Master Hyperion Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Activate by tributing 1 Tuner and 1 non-Tuner monster you control; Special Summon any number of Level 4 or lower Synchro monsters from your Extra Deck whose combined Levels equal to the Level of the tributed monsters (The tributed monsters must still be the appropriate Synchro Material Monsters for those Synchro monsters). (This Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon.) Those monsters cannot be used as Synchro Materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemachu Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 This card might be a bit overpowered, as it basically bypasses the summoning restrictions of some powerful but "hard" to summon Synchro monsters ("Dark Divner", "The Fabled Unicore"). For example: you can summon "Masked Chameleon" and use it's effect to Special Summon "Steelswarm Caucastag", then use this card to summon cards like "Formula Synchron", "Puralis, the Purple Pyrolite", "Dark Diviner" and "The Fabled Unicore" (although I wonder whether someone would run all those cards together). This turned two cards from your hand and 1 card from your Graveyard into 4 cards on the field and lets you draw a card. Unless you are tributing "Formula Synchron" and "T.G. Hyper Lybrarian" for this card's effect, the artwork is incorrect ("T.G. Hyper Lybrarian" his Level is to high to be summoned). So let us assume you are tributing those cards. This is not to say the idea of this card is bad, it is not quite balanced as it is right now. I would remove the clause which states this Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon, this way those monsters are not as easy to retrieve once they leave the field. Also effects which activate once they are Synchro Summoned won't activate. And/Or you can add a restriction to this card which doesn't allow you to Special Summon any other monsters this turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 For example: you can summon "Masked Chameleon" and use it's effect to Special Summon "Steelswarm Caucastag", then use this card to summon cards like "Formula Synchron", "Puralis, the Purple Pyrolite", "Dark Diviner" and "The Fabled Unicore" (although I wonder whether someone would run all those cards together). This turned two cards from your hand and 1 card from your Graveyard into 4 cards on the field and lets you draw a card. You can't do anything with Puralis or Fomula. The same combo brings out 3 Daigusto Falcos with 3200 ATK. So maybe this could be an option for Steelswarm Decks? Getting Caucastag into the Graveyard and Masked Chameleon into the hand can both be done with Rank 4 Xyzes. I don't think that combo is consistent enough to be dangerous. Masked Chameleon would probably be the key to making this card work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I completely forgot that cards like Flacos and Unicore even existed. Nerfed it so you still need the appropriate materials for the Synchro monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I can't help but see this as mostly just being used for making Xyz as most LV4 or lowers that aren't Synchro Tuners aren't going to be all that useful. Also if Diamond Dude gets this card, then it's an easy Quasar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I can't help but see this as mostly just being used for making Xyz as most LV4 or lowers that aren't Synchro Tuners aren't going to be all that useful. Also if Diamond Dude gets this card, then it's an easy Quasar. Can Diamond Dude even trigger this card? With the "correct Materials" restriction, I don't think this would be that useful for Xyzes either. Unless I'm missing something you can do with the Caucastag combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yes, Diamond Dude can trigger it. Without the restrictions. So no Tributes, no "Can't be used as Synchro Materials", none of that. (And who says he's not broken?) It's just fine for Xyz's as it doesn't mean you can't just make multiple copies of the same monster then Xyz them. This can actually be a 1-card 101, Excition, or any Rank 4 or lower easily + be able to use Black and White Wave just for kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yes, Diamond Dude can trigger it. Without the restrictions. So no Tributes, no "Can't be used as Synchro Materials", none of that. (And who says he's not broken?) It seems you don't understand how Diamond Dude actually works. Diamond Dude only evades costs of the activations of the milled Spell cards, but restriction that aren't part of the cost are still applied, so you're still unable to Special Summon any Synchro monsters with Level 5 or higher and those monsters are still unable to be used as Synchro materials. Not that it matters anyway, because you won't be able to use Multi-Synchro anyway if you milled it with Diamond Dude, because it still needs to check the levels of the tributed monsters, but since it evaded the cost by the effect of Diamond Dude, there is no level to check, because you didn't tribute anything. Otherwise, with your logic, I would be able to grab any level Warrior-Type monster from my Deck to my hand if RotA was milled with Diamond Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMegamanlan Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 It seems you don't understand how Diamond Dude actually works. Diamond Dude only evades costs of the activations of the milled Spell cards, but restriction that aren't part of the cost are still applied, so you're still unable to Special Summon any Synchro monsters with Level 5 or higher and those monsters are still unable to be used as Synchro materials. Not that it matters anyway, because you won't be able to use Multi-Synchro anyway if you milled it with Diamond Dude, because it still needs to check the levels of the tributed monsters, but since it evaded the cost by the effect of Diamond Dude, there is no level to check, because you didn't tribute anything. Otherwise, with your logic, I would be able to grab any level Warrior-Type monster from my Deck to my hand if RotA was milled with Diamond Dude. That's not quite true. Because if you mill Pot of Duality or Soul Charge you can still Special Summon or go into your Battle Phase the turn D-Dude's effect resolves. That's the ruling on D-Dude and Pot of Duality. It's not on restrictions on specifics, like RoTA being for LV4 or lowers, but on limitations like "you cannot..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Because if you mill Pot of Duality or Soul Charge you can still Special Summon or go into your Battle Phase the turn D-Dude's effect resolves.Soul Charge says you can't conduct your Battle Phase the turn you activate the card. Duality says you can't Special Summon the turn you activate the card. When you mill one with Diamond Dude, you are activating its effect, not activating the card, which is why those restrictions do not apply. Different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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