Kreebons Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 [size=4]That's the first card i made. I like DW, so i made a fusion between two Grapha. The picture belong to JazinKay, i've made the rest of the card. How can i upload images not by attach thumbnails? Any help with the [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif]correctness of the effect would be nice.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif]Post your opinion about my first card. [/font][/color][/size] [img]http://i.imgur.com/ZX7UH.jpg[/img] ORIGINAL EFFECT "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" + "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards you contol to the Graveyard. (You do not use "Polymerization".) Once per turn: you can discard a card, then look at 1 random card in your opponent's hand. While this card is face-up on your side of the field, cards in your Graveyard cannot be banished by your opponent's card effects. MODIFIED EFFECT (by a suggestion of [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/user/565864-blackrose0202/"]BlackRose0202[/url]) "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" + "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" Must first be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending the above cards you contol to the Graveyard. (You do not use "Polymerization".) Once per turn: you can discard a card, except "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World", then look at 1 random card in your opponent's hand. While this card is face-up on your side of the field, cards in your Graveyard cannot be banished by your opponent's card effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRose0202 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Ok first off best way to post cards is to save them after making them and then uploading onto Photobucket.com so you can get a good image code because this site is having problems with there image code generator. Second is no matter what don't post Thumbnails because you might get banned cause moderators on this site are messed up. Third is post the lore aka effect under the card so people can see the effect because the words are bunched up. Best thing to do is to use Yugico.com since its more spacious in the effect area and easy to use. This card is actually really good for your first card, it's balanced in the effect since basically all you do is discard to SS a Dark World monster and you look at 1 card in your opponents hand. I think it would benefit you to put [Once per turn, you can discard a card [b](Except Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World,) [/b]to look at 1 random card in your opponent's hand. Other then that I think it's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreebons Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 [size=3]Thank you. I have a question: if you say [b] "[/b][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]to look at 1 random card in your opponent's hand", discard the card become the cost for activate the effect, so the dw monster effects don't start, right? Or not?[/background][/font][/color][/size] [size=3][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]Because i think writing "to" is different than writing "then".[/background][/font][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRose0202 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 [b]To[/b] is an instant action no pause and[b] Then[/b] is a sec pause to activate traps and stuff if im not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi Phoenix Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='BlackRose0202' timestamp='1351195201' post='6053827'] [b]To[/b] is an instant action no pause and[b] Then[/b] is a sec pause to activate traps and stuff if im not mistaken [/quote] Not even close. "To" originally was used as the separation text between a cost ("Discard a card") and the actual effect that resolves. Now that Konami changed to a New Style Text format (PLEASE READ THESE 5 [url="http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?tag=problem-solving-card-text"]OFFICIAL ARTICLES[/url] IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, especially [url="http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2947"]part 3[/url] for cost, timing and structure), the use of "to" in this way is gone because cost is distinctly separate from effect. "Then" was a modifier that invoke that an effect was separate and thus NOT simultaneous with a previous effect in the same sentence. Even though it is technically the same effect, you had to wait for the effect after "then" to resolve before you try to do anything in chain and you couldn't negate the effect that is listed before the word "then" because your window of opportunity is closed (the effect you negate has to be the last effect before you negate). This is the difference between "and" and "then", the window of opportunity. When an effect line said [b]"and"[/b] between two effects, it meant they were simultaneous and you could stop one to stop both or activate an effect that looks for one of those effects to trigger in order to activate. HOWEVER, if it said [b]"Then"[/b], it was [u]NOT[/u] simultaneous, and this is where the INFAMOUS missed timing and missed window stuff comes from. Most cards look for a certain event/effect to happen in order to trigger themselves, that is the window of opportunity. For example: Blast Behind The Door. However, in order to activate cards like that, the LAST effect to activate must be the effect you wish to trigger off of. (in the case of Blast, it must be a damage effect). If two effects happen in a simultaneous effect, you can still activate your card accordingly, but with a "Then" effect, the last effect to go off is the effect that goes after "then", so even those it's the same effect line (and thus actually the same effect), you can't negate the first effect since you have to wait for the second effect to finish and thus your window is closed. Yes, YGO is way more complicated than people would like to know it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreebons Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Wow. Soooo... my effect is right? Or is better change "then" with "and", in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neutrality Man Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 You do realize there is already a Dark World card named after Platinum, right? [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Latinum%2C_Exarch_of_Dark_World"]Latinum, Exarch of Dark World[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 @Chaos Knux Advanced Clause, please. As it stands, I probably wouldn't run it. If I can get 2 graphas on the field, why haven't I won? It's ATK isn't nearly enough of a reward for 2 graphas, and the effect doesn't do much of anything. If I HAD to get rid of 2 graphas to summon something, I'd much rather summon Thunder End Dragon than this. All in all, balanced card, but won't be run ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testblargh Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Looks interesting, but seems far too easy to make an infinite loop: Fuse 2 graphas for this card, discard beiige(or any other dark world that special summons itself) for this card's effect, return beige to hand to summon the first grapha you used to fuse this card, return this card to extra deck to summon the second grapha. Fuse the 2 graphas for this card again and repeat ad-infinitum. Through this u can look at ur opponent's entire hand but there are probably other things u can do with this loop that I can't think of at this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 @testblargh The loop is self-contained, an inherent +0, so you don't get any new cards, therefore its not a potentially dangerous loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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