Zazubat Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Started off with just Vain Demolisher, then turned into some Token action, and Xyz overload. Basicly, I got carried a way. [url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Single_Card_-_Vain_Demolisher/130016-Vain_Demolisher"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130016.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Single_Card_-_Vain_Demolisher/130019-Speed_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130019.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130030-Taker_of_the_Tokens"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130030.jpg[/img][/url] [url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130446-Road_of_the_Giving"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130446.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130118-Vain_Control"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130118.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130123-Monster_Mash"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130123.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130134-Vain_Attachment"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130134.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130513-Vain_Smoker"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130513.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130508-Vain_Consumer"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130508.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130443-Lady_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130443.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130526-X-Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130526.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130528-X-Fected_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130528.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130511-Life_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130511.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130517-Shadow_Fight"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130517.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130519-Blind_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130519.jpg[/img][/url] [url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130623-Vain_Titant"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130623.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130605-Souls_of_the_Wandering"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130605.jpg[/img][/url][url="http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/130619-Ghost_Vain"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/130619.jpg[/img][/url] [URL=http://yugico.com/user/24446-Zaziuma96/card/32894-Vain_Cards/131226-Portal_of_Special_Needs][IMG]http://yugico.com/customcard/131226.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [spoiler= LORE][b]Vain Attachment: Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can equip this card to a monster you control as an Equip Card, OR unequip it to Special Summon this card in face-up Attack Position. During your opponent's End Phase, Special Summon to your field 1 "Vain Token" (Fiend/DARK/Level 3/1000 ATK/0 DEF). These Tokens cannot be Tributed or used for the Synchro Summon of a Synchro Monster, unless for a Fiend-type monster. (A monster can only be equipped with 1 Union monster at a time. If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, destroy this card instead.) Blind Vain:This monster cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned from your hand by destroying 1 "Vain Token" you control. This card cannot attack, and if changed to Attack Position, change it to Defence Position. Once per turn, if you control 1 face-up "Speed Vain", negate the effect of that card until your opponent's End Phase. Special Summon 1 "Vain Token"(Fiend/DARK/Level 3/1000 ATK/0 DEF) to your Field. If this effect is resolved: "Vain Tokens" & "Speed Vain" cannot be destroyed as long as this card remains face-up. Only 1 "Blind Vain" can exist on the Field at once.[/b][/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 You have a good idea there as far as the first card goes but 2500 is a bit steep for a rank 3 requiring 2 materials. Before you bring up Acid Golem it has a huge restriction on it. Unless you give this card a good restriction like on Golem it is going to be far to OP, and even then due to it constantly replenishing material it will probably still be OP. I would suggest lowering it's attack to 1800 and it's defence to 1000 or maybe a tiny bit higher as well as giving it a restriction of some sort if it is going to replenish its material every time you use its effect. The second card isn't that great for support except maybe for the blocking effect, not that such a weak token will be around for long anyway. The fact that it is a reusable effect won't really matter because once your card is face-up nobody will atatck it to prevent you summoning a token. Finally I am pretty sure that tokens cannot be Xyz material anyway although the restriction about only being able to use it for Fiends from the Extra is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1351774569' post='6058742'] You have a good idea there as far as the first card goes but 2500 is a bit steep for a rank 3 requiring 2 materials. Before you bring up Acid Golem it has a huge restriction on it. Unless you give this card a good restriction like on Golem it is going to be far to OP, and even then due to it constantly replenishing material it will probably still be OP. I would suggest lowering it's attack to 1800 and it's defence to 1000 or maybe a tiny bit higher as well as giving it a restriction of some sort if it is going to replenish its material every time you use its effect. The second card isn't that great for support except maybe for the blocking effect, not that such a weak token will be around for long anyway. The fact that it is a reusable effect won't really matter because once your card is face-up nobody will atatck it to prevent you summoning a token. Finally I am pretty sure that tokens cannot be Xyz material anyway although the restriction about only being able to use it for Fiends from the Extra is a good idea. [/quote] Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that Tokens can't be used for Xyz Meterial, thanks for bringing that up. I will make some changes to the cards, come back later and they should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well for your Xyz being unable to attack directly isn't that big a deal since its effect relies upon attacking monsters. For balancing I'd make the replenishing effect work on ATK monsters whilst the piercing works on defence. I'd possibly run it depending on the deck. Speed Vain is better now, not really support though and not a great card, even though you have made it quite well now. A monster with 1000 ATK and 0 DEF that myst be attacked isn't worth running, ever. I like Taker of the Tokens though. Great Xyz support and quite reasonably balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Demolished is deceptively simple, but in actuality not quite so. At first glance one would say "Just a 2.1k monster that pierces!" But no. It allows you to get your monsters in the grave while stopping cards like gravekeeper's recruiter and sangan, which is nice. However, I think that it should be able to attack the opponent directly, because otherwise it just kinda sits there. Speed Vain is, in my opinion, icky design because it sits there, generating meatshields that can't even be attacked, so it just stalls for time. Stallburn would abuse the s*** out of this card. I recommend that the tokens die when it dies. Taker of the Tokens is a really nice card, except for the fact that photon sanctuary exists... Then again, the best you could do with THAT is get out 2 Alexandrites for an Xyz or OTK play. So, the card is abusable, but I wouldn't call it ban-worthy. Overall, mixed feelings about these cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1351786614' post='6058822'] Demolished is deceptively simple, but in actuality not quite so. At first glance one would say "Just a 2.1k monster that pierces!" But no. It allows you to get your monsters in the grave while stopping cards like gravekeeper's recruiter and sangan, which is nice. However, I think that it should be able to attack the opponent directly, because otherwise it just kinda sits there. Speed Vain is, in my opinion, icky design because it sits there, generating meatshields that can't even be attacked, so it just stalls for time. Stallburn would abuse the s*** out of this card. I recommend that the tokens die when it dies. Taker of the Tokens is a really nice card, except for the fact that photon sanctuary exists... Then again, the best you could do with THAT is get out 2 Alexandrites for an Xyz or OTK play. So, the card is abusable, but I wouldn't call it ban-worthy. Overall, mixed feelings about these cards. [/quote]Is it this Photon Sanctaury you are speaking of? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Photon_Sanctuary If so that card is far from that card, so I don't know what you are talking about. For Speed Vain, it's only Speed Vain that can't be attacked, the tokens still can. If you have any way to make it more balanced, be sure to post, cause I can't really think of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 @Zaziuma No, what I'm saying us that photon sanctuary could be abused by this card: 1. Activate sanctuary, get tokens. 2. Activate taker of tokens, get 2 alexandrite dragons. 3. Go for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1351791680' post='6058866'] @Zaziuma No, what I'm saying us that photon sanctuary could be abused by this card: 1. Activate sanctuary, get tokens. 2. Activate taker of tokens, get 2 alexandrite dragons. 3. Go for game. [/quote] I'll make it so it only works for level 3 or lower, that should fix the problem with alexandrite dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Zaziuma' timestamp='1351850711' post='6059282'] I'll make it so it only works for level 3 or lower, that should fix the problem with alexandrite dragon. [/quote] Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1351862775' post='6059353'] Good idea [/quote]It is isn't it? I posted some new cards, and I have a few in the works. Man, a lot of new cards, I got some cool ideas, tell me what you think about: Shadow Fight, Blind Vain, X-Fected Vain and X-Vain, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donvermicelli Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Shadow Fight has a mayor flaw, nothing is stopping either payer from continuously declaring the same type, making the re-pick effect sort of useless. Also, I like Lady Vain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Donvermicelli' timestamp='1351881797' post='6059607'] Shadow Fight has a mayor flaw, nothing is stopping either payer from continuously declaring the same type, making the re-pick effect sort of useless. Also, I like Lady Vain [/quote]I don't see what that has to do with anything? Being able to re-pick the type is for your own benefit, not your opponent's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 The knew cards are looking good. I'll get back to you with a better review soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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