It's those weird dudes from 5DS! Rise of the Dark Tuners!

[Sora1499]

So, I was scrolling through the topics on here the other day and I came across Shinobi's Junk Star Dragon. He made a tribute to the 5DS anime, which was the only GOOD yugioh anime ever, so I figured that I should do the same. Except these cards pay homage to the Dark Signers and their arsenal of ghastly apparitions and bizarre-looking creatures. So, without further do, here they are! The Dark Tuners, the Dark Materials, and the Dark Synchros. Enjoy!

[spoiler='The Dark Tuners']
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Lore: This card can be normal summoned or set without tributes. This cards' effect(s) cannot be negated. You can special summon this card from your hand when a "DARK Material" monster is normal summoned. Once per turn: You can target 1
"DARK Material" monster you control, then decrease this card's Level by that target's Level x2.

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Lore: This card can be normal summoned or set without tributes. This cards' effect(s) cannot be negated. Once per turn: You can target 1 "DARK Material" monster you control, then decrease this card's Level by that target's Level x2. If this card is in your graveyard: You can banish 1 "DARK Tuner" monster and 1 "DARK Synchro" monster from your graveyard; special summon this card from the graveyard.[/spoiler]

[spoiler='The Dark Materials']
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Lore: When this card is summoned, except from the graveyard, you can special summon 1 "DARK" monster from your graveyard, except for "DARK Material Kanmet". When a card that would destroy a "DARK" monster(s) you control is activated, you can send this face-up card you control to the graveyard; negate that card's activation and effect(s), and destroy it.

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[spoiler='The Dark Synchros']
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Lore: 1 "DARK Tuner" tuner + 1 or more "DARK Material" non-tuner monsters Cannot be special summoned, except by synchro summon. When this card is synchro summoned: you can target 1 card on the field. Destroy that target. Once per turn: You can target 1 other monster on the field. When that target leaves the field, inflict damage to your opponent equal to its original ATK.

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Lore: 1 "DARK Tuner" tuner + 1 or more "DARK Material" non-tuner monsters Cannot be special summoned, except by synchro summon. When this card is synchro summoned: you can discard up to 2 cards from your hand; draw an equal number of cards. This card can inflict Piercing damage upon your opponent. When this card inflicts Piercing damage upon your opponent: you can special summon 1 "DARK" monster from your graveyard with ATK equal to or less than the amount of damage inflicted.

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Lore: 1 "DARK Tuner" tuner + 1 or more "DARK Material" non-tuner monsters Cannot be special summoned, except by synchro summon. When this card is synchro summoned: negate the effects of all cards currently on the field, except for synchro monsters. During either turn: You can banish 1 "DARK Tuner" from your graveyard; target 1 monster on the field. That target's ATK becomes 0. When this card leaves the field, you can return all of your banished "DARK" monsters to the graveyard.[/spoiler]

[Sora1499]

Bump for comments

[Brendano Harns]

Technically, it would be:

1 monster - 1 Dark Tuner monster

As the Dark Synchros have negative levels.

[Sora1499]

That game mechanic hasn't been invented yet, so I'm going to keep them relevant to the existing game mechanics. Also, advanced clause.

[Shinobi Phoenix]

[color=#ff0000][b](NOTE: This response was written offline to be posted this morning, except YCMaker went down, so it does not reflect any changes made since then and the actual posting.)[/b][/color]


First and foremost is that a lot of your text needs text, grammar and punctations in proper places and especially CAPITALIZATIONS. "Normal Summoned", "Special Summoned", "Deck", "Graveyard", etc. The word "hand" is never capitalized however.

* DARK Tuner Bodiz *

-- "You can Normal Summon/Set this card without a Tribute."
-- "You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) when a "DARK Material" monster is Normal Summoned.
---- This should likely be a Quick-Effect that Summons itself, not an In-Built Summon. In-Built Summons are "continuous" and never go on chain and since this LOOKS for something to happen and you are choosing whether or not to even do it, that's pretty tricky ruling wise. Look at [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber_Dinosaur"]Cyber Dinosaur[/url][/b]. Right now I can't think of an In-Built Summon that is optional AND "reactive". If you can give me an example, I will see the logic of you doing it like this.
-- "Once per turn: You can target 1 "DARK Material" monster you control, then decrease this card's Level by that target's Level x2." (??????)
---- This one is confusing. Did you mean to make this cost and forgot to use the semi-colon (instead you put a comma) or are you meaning to target the DARK Material at resolution and if you are doing that, why are you putting the Level-Decrease part as an "Then..." factor as if you did another effect already? That should say "to" for sure then. Also, your wording at the end still needs changes. It should say "...decrease this card's Level by an amount equal to twice the target's Level." It's either "Once per turn: You can target 1 "DARK Material" monster you control; Decrease this card's Level by an amount equal to twice that target's Level." -OR- "Once per turn: You can target 1 "DARK Material" monster you control to decrease this card's Level by an amount equal to twice that target's Level."


* DARK Tuner Maelki Vae *

-- "You can Normal Summon/Set this card without a Tribute." (again)
-- See above on the "Target 1 "DARK Material" monster..." problem.


* DARK Material Carveila *

-- The first effect says "Summoned". So you want the effect to activate when Flip Summoned as well as when Normal Summoned or Special Summoned? Since that's what you basically put. So I could Normal Summon the card and get a DARK monster, than use Book of Moon so I can Flip Summon it later and get another DARK monster. Through various combinations I could do that during the same turn to get 2 DARKs to my hand. If you are allowing that, that's fine, just wanted to make sure you're clear on that. If you are, then no change at all is needed.


* DARK Material Hoaj *

-- It would be less redundant and proper to say one of the following 3 versions (I would suggest Version 3):
1: "...you can Normal Summon 1 additional "DARK" monster." (End)
2: "...you can additionally Normal Summon 1 "DARK" monster." (End)
3: "...you can Normal Summon 1 additional "DARK" monster as an Extra Normal Summon this turn." (End)
-- You don't need that last line at all unless you mean you can't use the same effect with OTHER copies of the card (remember the effect only activates when you Normal Summon it, so Book of Moon tricks and such don't work and bouncing it back to your hand or resurrecting it would be another rule entirely). So the line would be "This effect of "DARK Material Hoaj" can only activate once per turn." Also, you wouldn't say "gain", since there's no way you would be able to repeat the effect in the first place while its on the field because AGAIN it was a Summon-Trigger effect that happens when itself was Summoned. It would be like putting that on a Monarch...


* DARK Material Kanmet *

-- Again, I ask if you meant to include Flip Summons.
-- Also with that same line, you forgot the colon ( : ). That's definitely a trigger effect.
-- Next line needs to be more specific and proper. "When a card activates an effect (or a card effect activates) that would destroy a "DARK" monster(s) you control: " And no "card effect activates" by itself would not be the same thing either because that would mean you can't use your card against a card that itself was just activating. Reference: [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/My_Body_as_a_Shield"]My Body as a Shield[/url][/b]




* DARK Material Nayal *

-- In the first line, replace the colon with a semi-colon. You're paying a cost.


*DARK Material Solflora *

-- "...sends it to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon..." (you keep losing it with this Condition : Cost ; Effect thing.)


* DARK Material Sombreo *

-- "...Spell/Trap Card on the field; Destroy that target..." (semi-colon)


* DARK Synchro Sigro *

-- First line should be "Must be Synchro Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways." (Reference: [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Errata:Dark_Paladin"]Dark Paladin[/url][/b], with the updated text courtesy of Legendary Collection 3)
-- I think I've brought up this not-using-colons-and-semi-colons thing quite a bit for you to get the point of going back and checking your word, let's just assume you'll go and look at ALL of your work from here on out to fix all that.
-- "Once per turn (during your Main Phase): You can target 1 other monster on the field; During this turn, when that target leaves the field, inflict damage to your opponent equal to its original ATK."


* DARK Synchro Androdeus *

-- (See problems from above card)
-- Correction and change: "If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card does: You can Special Summon 1 "DARK" monster from your Graveyard with ATK equal to or less than the amount of damage inflicted."
-- I changed it in my correction from "When" to "If" because this effect activates in the middle of battle in the middle of damage step/calculation, which is a RULING MAELSTROM FROM HELL to even attempt to wade through, let alone to be trying to determine when to activate an optional effect during battle. At least "If" while still optional in this card (because you put "you can", still allows it to happen no matter what and it just happens after everything is gone through as opposed to "When" which has to happen AT THE MOMENT the damage happens, which is Damage Step/Damage Application, which is a danger zone to attempt since it has to be the last thing to happen, and things do like to happen when battle damage is inflicted, doesn't it?


* DARK Synchro Magellos Graeos *

-- Some previously mentioned problems apply.
-- "Target 1 monster on the field and its ATK becomes 0." (you are choosing at resolution and the effect takes places with the targeting. It's not two effects.)
-- "When this card leaves the field: You can return all of your banished "DARK" monsters to the Graveyard." (Not a continuous effect and shouldn't try to make it into one).



So by the time I actually got done with all that, you don't leave me a lot of energy to actually comment on any of it. I have to ask how long did you work on these, given how inconsistent it is with grammar and proper wording and capitalizations. These aren't things you have necessarily shown a problem with as far as what I have seen before.

I will only comment on the last Dark Synchro, since its negation effect is a little similar to one of my own Dark Synchros, except mine was permanent, continuous and applies in a very different way. Also, the same card was more than just a Dark Synchro.

Not sure how well this version of your Dark Tuners would fair in a real duel, what other cards (real or otherwise) would you have in the Deck with them? I can see your version as being a little much like the Sacred (TCG: Constellars) in that they mostly just summon each other and manipulate levels, so that you can get to the bigger monsters in the Extra Deck that have actual battle-winning effects.

My own version of how to achieve the Dark Tuners and Dark Synchros (more the Dark Tuners since we have Dark Synchros in the real game now) are very different from your version; probably easier to use mine in real life (due to the mechanic I'm using) or even splash them into some decks as well. I might just go ahead and post some of mine into my 5D's thread for you to see.

[Sora1499]

@Shinobi
Wow, you win the pedantic award of the day. Props to you. I actually whipped em up pretty quickly, over the course of 3 days, disregarding OCG and instead focusing on card design. Normally I make a set over the course of a week or so, leave it alone for 2 weeks, go back and edit it, leave it alone for another week, and then make any final tweaks before I post it. And I can see quillbolt hedgehog being teched in, but this is an archetype, and a particularly self-contained one. It's not so much a direct reflection of the anime's mechanic as it is a tribute to the awesomeness that were the Dark Synchros of 5Ds. If I have a request to make a Dark Tuner and A Dark Synchro that could be used individually or as techs, maybe I'll fulfill it. But in the meantime, I'd love to see yours!

[Shinobi Phoenix]

Ok, so I'll be posting in my 5D's Legacy thread with some of my Dark Tuners and Dark Synchros and an explanation of my version of the mechanic, maybe that will give you some ideas.

Shame I can't rightfully post my remakes of the DarkTuners from the anime, since they weren't released and aren't playable except in Tag Force. I used my own mechanics to rework them and they came out better than I even imagined.