Neutrality Man Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yes, everyone and their grandmother would run this card in Spellbook Prophecy. Those people are what I like to call "assholes". You will however note this card is NOT a part of that god-forsaken archetype. I've done everything I can think of to make it usable in the same range of areas as A Cat of Ill Omen. If Traps can have A Cat of Ill Omen, Spells should be able to have this. Creese the Magical Librarian LIGHT Spellcaster / Tuner Level 3 FLIP: Select 1 Spell Card from your Deck and place it on top of your Deck. You can banish a Spellcaster-type monster from your hand to add the selected card to your hand instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 You can banish a Spellcaster-type monster from your hand to add the selected card to your hand instead. Hahaha what I really think there needs to be a more defined cost for this. with it as-is, you're restricting it to spellcaster decks, or banishing another/Droll & Lock/Whatever to activate that. I might just remove adding it directly to the hand altogether, really. Sacrificing a draw to get a gamewinning spell is still dangerous, but less so like that. Also, spells are a bit more...dangerous when it comes to searching, since you can use them right away and whatnot. I'm not really sure how to tweak this card to be not-abusable, but eh... EDIT: Wait it's a tuner whyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted January 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Well, the original cost was you revealed your hand and your opponent banished any three cards they wanted before you added to hand. Again, I modelled this after A Cat of Ill Omen. All I'm willing to change is the cost to hand-add... if a strong enough case is made for the Tuner status to be removed, I'll CONSIDER it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Get rid of it. Spell Searching is beyond broken, especially when you can just add it to your hand instead. If the card searches a spell, its going to need some SERIOUS repurcussions. The only other card I can think of that does something like this, is Dark Sage, and thats stupidly hard to get out. For good reason. Do we REALLY need a searcher for: Dark Hole Book of Moon Limiter Removal Heavy Storm (esp if it ever gets unbanned). DMoC and MoF were banned for a reason, and for a longgggg time (except mof, which /just/ came back), and they searched the /graveyard/ which is much much more balanced than searching the DECK. Especially when it comes to Spells. Plus, being a tuner, and having stupidly good defense for this kind of effect is just going too far. Scrap the card, its terrible. You should be slaughtered for even thinking of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Face Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Get rid of it. Spell Searching is beyond broken, especially when you can just add it to your hand instead. If the card searches a spell, its going to need some SERIOUS repurcussions. The only other card I can think of that does something like this, is Dark Sage, and thats stupidly hard to get out. For good reason. Do we REALLY need a searcher for: Dark Hole Book of Moon Limiter Removal Heavy Storm (esp if it ever gets unbanned). DMoC and MoF were banned for a reason, and for a longgggg time (except mof, which /just/ came back), and they searched the /graveyard/ which is much much more balanced than searching the DECK. Especially when it comes to Spells. Plus, being a tuner, and having stupidly good defense for this kind of effect is just going too far. Scrap the card, its terrible. You should be slaughtered for even thinking of this. at least it's not so terrible like that, the only single Spell may be powerful, but at least it's a single Spell, it cannot change the game by only itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 No, no, no. This card suffers from a lack of forethought (I won't just label it poorly-designed) but I certainly don't think you should be "slaughtered" for it. (Note to Dyson: We're on a forum for a card game based on a Japanese comic. Nothing anyone says or does here should be grounds for slaughter and you ought to to be ashamed of yourself for suggesting someone's life be ended because you don't like the card they created; grow the hell up.) Here's the thing: It's a splashable Level 3 Tuner. Sure, the Flip effect slows her down but the point is if you can resolve it, it's absurdly powerful. I can see that you tried to balance it with the second part about banishing specifically a Spellcaster for the add but I think you've forgotten that Effect Veiler is a Spellcaster. What better way to use a used up Veiler than to have it become a Spell searcher. It also searches ANY spell. Imagine what happens if something like Rekindling becomes searchable? Lavalsworn (which can run Spellcasters in the form of Lyla, Lumina, Veiler etc.) becomes the new meta and nobody wants that. I'd say retool the idea and maybe make it archetype specific or something. Removing the add and Tuner status also fix it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 No, no, no. This card suffers from a lack of forethought (I won't just label it poorly-designed) but I certainly don't think you should be "slaughtered" for it. (Note to Dyson: We're on a forum for a card game based on a Japanese comic. Nothing anyone says or does here should be grounds for slaughter and you ought to to be ashamed of yourself for suggesting someone's life be ended because you don't like the card they created; grow the hell up.) Here's the thing: It's a splashable Level 3 Tuner. Sure, the Flip effect slows her down but the point is if you can resolve it, it's absurdly powerful. I can see that you tried to balance it with the second part about banishing specifically a Spellcaster for the add but I think you've forgotten that Effect Veiler is a Spellcaster. What better way to use a used up Veiler than to have it become a Spell searcher. It also searches ANY spell. Imagine what happens if something like Rekindling becomes searchable? Lavalsworn (which can run Spellcasters in the form of Lyla, Lumina, Veiler etc.) becomes the new meta and nobody wants that. I'd say retool the idea and maybe make it archetype specific or something. Removing the add and Tuner status also fix it a bit.Except if Veiler is "used-up" he's in the Graveyard and thus can't be banished from the hand. Other than that, you make a fine argument. I'll go ahead make the add effect much harder. However I absolutely despise Archetype-specific cards and firmly believe archetypes have ruined the creative soul of the game. I really need to stop using the card maker drunk, but that's when most of my ideas come to me... what a conundrum. Anyway, sober retries: Bear in mind this is a Secret Rare, I'm trying to make it worth the money those seem to run for.[spoiler="Option 1, Specific card, Life Point cost, still lose your next Draw"][/spoiler][spoiler="Option 2, Specific card, Life point cost."][/spoiler][spoiler="Option 3, New Archetype needed: " Library" / "Librarian"s, LP cost"][/spoiler][spoiler="Option 4: The Original"][/spoiler]Option 5: What would YOU do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Given Cat of Ill Omens requires the field spell "Necrovalley", maybe you could go with something like requiring the Field Spell "Magic City Endymion"? iunno, something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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