xistrifeix Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 pieced together 3 dragon's collide starters a couple of dragon supports laying around, i would like an opinion of good, bad, or crap. Monsters: -Lyla, lightsworn sorceress x3 -Darkflare dragon x3 -Lightpulsar dragon x3 -Axe dragonute x3 -Summoner monk x2 -Ryko, lightsword hunter x3 -Red eyes darkness metal dragon x2 -Chaos sorcerer x2 -Mystic tomato x2 -Eclipse wyveryn x2 -Jain, lightsworn paladin x1 -Dark armed dragon x1 Spells/Traps: -Charge of the light brigade x1 -Call of the haunted x2 -Pharaoh's treasure x2 -A wingbeat of giant dragon x2 -Dark hole x1 -Escape from the dark dimension x1 -The dragon's bead x1 -Monster gate x1 -Dragon's rage x1 -Magical stone excavation x1 Extra: -Number 39: utopia -Maestroke the symphony of djinn I plan on getting black luster soldier envoy of the beginning, future fusion, blue eyes ultimate, five headed dragon...Basically the popular stuff for dragon decks such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Why are you running Trap Cards? Also, why do you think that BEUD is popular? As far as the Lightsworns, stick to 3 Ryko and 3 Lyla. Axe Dragonute is bad. Summoner Monk is Bad. Get 3 Veilers in any way you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 i've seen a couple of people running it in their dragon decks and damn, an effect veiler is gonna be tough cash...so if summoner monk is bad then that makes mystic tomato twice as bad. so adding another monster gate, charge of the light brigade and well...What are other good dark monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343024936' post='5986185'] i've seen a couple of people running it in their dragon decks and damn, an effect veiler is gonna be tough cash...so if summoner monk is bad then that makes mystic tomato twice as bad. so adding another [b]monster gate, charge of the light brigade[/b] and well...What are other good dark monsters? [/quote] Charge and Gate are both limited, you can only have 1 of them. I suggest you look over the current Forbidden/Limited list. It can be found on Yugioh-Card.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 oh i didn't notice those on the forbidden/limit list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antist0opid Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think if you are interested in FHD and BEUD (BEUD not so recommended), i would suggest dragons mirror if you dont use future fusion. Aside from that, maybe a return from the different dimension, with some of these cards you will be removing many cards, and it would be a good back up in case your front line gets wiped out and you need to do some damage. Good luck with making it the way you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubar Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 take tomato away and try for atleast 2 veiler and some staple spell cards hole heavy reborn mystical and idk duality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 When you're doing decks, separate spells and traps as well. Also, looks like you're going for Chaos Dragons. Buy a couple of boxes of Battle Pack: Epic Dawn for Tour Guide from the Underworld. This lets you Xyz into Leviair the Sea Beast, which can recycle your banished monsters. Leiviar is $20+, so it might be a stretch but it's definitely needed. The Order of Chaos Special Edition boxes have your Effect Veilers. Just to give you an idea, here's what I'm running for Dragons 30 3 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 3 Lightpulsar Dragon 3 Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress 3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter 3 Effect Veiler 3 Tour Guide from the Underworld 2 Chaos Sorcerer 2 Eclipse Wyvern 2 Card Trooper 2 Tragoedia 1 Sangan 1 Dark Armed Dragon 1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (This is Gorz IRL) 10 2 Solar Recharge 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Charge of the Light Brigade 1 Monster Reborn 1 Heavy Storm 1 Dark Hole 1 Future Fusion 1 Allure of Darkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 where should i purchase these booster box's? ebay? amazon? tcgplayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343059086' post='5986339'] where should i purchase these booster box's? ebay? amazon? tcgplayer? [/quote]Any place that sells packs, really. It's a box of 24 (or for Epic Dawn, 32) packs. And Effect Veiler isn't "serious cash", it's like 3-4 for a super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 WHAT?! Where?! People on ebay sell'em for a crazy amount! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Did a little revising.... [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Monsters:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Lyla, lightsworn sorceress x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Darkflare dragon x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Lightpulsar dragon x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Lord of D. x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Alexandrite dragon x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Ryko, lightsword hunter x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Red eyes darkness metal dragon x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Chaos sorcerer x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Mystic tomato x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Eclipse wyveryn x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Jain, lightsworn paladin x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Dark armed dragon x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Card trooper x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Black luster soldier envoy x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Effect veiler x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Spells:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Charge of the light brigade x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Card trader x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Book of moon x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Heavy storm x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Dark hole x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Mystical space typhoon x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Monster reborn x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Monster gate x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Hand destruction x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Solar recharge x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Extra:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Number 39: utopia[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Maestroke the symphony of djinn[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Adding necroface a bad idea for this deck btw?[/background][/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 You'll want 3 Veiler if you want to compete. Inzektors, Rabbit, Wind-Ups will rape you if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 yeaaah i watched a duel vid of a rabbit deck vs chaos dragons, i'm frightened of bunnies now...Is tour guide of the underworld mandatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 If you want the best deck, yes. It Normal Summons a Rank 3. And Dragons do have a pretty good matchup against Rabbit. Laggia can't stop LPD's effect to summon from the Graveyard and Dolkka can't stop any inherent summons. Anyway, the cheapest TGU should be about $15-25, that'd be the rare from Battle Pack: Epic Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 More revising...This time with cards i actually want and need in this deck after going through some cards and reviews... [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Monsters:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Lyla, lightsworn sorceress x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Darkflare dragon x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Lightpulsar dragon x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Spirit reaper x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Alexandrite dragon x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Ryko, lightsword hunter x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Red eyes darkness metal dragon x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Chaos sorcerer x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Mystic tomato x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Eclipse wyveryn x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Sangan x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Dark armed dragon x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Card trooper x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Black luster soldier envoy x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Effect veiler x2[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Divine dragon apocralyph x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Spells:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Charge of the light brigade x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Enemy controller x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Forbidden chalice x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Heavy storm x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Dark hole x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Mystical space typhoon x3[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Monster reborn x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Monster gate x1[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Extra:[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Number 39: utopia[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Maestroke the symphony of djinn[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Temtempo the percussion djinn[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Muzurhythym the string djinn[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Melomelody the bass djinn[/background][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]-Number 34 terror byte[/background][/size][/font][/color] This deck isn't really gonna run a future fusion, i find it more pleasable to mill a crap ton since i plan on having 2 card troopers, 2 tragoedia, 1 gorza, 1 more effect veiler and so i can bring out black luster. I am absolutely getting hands on a Tour guide of underworld x3 or x2 and if that's the case i'll probably have to put in allure of darkness. Alexandrite is just a filler for the cards i plan on acquiring and once i get another card trooper, 2 tragoedia, 1 gorza, and 1 effect veiler they're gonna replace 1x lyla because of my 3 MSTs, alexandrites, 1 mystic tomato, and 1 chaos sorcerer. As for spells, forbidden chalice, enemy controller, and monster gate are just fillers for allure of darkness. Optional replacement upon the 2 spells left will probably be x2 pot of duality. As for extra it'll also be optional but most likely highly required for how things go; Ancient fairy BUT i recommend black rose. If that's the case then i'll have to fit in a debris dragon...Hmmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343182951' post='5988171'] This deck isn't really gonna run a future fusion[/quote]Then you're an idiot. Future Fusion is virtually equivalent to a victory in this deck. [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343182951' post='5988171'] I am absolutely getting hands on a Tour guide of underworld x3 or x2 and if that's the case i'll probably have to put in allure of darkness. [/quote]You should run 3 and Sangan AT ALL TIMES. Same goes for Allure, even without Tour Guides. [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343182951' post='5988171'] Alexandrite is just a filler for the cards i plan on acquiring and once i get another card trooper, 2 tragoedia, 1 gorza, and 1 effect veiler they're gonna replace 1x lyla because of my 3 MSTs, alexandrites, 1 mystic tomato, and 1 chaos sorcerer. [/quote]Apocralyph is a better replacement. And you should be gunning for 2-3 Solar Recharge and 3 Lyla if you want to make any bit of consistency in this deck. [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343182951' post='5988171'] As for spells, forbidden chalice, enemy controller, and monster gate are just fillers for allure of darkness. [/quote]Didn't you just say you could easily put in allure of darkness? Monster Gate and Enemy Controller are bad in this deck. [quote name='xistrifeix' timestamp='1343182951' post='5988171'] Optional replacement upon the 2 spells left will probably be x2 pot of duality. As for extra it'll also be optional but most likely highly required for how things go; Ancient fairy BUT i recommend black rose. If that's the case then i'll have to fit in a debris dragon...Hmmmmmmmmmm [/quote]Don't run Duality. As far as Xyz go, it's pretty much just: Zenmaines, Leviair, Brilliant, Leviathan Dragon, Utopia, C39, Maestroke, Inzektor Exa-Beetle, Photon Strike Bounzer, Hieratic Dragon King of Atum, Gaia Dragon the Thunder Charger, etc. If you want synchros, then Black Rose, Exploder Dragonwing, or Ancient Sacred Wyvern all work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubar Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Needs tour guide +1veiler -2Spirit reaper -2 darkflare idk if monster gate is needed and future fusion is good since you have a choice of what your gonna mill +1redmd +some lvl 8 dragons and some trade-in's i guessNeeds tour guide +1veiler -2Spirit reaper -2 darkflare idk if monster gate is needed and future fusion is good since you have a choice of what your gonna mill +1redmd +some lvl 8 dragons and some trade-in's i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xistrifeix Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 yeaaah but future fusion is only good if it comes before i start milling the hell out of my deck and begin banishing... edit* nevermind i see everyone's point for future fusion now, guess that means i'll need FHD for sure then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubar Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 still run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 [quote name='Dubar' timestamp='1343183817' post='5988191'] Needs tour guide [b]Yes[/b] +1veiler [b]Yes[/b] -2Spirit reaper [b]Yes[/b] -2 darkflare [b]One is good. Two is still good. Three is bad. So, Yes.[/b] idk if monster gate is needed [b]It's not.[/b] and future fusion is good since you have a choice of what your gonna mill [b]That, and you mill 5.[/b] +1redmd [b]Nope. You don't run 3 in Chaos Dragons.[/b] +some lvl 8 dragons and some trade-in's i guess [b]No. This is completely unnecessary. Just add 3 Solar Recharge and Lyla for a mill and draw engine.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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