Skymiles Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 This is another look at a card that is part of the set I am making. (Battalion Vs Anti-battalion) NOTE: The effect may seem a little pointless at the moment but when it is used with other cards in the set it makes more sense. [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/2i7tt7m.jpg[/img] LORE: If this card's ATK or DEF is changed by the effect of a spell card you may discard 1 card from your hand to change the battle position of 1 monster on the field. If this card is destroyed as a result of battle it is banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I don't think it's worth playing... There aren't any cards that change ATK nor DEF in our meta, so its effect will probably never go off. On top of that, using the effect is a -1. It's also a tribute-summon monster... It's just too slow. I'd change the effect to "When this card's ATK changes: You can discard 1 card; destroy 1 monster on the field.". Now its a +0, but I still don't think it'll see use even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymiles Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 If you combine this card with others in the set it has a purpose. But I guess that won't be evident until I post the whole set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrisis Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356289385' post='6100169'] I don't think it's worth playing... There aren't any cards that change ATK nor DEF in our meta, so it's effect will probably never go off. On top of that, using the effect is a -1. It's also a tribute-summon monster... It's just too slow. I'd change the effect to "When this cards ATK changes: You can discard 1 card; destroy 1 monster on the field.". Not its a +0, but I still don't think it'll see use even then. [/quote] Not only do most decks not use tribute summoning But the decks that do don't use spells that alter ATK or DEF.enough to make it useful. There ARE cards (Lance..?) That change it during our meta, I disagree with that statement by you sora, but otherwise I completely agree with your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymiles Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Nobody ever reads the notes. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='drcrisis' timestamp='1356290101' post='6100182'] Not only do most decks not use tribute summoning But the decks that do don't use spells that alter ATK or DEF.enough to make it useful. There ARE cards (Lance..?) That change it during our meta, I disagree with that statement by you sora, but otherwise I completely agree with your point [/quote] Oh crap, I totally forgot about Lance, thanks crisis. Regardless, lancing this guy to get his effect off is a -2 on a monster that is a -1 to summon. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymiles Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Once again, read the NOTE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Remnants Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Skymiles' timestamp='1356299181' post='6100328'] Once again, read the NOTE! [/quote] Maybe you should try posting some of the other cards in the archetype so people can see what exactly you're hinting at. None of us here can see into the future, so there's no way for us to know if the other cards in your archetype will actually make this card playable or not. You only posted the one card, so don't get all whiny when people critique it. With that out of the way, I have to say I agree with Sora. I'm not exactly sure what lance is, but this card just does not stack up with other cards currently in the meta. It's effect is so situational, and at best it is a -2 on the turn it is summoned, -1 on any other turn, assuming it can live that long. Plus, getting banished after death doesn't seem useful in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Remnants' timestamp='1356300629' post='6100341'] I'm not exactly sure what lance is [/quote] It's this: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Forbidden_Lance Lance is a fantastic card and definitely meta, but using lance on this to get the effect off is just plain stupid. There's a lot more you can do with a lance and a 22 beater than a mediocre -1 effect. [quote name='Remnants' timestamp='1356300629' post='6100341'] Maybe you should try posting some of the other cards in the archetype so people can see what exactly you're hinting at. None of us here can see into the future, so there's no way for us to know if the other cards in your archetype will actually make this card playable or not. You only posted the one card, so don't get all whiny when people critique it. [/quote] This. Also, I don't really see how you can make support for this card without either making it inconsistent, slow, minus-y, all of the above, or broken as hell. The concept's just too fragile. If you really want to convince us that this card is worth using, then just show us the goddamn archetype instead of assuming that we'll jump to the conclusion that your support for it will actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymiles Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Woah guys, calm down. The thing I made a mistake writing the note. I was going to completely explain the archetype in another topic but my internet screwed up and the topic was never posted. I was under the impression that I explained the topic in this thread but it turns out I haven't. Still, looking back on the set, I think I will scrap it and make something simpler. As you said, it is too fragile. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Skymiles' timestamp='1356306662' post='6100435'] Woah guys, calm down. The thing I made a mistake writing the note. I was going to completely explain the archetype in another topic but my internet screwed up and the topic was never posted. I was under the impression that I explained the topic in this thread but it turns out I haven't. Still, looking back on the set, I think I will scrap it and make something simpler. As you said, it is too fragile. Apologies. [/quote] No, I should be the one apologizing. I'm sorry if it seemed like I got angry, I didn't mean any ill feelings. Friendzies? ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Remnants Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I only ever comment in this forum to try and improve others' cardmaking. If my comments seem harsh, it is only because the truth often does hurt. I do hope you continue to make cards, because we do need innovative thinkers here to make cards worthy of critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skymiles Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356306956' post='6100440'] No, I should be the one apologizing. I'm sorry if it seemed like I got angry, I didn't mean any ill feelings. Friendzies? ^-^ [/quote] Forgive and forget I always say. I just came back to Yugioh fron a one and a half year hiatus so I'm a bit rusty on how the game has changed. It took me a while to accept GX but now Zexal? I don't even know how to Xyz summon. Heh heh.[quote name='Remnants' timestamp='1356307282' post='6100444'] I only ever comment in this forum to try and improve others' cardmaking. If my comments seem harsh, it is only because the truth often does hurt. I do hope you continue to make cards, because we do need innovative thinkers here to make cards worthy of critique. [/quote] I amost completely skipped 5Ds and I'm not used to Zexal. I need to read up and get up to date with the game. My brain is stuck in GX mode. Plus, sometimes I try to make things complex and step over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.