R3mixKillah Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Enforcer of Demonic Laws Rank 7/ Fiend-Type/ FIRE/ ATK 3200/ DEF 2500 Xyz / Effect 3 level 7 monsters When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then return it's Xyz materials to the deck. When you activate this effect, If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead until your opponents End Phase. During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of the Xyz materials used for the Xyz Summon of this card (This Special Summon cannot be negated). If you control no cards; Special Summon this card (This Special Summon cannot be negated) and it gains the following effect: • Once only, if you have a level 7 monster in your banished zone, you can Special Summon 1 banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000. It cannot attack directly. When this card leaves the field; banish that monster. You can only Xyz Summon 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" per duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3mixKillah Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 The effect seem a bit confusing, what should be its role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3mixKillah Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 The effect seem a bit confusing, what should be its role? its simply an effect that can either wall your opponent, or push for game,(although i dont think it can do either effectively). I know it's pretty confusing. In all honesty, i came up with this card rather spontaneously and i didn't seem to rethink it's effect and its uses before posting it. However i did want to see how good it will come out as a 3-mat rank 7 since there's only lucky straight and that other random one that i dont recall it ever coming out to TCG yet. If you want me to break down each effect individually i can for you. First Effect: When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then banish all of its Xyz materials. When you activate this effect, If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead until your opponents next End Phase. During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of the Xyz materials used for the Xyz Summon of this card (This Special Summon cannot be negated), then you can Special Summon monsters whose total levels become equal to the Special Summoned monsters level. Second Effect: If there are no cards on your side of the field; Special Summon this card, THEN, it gains the following effect: • Once only, if you have a level 7 monster in your banished zone, you can Special Summon 1 banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000. It cannot attack directly. When this card leaves the field; banish it (meaning that special summoned monster). You can only Xyz Summon 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" per duel. I bolded, italicized, and underlined certain parts of the effect that you should take note of when thinking of them individually, and as a whole. I probably have some OCG errors so maybe a higher leveled or more intelligent yugioh player can correct it. I hope this helps you to understand and feel free to ask me anymore questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 ...this sounds way too much like Dragon Ruler OP'd support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3mixKillah Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 ...this sounds way too much like Dragon Ruler OP'd support... It does, but your not giving enough information as to how. The thing about this card is is that its a 3-mat rank 7. Usually if your already able to get out two of the e.drags than you might as well go for either big-eye or dracosack over this. I feel like this card is more of a last resort/push for game kind of card and would probably not even be run as much in the e.drags deck. However i know where your coming from and i assume what makes it broken is the SS in the first effect. Maybe i should make a clause so that monsters whose original level is 7 cannot be SS'd. or just take out the part completely and come up with a new one? i dont know, thats why you guys are here to CC. That 1 sentence doesn't really cut it cuz it gives very little information other than the straightforward statement. So please refrain from saying stuff like that without backing it up. These types of comments goes nowhere and it doesn't help me improve my card making skills at all. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Sorry, couldn't put a full discription about your card but its not only that... It's 10x worse: First: "When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then banish all of its Xyz materials." This is an automatic 3 Dragon search because the Dragon Rulers get to search a Dragon-type Monster with their attribute when it's Banished. (And yea, it's easy to SS a Dragon Ruler without SS'ing by its effect.) Next up: "When you activate this effect, If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead until your opponents next End Phase." This effect is annoying as its not just a Once per turn effect so it's annoying. But also leaves an easy opportunity to end the game. So that's so-so. Next: "During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of the Xyz materials used for the Xyz Summon of this card (This Special Summon cannot be negated), then you can Special Summon monsters whose total levels become equal to the Special Summoned monsters level." - This is basically a free Big Eye/Draccosack right away so now not only is it a Search 3 but now a Free Xyz Monster too! Next: "If there are no cards on your side of the field; Special Summon this card and it gains the following effect: • Once only, if you have a level 7 monster in your banished zone, you can Special Summon 1 banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000. It cannot attack directly." - First this doesn't work as it does not mentioned where its SS'd from. Next, this brings back any Banished Monster (like a Dragon Ruler) and gives it 3000 ATK but negates it's effect. Dragon Rulers love that! None of their effects except that it runs back to the hand during Opponent's End Phase activate on the Field. So they'll love it when this happens. Lastly "When this card leaves the field; banish it. You can only Xyz Summon 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" per duel." - The Summon Limitation is okay, but the When this card leaves Banish it doesn't seem needed. Why bother with it? Overall a Dragon Ruler player will love playing this, free searches, a Free Xyz then a free 3000 ATK beater? This could basically be their new win condition! If this was for LV8's it may be a bit of a different story as they don't have an OP theme connected with it. Now for the OCG Fix's: "When this card leaves the field; banish it. When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then banish all of its Xyz materials instead of sending them to the Graveyard. If you do, until your Opponent's next End Phase: If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead. During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of this card's Banished Xyz materials; This Special Summon cannot be negated, then you can Special Summon as many monster(s) up to the total levels equal to the Special Summoned monster. If you control no cards; Special Summon this card. If you do, it gains the following effect: • Once per game, if you have a Banished level 7 monster, you can Special Summon 1 Banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000 but It cannot attack directly. You can only have 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" in your Deck." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3mixKillah Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 First: "When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then banish all of its Xyz materials." This is an automatic 3 Dragon search because the Dragon Rulers get to search a Dragon-type Monster with their attribute when it's Banished. (And yea, it's easy to SS a Dragon Ruler without SS'ing by its effect.) That is actually a major concern and i''m too stupid to realize that. Thanks for noticing, i totally forgot the Dragon rulers had a search effect when their banished, or rather thought that the level 4 dragon rulers had that effect instead of the level 7's. Maybe i should make it so that the Xyz materials are returned to the deck instead? this way i can avoid dragon rulers SS'ing from grave and now petty search effect. Next up: "When you activate this effect, If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead until your opponents next End Phase." This effect is annoying as its not just a Once per turn effect so it's annoying. But also leaves an easy opportunity to end the game. So that's so-so. I dont understand your feedback on this, it's not once per turn because its once per duel-like since you can only bring this monster out once per duel. I do think that the "next" End Phase thing was too much, and make it only last 1 turn instead. Infact i shuld do that. Next: "During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of the Xyz materials used for the Xyz Summon of this card (This Special Summon cannot be negated), then you can Special Summon monsters whose total levels become equal to the Special Summoned monsters level." - This is basically a free Big Eye/Draccosack right away so now not only is it a Search 3 but now a Free Xyz Monster too! I think i addressed that situation (indirectly) in my last post about this part of the effect being too OP. I will create a clause stating that monsters whose levels are equal to the SS'd monster cannot be SS'd. This avoids xyz plays and since the SS of the smaller monsters HAS to equal the first monsters level than it's either a do or don't situation. Also since the lesser dragon rulers are now banned (as i see on DN). I don't know what could support this so i guess i could just take out the second SS completely until someone states its usefulness/potential OPness sooner or later. Lastly "When this card leaves the field; banish it. You can only Xyz Summon 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" per duel." - The Summon Limitation is okay, but the When this card leaves Banish it doesn't seem needed. Why bother with it? Not sure if that was unintentional OCG missplacement because the banishing effect does not affect Enforcer of Demonic laws, it affects the Special Summoned monster. In other words, " Once only, if you have a level 7 monster in your banished zone, you can Special Summon 1 banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000. It cannot attack directly. When this card leaves the field; banish the special summoned monster." maybe i should have specified it since you misunderstood as banishing itself rather than the Special Summoned monster. also i love how you skipped critizing that particular effect since it seems just as important as the other ones. Now for the OCG Fix's: "When this card leaves the field; banish it. When this card is Xyz Summoned, destroy it, then banish all of its Xyz materials instead of sending them to the Graveyard. If you do, until your Opponent's next End Phase: If your lifepoints would become 0 it becomes 100 instead. During your next Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 of this card's Banished Xyz materials; This Special Summon cannot be negated, then you can Special Summon as many monster(s) up to the total levels equal to the Special Summoned monster. If you control no cards; Special Summon this card. If you do, it gains the following effect: • Once per game, if you have a Banished level 7 monster, you can Special Summon 1 Banished monster; Negate its effect and its original ATK becomes 3000 but It cannot attack directly. You can only have 1 "Enforcer of Demonic Laws" in your Deck 1) I, for one, am not good at OCG, but i'm pretty sure the "instead of sending them to the graveyard" part of the effect is not needed since it already specifies that the Xyz materials are banished. 2) The "When this card leaves the field; banish it" is not the point as i stated in my above paragraph. It's part of the Once only effect that is affecting the SS'd monster. Not this original card. I could care less about the once per game, but i'm sure that was just an unnecessary replacement for duel. In conclusion you've helped me in my mistakes, and i'm glad you didn't give me suggestions. (I am an awkward member of this section because i feel like suggestions take away from the original posters thoughts and i feel like its being made by people), I rather like it when they just point out the mistakes and see if you can fix it on your own. Giving out suggestions just seems to boring as it doesn't really allow the original poster to think about what he did wrong with the card properly but thats just MY opinion. Your criticism was rather vague and there may have been mistakes/misunderstandings but you at least helped me understand how i should rework that card and i really appreciate it, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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licorso Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 i honestly think this is a good card, although confusing, i think you should change the summon requirements to 3 level 7 Dark-type monsters or Light-type monsters instead of changing the original effect, so people cant use dragon rulers as Xyz material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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