Miror B Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Maybe but then I can't draw as much, which is what I don't want.You don't run Upstart just for a draw, you run Upstart because it lessens the size of your deck statistically.Think about it. You draw Upstart, then drop it and draw that next card. What if you hadn't been running that Upstart in the first place? You would've just drawn the next card without giving your opponent 1000 Life Points.Cards like DWD and Dragged Down are run because they draw and discard your monsters for their effects, which is why their good. Upstart is only done for the deckthinning, which the deck is thinned just as much by not running the upstart and leaving that slot empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 You don't run Upstart just for a draw, you run Upstart because it lessens the size of your deck statistically.Think about it. You draw Upstart, then drop it and draw that next card. What if you hadn't been running that Upstart in the first place? You would've just drawn the next card without giving your opponent 1000 Life Points.Cards like DWD and Dragged Down are run because they draw and discard your monsters for their effects, which is why their good. Upstart is only done for the deckthinning, which the deck is thinned just as much by not running the upstart and leaving that slot empty.that's not how I think of it, and my deck is thinned enough as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Fine then but ask anyone else here and they'll very likely tell you what I've told you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Fine then but ask anyone else here and they'll very likely tell you what I've told you.sure, I will play with only 1 for a while, see if it works out for me, though as I said, I have hardly lost any with the current build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'd at least Drop Avarice and Mirror Force for 40 cards and run 3 Upstarts. As I said, with The Gates banishing your monsters, you shouldn't have 5 in your Grave for Avarice. And Mirror Force is useful, but Torrential is preferred. Mirror Force can be sided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'd at least Drop Avarice and Mirror Force for 40 cards and run 3 Upstarts. As I said, with The Gates banishing your monsters, you shouldn't have 5 in your Grave for Avarice. And Mirror Force is useful, but Torrential is preferred. Mirror Force can be sided.maybe, but I'll go with his advice EDIT: Macro Cross, how does one get rid off this thing the best? I don't want to add a shitton of stuff just to prevend it, I got it twice just right after each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ♥ D.A._Siegfried ♥ Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 maybe, but I'll go with his advice EDIT: Macro Cross, how does one get rid off this thing the best? I don't want to add a shitton of stuff just to prevend it, I got it twice just right after each other. For Macro you side in Imperial Iron Wall or Royal Decree for game 2 and 3. Both have draw backs but are better then the alternative of facing Macro head on. Also, Meta's logic behind Upstart of goblin is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 maybe, but I'll go with his advice EDIT: Macro Cross, how does one get rid off this thing the best? I don't want to add a shitton of stuff just to prevend it, I got it twice just right after each other. "a whole bunch of things" there are literally two cards that stop macro and you dont even need to run both of them. admittedly in your deck they both have some drawbacks but really now. imperial is probably the safer choice usually because you shouldnt be using allure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 maybe, but I'll go with his advice EDIT: Macro Cross, how does one get rid off this thing the best? I don't want to add a shitton of stuff just to prevend it, I got it twice just right after each other.Sidedeck MSTs and Twisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I am gonna switch allure with imperial. EDIT: wait what? Why the hell would you want that, it totaly fucks with Gates and Leviair, I'm not gonna use that. Instead, I am gonna use Royal Defence, that also negates all other traps which I don't have that much of a need for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 If you run decree, you can't run reckless, and reckless is the main engine of DWs. Side triple MST and maybe dark bribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Every second I spend reading this thread, my brain rots exponentially more. Run Twisters and Dust Tornados if you're worried about opponent's continuous Spells and Traps. Royal Decree will hurt you more than it will help you. Also, stop posting your updated deck in a new post and edit the original post with it. Everyone's definitely getting a bit annoyed by having to search and search for your new build when they could easily just find it in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 @Agro (slow clap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Every second I spend reading this thread, my brain rots exponentially more.Run Twisters and Dust Tornados if you're worried about opponent's continuous Spells and Traps.Royal Decree will hurt you more than it will help you.Also, stop posting your updated deck in a new post and edit the original post with it. Everyone's definitely getting a bit annoyed by having to search and search for your new build when they could easily just find it in the first post.sure, you can say that but then the other dude will be all like "OH NOES MORE THAN 40 CARDS" again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 sure, you can say that but then the other dude will be all like "OH NOES MORE THAN 40 CARDS" again.1. You side the twisters and dust tornados, you don't main them.2. what the f*** are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 1. You side the twisters and dust tornados, you don't main them.2. what the f*** are you talking about?Meta~ wants me to have 40 cards always. That means that I have to only have 1 upstart. I also have sided those, btw. I updated the first page since I see your point, go check that out if you want the newest version or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Why would you side Upstart? You don't side consistency. Also, with relation to the edited OP: -2 Decree+2 Reckless -1 MST (to side deck)+1 Malefic Stardust Dragon -1 whatever is after Dragged Down-1 Sillva+1 Torrential Tribute+1 Skill Drain/Starlight Road -1 Zenmaines-1 Leviair+2 Stardust Dragon Side Deck Stuff:The only things currently in your side that you should keep: MSTs, Gozen Match (and add another), Deck Devi (add another and an Eradicator Epidermic Virus), and perhaps the dust tornados, but only like 2 if any. Add 1 skill drain unless you put 2 in the deck. A second Mind Crush would do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I hate stardust and will never use it, the end you can't make me sorry.The card is Final Gesture, and I'm not taking it out.also you pretty disagree on everything, sometimes you want more draw power, sometimes you want more discards of your opponent.why would you take Leviair out, it's a monster in this deck. Edited the deck, but I'm gonna side Stardust cause I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I hate stardust and will never use it, the end you can't make me sorry.The card is Final Gesture, and I'm not taking it out.also you pretty disagree on everything, sometimes you want more draw power, sometimes you want more discards of your opponent.why would you take Leviair out, it's a monster in this deck. Edited the deck, but I'm gonna side Stardust cause I hate it.Stardust is a must have if you intend to play the game. Whether you like it or not. Don't make changes on how you feel about a certain card unless it's because it's not going to help the deck. Don't leave out a card that makes your deck better just because "you hate it". Least of all by saying something dumb like that in a Deck Section that has a specific purpose of making your deck competitive. Side Final Gesture if you want it for some ungodly sentimental reason. And I'm telling you to use the good draw power and have not told you to take out good cards that discard. Reckless is a must have @3 in Dark Worlds and there is no argument to that. What I've done with my changes is give you speed and control while eliminating cards that just get in the way of that.And you have one Leviair. You're not going to use 2 in this deck. EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Stardust is a must have if you intend to play the game. Whether you like it or not. Don't make changes on how you feel about a certain card unless it's because it's not going to help the deck. Don't leave out a card that makes your deck better just because "you hate it". Least of all by saying something dumb like that in a Deck Section that has a specific purpose of making your deck competitive. Side Final Gesture if you want it for some ungodly sentimental reason. And I'm telling you to use the good draw power and have not told you to take out good cards that discard. Reckless is a must have @3 in Dark Worlds and there is no argument to that. What I've done with my changes is give you speed and control while eliminating cards that just get in the way of that.And you have one Leviair. You're not going to use 2 in this deck. EVER.Tch what ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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