BehindTheMask Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='Shotgun Cultist' timestamp='1348071824' post='6028010'] this is simply a reply to this, take a look into quantum physics, looking specifically at both the theories of quantum suicide (a man holds a gun to his head and pulls the trigger, in that exact instance, two infinite chains of reality are created; the gun fires and he dies, or the gun jams and he doesn't, plus infinitely more chains of every possible outcome) and other dimensions, now based on that do you not think it could be possible that, either in some alternate plane of existence the holocaust actually didn't happen?, and that that alternate plane, or other dimension or whatever the hell it is operates at the exact same physical limitations and expectations as our universe, our reality in which it did happen, this would mean that down to the last millionth of a nanosecond would be duplicated in this universe allowing every event and both an equal opposite or unequal variation to occur within the exact time frames? [/quote] Can you prove that alternate planes of existence exist? Until you prove that alternate planes of existence exist, then your argument is null. And even if it were to exist, then it doesn't matter. We are only to take into account this plane of existence. Since we are only talking about truth in terms of our existence, then it doesn't matter how many possible existing existences exist. [quote name='Rinne' timestamp='1348176018' post='6028865'] If this were the case, then I could undeniably say that a purple elephant is sitting on your head. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion"]Principle of explosion[/url], my friend. [/funfact] [/quote] You misunderstand. I am saying both 1) and 2) cannot both be true at the same time. Therefore, truth cannot be relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism"]I have always loved Agro.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 [quote name='BehindTheMask' timestamp='1348258433' post='6029328'] You misunderstand. I am saying both 1) and 2) cannot both be true at the same time. Therefore, truth cannot be relative. [/quote] I didn't misunderstand. I just didn't care enough to be relevant. 8'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ListenToLife Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 [quote name='Kyng' timestamp='1348219944' post='6029144'] Cognito Ergo Sum, Rene Descartes. That deserves a f*cking Philosophy Rep. Allow me to answer that. It matters not if Agro's thoughts are, in fact, being toyed with by a demon. Rather, the sheer fact itself that Agro has the thoughts in the first places implies his own existence. Allow me to demonstrate: 1 - Agro can think. 2 - You must exist to be able to think. 3 - It would be illogical to believe something non-existant can think. C - Agro thinks, and therefore exists. [/quote] Ahh, but here's the thing. Perhaps he knows that he is real, but how do I know that he is real? How do I know I am not being tricked by some Demon trickster into believing he is real through the perception that he seems capable of thinking? If it isn't named already, I vote for it to be called the Matrix syndrome. Disbelief in the reality of all but yourself, on the ground that you can only self-conciously 'confirm' your own existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 [quote name='DaWeirdGuy' timestamp='1348609266' post='6032027'] Ahh, but here's the thing. Perhaps he knows that he is real, but how do I know that he is real? How do I know I am not being tricked by some Demon trickster into believing he is real through the perception that he seems capable of thinking? If it isn't named already, I vote for it to be called the Matrix syndrome. Disbelief in the reality of all but yourself, on the ground that you can only self-conciously 'confirm' your own existence. [/quote] What you're looking for already has a name and is an "actual medical" thing (in that it's not officially recognized as a mental disorder but is still acknowledged). [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism_syndrome"]Solipsism syndrome[/url] sounds absolutely terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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