Guest - Neo - Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It makes me so happy to know I'm not alone on that. Everything was so personal with him, and it just felt way too restrictive here. I thought I might have been the only one who thought that, I rarely hear anything negative about Icy. x-x Well, keep in mind I've known Icy since 2008, and we actually used to get along really well. Then he started being way too personal and pushing his personal opinions on me even in like MSN chats and stuff and it got to be really obnoxious because I'm not the type of person to take that kind of thing from anyone, IRL or online. Sure, I'm hardly active anymore except in RC/Creative Writing because I've got a girl and a job and college now, but like it'd be impossible for me to say that I actually like the guy. Sure, he was a brilliant card maker, but that was about it. But regardless, I wonder when Mikhail's planning on posting the new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I've got a girlBesides star accidentally doubleposting, this was the most important thing I read in that post... jk, and yeah, I did get that sort of feel from Icy on the Skype chats I had with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest - Neo - Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Almost three years together, brah. Though we've separated a few times. But yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Almost three years together, brah. Though we've separated a few times.I'm sure I knew that already, but I can't help but point it out everytime it comes up again. Dunno why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I didn't mean to sound insensitive if I did Neo. ^^'' I saw him on DMG every now and again, and he always seemed kinda... Cold to me. I didn't care much for him ^^'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. A. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 JoshIcy is the most... No. I am done ranting about him. I don't like him and I never will and I will leave it as that. Moving on could we possibly discuss my idea of a "Point Fine System"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I missed that idea. What exactly is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. A. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Basically along with warns we could fine people who break the rules a certain amount of points. Since points are important again I feel it would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It's a good idea. I've always liked the idea of an economy on YCM, although the trouble is that it gives moderators even more power as they have unlimited wealth. I think points need to be a little more important than they are now, even, for such an idea to be successful. It's an excellent one to have at a moment's notice, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Machismo!!!!! Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Basically along with warns we could fine people who break the rules a certain amount of points. Since points are important again I feel it would be a good idea. You mean like post-locking them, but they can bail by paying [x] points? Like, 20% of the user's points. Ex: I currently have 16,648 points, so if I put it in the calculator right, I would have to pay 3330 points (rounded to nearest whole number) to Mikhail to get unpost-locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. A. Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 You mean like post-locking them, but they can bail by paying [x] points? Like, 20% of the user's points. Ex: I currently have 16,648 points, so if I put it in the calculator right, I would have to pay 3330 points (rounded to nearest whole number) to get unpost-locked.Scrap the idea. Making points too valuable could set the balance extremely high in the Mod's favor. It could turn out bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It creates an oligarchy because the mods have all the wealth. If you were a corrupt mod, you could just give your friends huge amounts of money on a whim. For instance, I have just made Mr. A the fourth richest member on the entire site. Imagine if mods kept making back-handed payments like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultramacus Dumaiacus Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It creates an oligarchy because the mods have all the wealth. If you were a corrupt mod, you could just give your friends huge amounts of money on a whim. For instance, I have just made Mr. A the fourth richest member on the entire site. Imagine if mods kept making back-handed payments like that.Wall Street clashes with YCM... Oh God what was I thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Wall Street clashes with YCM... Oh God what was I thinking? Well...it was a good thought on paper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultramacus Dumaiacus Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Well...it was a good thought on paper...That enough is true. Perhaps we could try something different... What however? Warns seem to do the job but not completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 That enough is true. Perhaps we could try something different... What however? Warns seem to do the job but not completely. Is there a way we can restrict people from posting in certain areas? If so, maybe include a 24 hour ban that stops people from posting in the area they got in trouble for when they receive their second warn? First though that popped into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Fun fact: People are more likely to do risky things when faced with the chance of losing something, and are more likely to stay the course when given a chance of gaining something of the same amount. Though I'd say for this case, it may be best to offer more reward for following the rules than penalties for breaking it as it may keep more people within the section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultramacus Dumaiacus Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Fun fact: People are more likely to do risky things when faced with the chance of losing something, and are more likely to stay the course when given a chance of gaining something of the same amount. Though I'd say for this case, it may be best to offer more reward for following the rules than penalties for breaking it as it may keep more people within the section.GENIUS AGRO! I was just learning in my Economics Honors class about Incentives. We should try that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Agro makes a fine point. Oh! Idea! At the end of each month, members who have not received a SINGLE warn could receive...maybe 2,000 points? Of course the amount could be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Oh! Idea! At the end of each month, members who have not received a SINGLE warn could receive...maybe 2,000 points? Of course the amount could be changed.The question is if we can make points be enough of an incentive. I certainly could care less about 2,000 points. The issue we have to take with that is that if we keep bumping the point total up, will it eventually be too many points? Is there a happy medium in all this? Or is there a better incentive we can give for those who follow the rules? That can also be partially alleviated by finding a way to make points matter more than they currently do. That may either require someone to find new things to put in the shop or, probably more likely, and more reasonably, ask all Graphics shops and requests, as well as card contests, to require points to be paid for their services. (perhaps there should be other places where a requirement like this must be met) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Giving points more value on the forum may be our best course of action, unless someone can think of a better incentive? But if we took start charging people points for certain actions, we would have to find a "fair" set price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultramacus Dumaiacus Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Maybe, once a year. We find out who has posted the most Topics, and posted the most, with no warns and give them a free name change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caeda Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Honestly, maybe it's just me, I don't care how many points you offer. Points don't do much, aside from name changes to me, and we really need more shop items. A lottery is cool, but it doesn't give much of anything, especially if you have terrible luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 That's an interesting start Mr. A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Giving points more value on the forum may be our best course of action, unless someone can think of a better incentive? But if we took start charging people points for certain actions, we would have to find a "fair" set price.Invisible hand of the free market, my friend. People will decide a fair price after a little while of working on it. If members feel that the price is too high for the amount of work put in, a moderator can also step in to slap some wrists. Honestly, maybe it's just me, I don't care how many points you offer. Points don't do much, aside from name changes to me, and we really need more shop items. A lottery is cool, but it doesn't give much of anything, especially if you have terrible luck.I don't like a lottery system at all either. People don't really like to follow something if they are given a small percentage chance of getting something out of it. Perhaps the incentive could be given no matter how many people don't get warned. It's a common fact that guarantees are much more effective than even a 90% chance of winning something, even if the 90% chance is in all likelihood, going to give you more of a reward. Of course, in that case, we don't want to make it too high of a point total. Too many people having too many points would cause an unfortunate inflation... and we don't want inflation -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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