~Shin~ Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 ATK was changed from 1700 to 1550 [spoiler=OK, FINE, I will tell you what is inside, it's the card effect.]This card cannot be targeted by cards and effects. If this face-up Attack Position card attacks or is attacked: You can target 1 level 3 or lower monster in your Graveyard; skip the Damage Step and flip this card into face-down Defence Position, and if you do, Special Summon that target in face-down Defence Position. Until the End Phase, this card and that target cannot be attacked. You can only use this effect of "Summoner Dwarf" once per turn.[/spoiler] The reason this flips itself and SS in face-down is that I want it to be more of a flip/tribut support than a spam support... you guys will hate for that, wouldn't you? Also, thoughts on changing this to EARTH? ------------------------------ CnC Reps and hearts ------------------------------ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 This is actually a pretty neat card, making your opponent think twice about what to attack with and bringing back your little guys for more shenanigans in a fairly balanced way. The only problem I can foresee is if you control multiples of these, turning the gamestate into a wally spamfest, so I'd add a "You can only use this effect of 'Summoner Dwarf' once per turn" clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shin~ Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Oh, never thought of that, will add the clause. Still, TBH, I want this to be trolly. :P Here is your ❤ and rep. - Added a OPT clause. - Added a battle position condition to the second effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 OCG fix: Flip this card into face-down Defense Position, then/and if you do, Special Summon that target in face-down Defense Position. The then/and is for if you want simultaneous action or one after the other. Either way the summon relies on Dwarf being flipped face down. Now let's start the review portion: It's awkward, but cool idea, but also probably too generic for its own good. Using this with one of those cards that forces attacking can really screw with the opponent while you freely getting a monster from the grave. You say it's for tribute support, but there's nothing stopping people from just flipping them your next turn and Xyz'ing or Synchroing, or using the face-down guy's effect the next turn. I'd suggest flipping the Dwarf face-down to make your-turn plays less likely, but keeping the summoned monster face-up with an effect negation clause. This'll prevent outright Attack > M2 > Rank 3, but also keep from abusing the monster effects of the guy summoned. Possibly my last issue is the 1700 ATK. For a lvl 3, that's pretty darn bulky, and while I know 1700 isn't the best attack out there, I feel it might be too much for a Lvl 3. Also, any specific reason why it's LIGHT? Dwarfs strike me as more EARTH monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shin~ Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I already got attack manipulation covered with the first effect. With the way this card works, it is difficult to use it (or whatever it SSed) as material. Your opponent would only attack when they have a follow up. Then comes your turn, all this card can do is give you 2 face-down monsters, which you can not flip face-up, because during that turn one of them attacked and the other was summoned. Would any of these 2 make it through your opponent's turn? As for flip effects, the way I see it, the grave set up, lack unpredictability and this taking a turn's NS are enough of drawback. I do not want to take it under 1500 (because searchers and what not), plus if its effect gets negated, I would not like a player to get all that much damage from it or for it to be ran over easily. But I guess I can make it 1550, and leave effect negation as a -bigger- drawback... It's LIGHT because of Naturia & Melia, unless it is fine even with those? I realy don't know... Thank you, here are the ❤ and rep. - OCG reworked. - ATK is 1550 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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