galaxy Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 First of all, you're not allowed any Forbiddens, and it's obvious you have no idea how to play this game. Also, if your idea of trolling is to post an absolutely shitty Deck and deny people's comments on it, I'm pretty sure you could do a little better than that. But this Deck is terrible. I'd rather take the Yugi Starter Deck to a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonic X Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 First of all, you're not allowed any Forbiddens, and it's obvious you have no idea how to play this game. Also, if your idea of trolling is to post an absolutely shitty Deck and deny people's comments on it, I'm pretty sure you could do a little better than that. But this Deck is terrible. I'd rather take the Yugi Starter Deck to a tournament.this deck has won 85%of the duels its been in. you guys say its shitty, how do you expect me to take it, say "yeah its pretty bad", F*** NO. I TAKE IT AS AN EXTREME OFFENSE. IM PISSED AT YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW HOW ZOMBIE DECKS ARE HARD TO DEFEAT, NOT FOR ME, IM A SEASONED DUELIST WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH TOP RANK DECKS. I KNOW HOW TO USE THESE CARDS, YOU DONT, SO UNTIL YOU MASTER HOW THIS "STONG SET" WORKS. I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ITS SO BAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I DARE YOU TO PUT THIS DECK INTO A SIMULATER AND DUEL IT. I ADMIT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, BUT HELL IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WORST. PS. I PLAY DUEL TRANSFER TO PRACTICE, IT ALLOWS ME 1 FORBIDDEN CARD!!!! SO IM SORRY IF TEMPLE OF THE KINGS IS IN HERE!!!!!! I mean come on, every other structure deck has a forbidden card as well, so why complain about it. pss. this is a real life deck. i am also limited to cards, this is what i came up with, so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Galaxy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 The depressing part is I don't think you're trolling. If only because no one tries that hard to troll. The Deck is bad; I tried offering some solid advice to at least give you something decent to build off of, and you chose to ignore it. However, you can enjoy winning duels on your Game Boy Advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherz Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 this deck has won 85%of the duels its been in. you guys say its shitty, how do you expect me to take it, say "yeah its pretty bad", F*** NO. I TAKE IT AS AN EXTREME OFFENSE. IM PISSED AT YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW HOW ZOMBIE DECKS ARE HARD TO DEFEAT, NOT FOR ME, IM A SEASONED DUELIST WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH TOP RANK DECKS. I KNOW HOW TO USE THESE CARDS, YOU DONT, SO UNTIL YOU MASTER HOW THIS "STONG SET" WORKS. I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ITS SO BAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I DARE YOU TO PUT THIS DECK INTO A SIMULATER AND DUEL IT. I ADMIT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, BUT HELL IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WORST. PS. I PLAY DUEL TRANSFER TO PRACTICE, IT ALLOWS ME 1 FORBIDDEN CARD!!!! SO IM SORRY IF TEMPLE OF THE KINGS IS IN HERE!!!!!! I mean come on, every other structure deck has a forbidden card as well, so why complain about it.I tried to ignore this topic. I really tried. These people tried to help. They really tried. Duel transer is easy as it gets. A 60 card deck could win ANY duel. I would try to help, but when neo galaxy tried,you insulted him. You posted this junk here so we could help. But, when we did, you refused to take any constructive advice and instead, rudely insulted and yelled at us. This will not do. I simply do not understand the point of posting this, only to defend it with your life, Before this topic gets locked, please tell me, no everybody why you chose to post this. Was it for praise? Was it for help? Clearly not for help. Before posting garbage again, would you please look at this? Thank you for your time.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/284760-march-2012-format-basic-deck-building-tutorial/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 We need a policy that decks like these should be locked upon creation with a link to Kenta's FAQ provided. .-. I mean, obvious troll is obvious but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 this deck has won 85%of the duels its been in Where did that number come from its sounds pretty exact. you guys say its shitty, how do you expect me to take it, say "yeah its pretty bad", F*** NO. I TAKE IT AS AN EXTREME OFFENSE. IM PISSED AT YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW HOW ZOMBIE DECKS ARE HARD TO DEFEAT, NOT FOR ME, IM A SEASONED DUELIST (Really? Define seasoned for me) WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH TOP RANK DECKS (I'm going to need a definition of "Top Rank" from you). I KNOW HOW TO USE THESE CARDS, YOU DONT (Really? What's the great mystery of Lord of D.) SO UNTIL YOU MASTER HOW THIS "STONG SET" <Yes this deserves to be in quotations because clearly something is off with that statement WORKS. I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ITS SO BAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I DARE YOU TO PUT THIS DECK INTO A SIMULATER AND DUEL IT (I see my image of victory I summon [insert decent card here] and proceed to win with little effort). I ADMIT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, BUT HELL IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WORST< Debatable. PS. I PLAY DUEL TRANSFER TO PRACTICE, IT ALLOWS ME 1 FORBIDDEN CARD!!!! SO IM SORRY IF TEMPLE OF THE KINGS IS IN HERE!!!!!! I mean come on, every other structure deck has a forbidden card as well, so why complain about it. pss. this is a real life deck. i am also limited to cards, this is what i came up with, so there. (you should probably lead with this that way people would more likely feel pity and sympathize with you rather than contempt for taking a dump on there suggestions) Irl and you came up with 60 cards meaning we can put this collection of cards (its not a deck so yeah) on weight watchers and trim some fat. Abandon synchro summoning (That should get rid of the sub par tuners), Abandon vanillas (Blue will simply be a casualty) and kill off sword master and banned cards. There that should get us down to the 40's right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 This thread reminds me of what I did on DGz. Except I'm not sure if THIS guy is trolling... OT: Dragonic X, listen to these guys, especially Neo Galaxy. He posted a much better deck than what you posted, it's better if you just go by it. Because when you do, you'll get a sense of what a GOOD deck is made of. I myself am still learning (only because of the stupid format constantly changing and I don't play in tourneys), but I know a bit. If you ever need help, and I mean it, you can always ask a mod on this site, or one of the better players on this site. Or you can go to DGz, get ripped apart, and get -200 reps in one day. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Pennar Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 this deck has won 85%of the duels its been in. you guys say its shitty, So you won against more Decks like this? How does it stand to Dino-Rabbit or Inzektors? If you don't know what those decks are, go look them up! how do you expect me to take it, say "yeah its pretty bad", F*** NO. I TAKE IT AS AN EXTREME OFFENSE. IM PISSED AT YOU GUYS. Good for you, except that is the truth, It's terrible YOU KNOW HOW ZOMBIE DECKS ARE HARD TO DEFEAT, Your reasoning is terrible, get with the times, Zombies are a walk in the park... NOT FOR ME, IM A SEASONED DUELIST WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH TOP RANK DECKS. I KNOW HOW TO USE THESE CARDS, YOU DONT, SO UNTIL YOU MASTER HOW THIS "STONG SET" WORKS. I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ITS SO BAD RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I smell Blatant Lies, Compared to you, I'm the more seasoned Duelist I DARE YOU TO PUT THIS DECK INTO A SIMULATER AND DUEL IT. I ADMIT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST, BUT HELL IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WORST. Done, How do you think i got 30 losses in a row on DuelingNetwork? PS. I PLAY DUEL TRANSFER TO PRACTICE, IT ALLOWS ME 1 FORBIDDEN CARD!!!! SO IM SORRY IF TEMPLE OF THE KINGS IS IN HERE!!!!!! I mean come on, every other structure deck has a forbidden card as well, so why complain about it. I had to laugh, hard... Why? The Latest Structure Decks have no banned cards! The only one that is the latest that I can think of that would have Banned cards would be Zombie World pss. this is a real life deck. i am also limited to cards, this is what i came up with, so there. I could buy 3 or even 2 Dragons Collide Structure Decks and make a much better deck than this abominable thing I'm sorry, but you really need to start over and make a different deck... or at least follow the advice of others, Though in this case, I'd do the former... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zektor Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Honestly, my 5 year old sister could make a deck better than this. Please listen to Neo for the sake of understanding the card game. BTW in what world do structure decks have banned cards? Look at dragons collide. Do you see banned cards? Exactly. At least half the people who actually play yugioh on this site play IRL and have decks 10000x better than this. Also on dueling network 21 losses 0 wins. Your saying this is good? You need to learn the card game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Galaxy Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Everyone's responses are the same, but we're not going to get anywhere. Think about it - I took an hour of my time to go through every single card in his Deck and explain why it was terrible, and he brushed it off. Clearly, clearly a troll. Or terrible at the game for refusing to accept criticism and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hatcher Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I thought YCM was a bunch of idiots ideating like idiots so I was actually surprised Neo Glaxy acted mature enough to get off his high horse and tell the TC specifically what was wrong with his deck. Like... this is pretty basic stuff here. You're REALLY saying that running 1 Luster Dragon and 1 Koumori Dragon is significantly better then running 2 Luster Dragons? Like... 1900 + 1500 is better then 1900 + 1900? Don't get a job working with numbers kiddo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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