iC RiskQ Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 These. So basically quick Rank 4 plays. Yada yada yada. What's up? [spoiler='Grace'] Cannot be Normal Summoned but can be set. You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by banishing 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard. You can only Summon 1 "Grace, Fallen Angel of Eternity" per turn. Once per turn: You can discard 1 monster from your hand; add 1 "Valerie, Fallen Angel of Catastrophe" from your Deck to your hand. [/spoiler] [spoiler='Valerie'] Cannot be Normal Summoned but can be set. You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard by banishing 1 LIGHT monster from your Graveyard. You can only Summon 1 "Valerie, Fallen Angel of Catastrophe" per turn. Once per turn: You can discard 1 monster from your hand; add 1 "Grace, Fallen Angel of Eternity" from your Deck to your hand. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic55 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 It could be abused in a Light and Dark deck built around xyz summoning. My deck is built around xyz summoning, just without dark and light monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 So how are these in any way superior or even that different to Wyverbuster and Collapserpent that we already have in the TCG? They don't really have a place in the real game to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Yamiegg Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 So how are these in any way superior or even that different to Wyverbuster and Collapserpent that we already have in the TCG? They don't really have a place in the real game to be honest. Because *splutter* THEY CAN BE FREAKING SUMMONED FROM THE FREAKING GRAVEYARD!! Chaosworns now have a viable Rk4 and Level 8 Synchro engine to make them even more dangerous (pure Lightsworns, Chaos Dragons, Lightsworn Rulers and Lightsworn Shadolls would have too, but they'd only use Valerie) and these gals even PROVIDE CONSTANT CHAOS FOOD FOR EACH OTHER by discard. If that's not bad enough, they can be used to Xyz Summon and STILL add more copies (which they don't even really need once you have one in Grave, but it's nice anyway). I can see Satellas, Star Seraphs, Hunders and heck, even Nobles, Constellars, Gravekeepers, Spirits, Infernities and Chronomalies running at least 1! This is a really poor design in which 30 seconds of work is evident; you have simply uber-buffed 2 existing and perfectly balanced cards. This is like Monster Reborn and Soul Charge. Enough of my complaints for now, but these are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iC RiskQ Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks for the feedback, but I did make these in 30 seconds so it's fine that I'm getting hate/dislikes on them. I kinda was expecting it too, so yeah. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMagicAttack94 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'm not sure what the fuss is about on summoning these cards from the Graveyard. Plenty of cards I've seen these days have effects that allow you to Special Summon a monster from the Graveyard. Heck, some card effects allow you to Special Summon a monster from anywhere other than the Banish Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Yamiegg Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I'm not sure what the fuss is about on summoning these cards from the Graveyard. Plenty of cards I've seen these days have effects that allow you to Special Summon a monster from the Graveyard. Heck, some card effects allow you to Special Summon a monster from anywhere other than the Banish Zone. But its basically a free monster each turn in Chaos decks, like Treeborn Frog only with increased utility, a place in many more decks than Frog, and no other restrictions. It's not the Summoning from Grave that counts; it's the reusable, restrictionless and therefore abusable nature of the Summon, plus the fact that it's an instant +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic55 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks for the feedback, but I did make these in 30 seconds so it's fine that I'm getting hate/dislikes on them. I kinda was expecting it too, so yeah. :/ Not hating, just stating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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