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Who wants Another Instant Win Condition...... cuz i don't


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At first Distorter was suppose to win the duel when he had all 3 cards, but i decided that i would hate that and so would many others..... so instead a had a burn/stall stragtegy... which everyone also hates... -___-. Also the the apostrophes (" ") aren't appearing on the cards so yeh......

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[spoiler=Lore]This card cannot be summoned except by it's own effect. You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by discarding 3 "Avatus" cards. Once per turn you can discard an “Avatus of Matter”, “Avatus of Space”, and “Avatus of Time” to deal 4000 points of damage to your opponent’s Life Points. If this card were to be removed from the field by a card effect, you can discard 2 “Avatus” cards instead. This card cannot attack.[/spoiler]

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[spoiler=Lore]While in your hand, this card counts as "Avatus of Space”. If this card was discarded to activate the effect(s) of a Fairy-Type monster, activate 1 of these effects:
-Target 1 Effect Monster, its effects are negated.
-Target 1 face down Spell or Trap Card, it cannot be activated.
You can only activate the effects of "Keeper of the Blue Avatus" once per turn.[/spoiler]

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I would firstly say make Distorters burn a Once per turn thing. Otherwise, i can see it being slightly to powerful.

The spells are fine, since they are one per turn. Decentish deck thinner in a Spell counter or magical deck. Keeper of green... I no like. 1500 burn is quite a lot. Maybe 1000? Since, you could as it stands, play Sangan, search for it, then discard it to help activate Distorters burn, and thats 6500 done already. And there are plenty of burn effects that could do that much.

Red Avatus... its ok. But i will adress one problem i've had with all of them so far in a bit.

Blue avatus. remove the no attacking, and its fine. A perminant Chain that can't be stopped is way to much. A perminant negate is fine, in my book. But not perminant no attacking.

My problem... This cards scream +1's in effect. A stall deck uses hallowed life barrier. Discards say Blue Avatus, no damage this turn, and a monster of yours now can't attack. That and the surviving Ice barrier dragons. Brionac and Grungir can use these to no end building huge amounts of advantage is no short order. Which, i know isn't your intention for them (i hope).

For changes... I'm not sure. if you wanted to expand, and add discard outlets, then you could make them specific, reducing abuse. but... as it stands... You could have the Avatus effect apply in place of the normal effect. So, if this card is discarded as a cost for an effect you may make the effect: [insert relvant effect]. I know its a probably terrible plan but i see these being used for a lot more than the stall/burn you are intending. That effect would make people think twice beofre splashing.

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I would firstly say make Distorters burn a Once per turn thing. Otherwise, i can see it being slightly to powerful.

The spells are fine, since they are one per turn. Decentish deck thinner in a Spell counter or magical deck. Keeper of green... I no like. 1500 burn is quite a lot. Maybe 1000? Since, you could as it stands, play Sangan, search for it, then discard it to help activate Distorters burn, and thats 6500 done already. And there are plenty of burn effects that could do that much.

Red Avatus... its ok. But i will adress one problem i've had with all of them so far in a bit.

Blue avatus. remove the no attacking, and its fine. A perminant Chain that can't be stopped is way to much. A perminant negate is fine, in my book. But not perminant no attacking.

My problem... This cards scream +1's in effect. A stall deck uses hallowed life barrier. Discards say Blue Avatus, no damage this turn, and a monster of yours now can't attack. That and the surviving Ice barrier dragons. Brionac and Grungir can use these to no end building huge amounts of advantage is no short order. Which, i know isn't your intention for them (i hope).

For changes... I'm not sure. if you wanted to expand, and add discard outlets, then you could make them specific, reducing abuse. but... as it stands... You could have the Avatus effect apply in place of the normal effect. So, if this card is discarded as a cost for an effect you may make the effect: [insert relvant effect]. I know its a probably terrible plan but i see these being used for a lot more than the stall/burn you are intending. That effect would make people think twice beofre splashing.
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For distorter: i didn't put the Once per turn clause? Eh, i'll change it soon.

For the Avatuses.... Avati?, whatever: I wanted them to be able to thin deck, but then i realized that they were spells so i put the once per turn thing.

The Keepers: Damn, i forgot about the Ice Barrier dragons. I was too worried about Dark World/Fabled. I change it soon enough. (p.s. it's permanent =P.......... i was confused with perminant)

Anyway, thank you for ur help.

I added the Once per turn clause to Distorter and made the Keepers less splashable. Although i didn't change the spells. So yeh....

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