Alpakha Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I've been meaning to try it, but I honestly don't know a thing about them. I read some guides, but they weren't very detailed. Any help is appreciated. [img]http://i.imgur.com/22QRY.png[/img] [size=6][spoiler=A Few Stupid Questions][/size] -Can Tensen and Tenken be activated during damage calculation?[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 1) Yes you can use a Firedance spell card that was set from the deck by one of the Firestar monsters. 2) You're monster line up seems bulky in the picture, ideally you should be running 14 - 16 monsters no more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Your*, you said you are (these things bother me, sorry). 1) Oh cool, thx. 2) What do you suggest I should take out or add in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'd suggest the following line up. 3 Ryushin. 3 Ensho. 3 Yushi. 2 Maxx C. 2 Effect Veiler. 1 Sunerin. 2 Barbaros. (optional if you're going to use skill drain.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Seiven is more or less superior to the other guy. I'd take the other guy out. What are you trying to block with Forbidden Lance? Dimensional Prison? Bottomless Trap Hole? If it's something you can block with Forbidden Dress, I'd suggest that instead so you don't cut your own boosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1352481369' post='6064825'] Seiven is more or less superior to the[u] other guy. I'd take the other guy out.[/u] [/quote] Be more specific please. Do you mean Hawkei?Also, should I add in a Horn of the Phantom Beast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='SpectralMaliceX' timestamp='1352459304' post='6064575'] 1 Sunerin. [/quote] Also, what is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='AznKvn' timestamp='1352522357' post='6065158'] Be more specific please. Do you mean Hawkei? Also, should I add in a Horn of the Phantom Beast? [/quote] Yeah, Hawkei, couldn't be buggered to look it up. No, Horn is great but kinda cloggy with this Archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1348683920' post='6032594'] No, neither player can activate a card before a Draw Phase's Draw. Yes, you can respond to your own Draw Phase draw first by activating a Spell Speed 2 effect, including a Quick-Play Spell you just drew. This is a big reason why were so many issues with Trap Dustshoot on DN where people didn't seem to understand this ruling. I answered the original question in my original response o.o Chain Link #1: Firedance - Tensu Chain Link #2: Light and Darkness Dragon Resolving... Chain Link #2: Light and Darkness Dragon negates the activation of Firedance - Tensu. Firedance - Tensu is sent to the Graveyard. Chain Link #1: Firedance - Tensu's activation was negated. I have an issue with the current wording of the card, but regardless of it, the situation would remain the same. If "Minute Firestar - Ryushishin"'s first effect is a Trigger Effect, then it would need to say "If... you can", not "When... you can", otherwise it would miss the timing 100% of the time. Trigger Effects are Spell Speed 1 so you wouldn't have the right to activate it in chain to "Firedance - Tensu"'s activation, hence why it would miss the timing 100% of the time with the current wording, assuming its a Trigger Effect. If the wording became "If... you can", then you'd be able to activate "Minute Firestar - Ryushishin's" effect after the chain in which a "Firedance" Spell/Trap card has resolved, which if LaDD negates the activation will not happen. If "Minute Firestar - Ryushishin"'s first effect is a Quick Effect, then it will need to chain directly to the activation of the "Flaming Dance" Spell/Trap Card. Since LaDD will automatically be Chain Link #2, you would not be able to activate "Minute Firestar - Ryushishin". So in either scenario, depending on what the final translation of the wording is, you would not win against LaDD. No. When you activate an effect that starts a chain, priority to respond shifts to the opponent. He'll get to activate an effect first in response to "Firedance - Tenken's" activation. In this case, LaDD will forcibly take that spot anyway, regardless of which player controls it. Either way, Minute Flaming Star - Ryushishin is currently listed as a Trigger Effect, so it should probably say "If... you can". You would always need to wait for the chain where a "Firedance" Spell/Trap card was activated (and where the activation isn't negated) to resolve before you can activate "Minute Firestar - Ryushishin". [/quote] Ryushinshin's Lore has been updated and it states "Once per turn, if a "Firedance" Spell/Trap Card is activated". The IF part is what is stated here, so it no longer misses the timing. Also, if a Firedance Continuous, Normal, or any other type of Spell Card (except Quick-Play) is set, you can activate it during that same turn. For your build...update the pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 It is updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 not sure if dueling network has it yet but flaming stars love wolfbark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [s]Wolfbark? Link please[/s] Name of it is Wolfberk, dn doesn't have yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Dn Has wolfberk... I... love... it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I knew you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Deck has been working pretty well, but any more suggestions? I haven't been able to test our chicken yet, is it worth the deck space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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