Shengxiao Rabbit

[LittleMoxxie]

 ! The link to the archetype : Here ! 

 

This is a card from a upcoming archetype. Just want some feedback and CnC (and maybe some OCG) on the archetype effects.

 

[spoiler='Shengxiao Rabbit, Effect (NEW Version):']At the start of your Main Phase 1; you can shuffle this card and up to 2 more cards from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. You can only active this effect of "Shengxiao Rabbit" once per turn. When you draw this card, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon it to the field. When this card is Special Summoned by its own effect: You can add 1 "Shengxiao" monster from the Deck to your hand, except "Shengxiao Rabbit".[/spoiler]

[spoiler='Shengxiao Rabbit, Effect (OLD Version):']Once per turn, you can shuffle up to 3 "Shengxiao" monsters from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. When this card is added from the Deck to your hand by drawing it, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon this card to the field. When this card is Special Summoned by this effect: You can add 1 "Shengxiao" monster from the Deck to your hand.[/spoiler]

[Dokutah]

let me guess: chinese zodiac archetype? XD

 

its actually quite difficult to review just 1 card from the archetype, you need to make more of shengxiao monster at least to us reviewer to give it fair judging

 

but at least for this card:

1) this card have serious draw power ( 3 cards is a big number)

2) i assuming that all shengxiao monster SS effect is based on this card... which is easy to fulfill, not to mention fact it generate bonuses (adding another shengxiao variant to do bigger play or just to fuel a second copy of shengxiao rabbit)

 

for me (like for now) the only thing i put extra attention is the drawing effect

[LittleMoxxie]

Yes, it's base on the chinese zodiac xD (sorry for making another zodiac archetype  :()
And sorry for just making 1 card. But I thought, before I make hunders of cards and one of their key abilities are too strong (broken or "weak"), it's kind of a pain to change 10 cards then just 1, so sorry (again) for that. so I should maybe write the archetype abilities here:

 

Ability 1, Ability 2
[acronym='Effect']Once per turn, you can shuffle up to 3 "Shengxiao" monsters from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. When this card is added from the Deck to your hand by drawing it, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon this card to the field.[/acronym]

 

I see what you mean with "strong draw power" and that was the hole plane, but it maybe needs some nerfing  :wacko: Their second ability is their swarming potential. The idea is that you have to shuffle them into the Deck to get the pluses, but maybe it's not that hard to get it of :/ I could lower the 3 to 1, but then the hole lucky number thing I'm used would be off xD but maybe that's for the better or I should rework the hole engine. :)

[Dokutah]

well there no one will sue u for making a chinese zodiac archetype LOL (is yours, from your creativity, be proud of it) just like Arcana Force and Prophecy which both from tarots (by the way there not yet a chinese zodiac theme yet in real cards, Fire Fist is based on chinese novel "Water Margin" ("Suikoden of 108 stars" in japanese)

 

you don't need to change the mechanic so much (like as far as rework the whole engine), you simply need to put more restriction on it

 

what kind of restriction? well in case of rabbit you can lower its DEF, 1900 is power-full stat for level 4

 

there many restriction you can put such as:

1) "at the start of your Main Phase 1..." for draw effect (sort of "once per turn" effect that limit the drawing effect down to 1 shengxiao only), which if i considering the "Slyvans" you increase the number of your cards you can draw since its only active once ( you can create a shengxiao that draw 4 or more with this restriction)

2) "when the number of cards in your hand is less than your opponent and the difference of number is (huge number like 3) or more..." (again for drawing effect

3) ETC ( let your creativity work :) )

[LittleMoxxie]

Ah I see. I don't know if this is a fix, feels like I nerf/buff this >..<
But here's the updated version of Rabbit:

[spoiler='Shengxiao Rabbit, Effect (NEW):']At the start of your Main Phase 1; you can shuffle this card and up to 2 more cards from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. You can only active this effect of "Shengxiao Rabbit" once per turn. When you draw this card, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon it to the field. When this card is Special Summoned by its own effect: You can add 1 "Shengxiao" monster from the Deck to your hand, except "Shengxiao Rabbit".[/spoiler]

 

She will still be 1 of the stronger draw power in the Shengxiao archetype (the Rooster will be the strongest), but overall they will have a lower field present (With low ATK and DEF and so on), don't know if that is enough of a restriction doe. :/
Thank you for the CnC and feedback. :)

[Dokutah]

But here's the updated version of Rabbit:

[spoiler='Shengxiao Rabbit, Effect (NEW):']At the start of your Main Phase 1; you can shuffle this card and up to 2 more cards from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. You can only active this effect of "Shengxiao Rabbit" once per turn. When you draw this card, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon it to the field. When this card is Special Summoned by its own effect: You can add 1 "Shengxiao" monster from the Deck to your hand, except "Shengxiao Rabbit".[/spoiler]

 

 

slight edit:

 

At the start of your Main Phase 1; you can shuffle this card and up to 2 more cards from your hand into the Deck, and then draw the same number of cards you shuffled in. When you draw this card, except during your Draw Phase: You can Special Summon it to the field. When this card is Special Summoned by its own effect: You can add 1 "Shengxiao" monster from the Deck to your hand, except "Shengxiao Rabbit".

 

i remove the "once per turn" because there no need for it ( if you have 2 shengxiao, and you active its drawing effect from one of those monster as the first effect that active at your main phase, you may draw... while the second copy cannot active its effect because the activation condition is to be the first effect that active at that phase

 

i actually prefer not to return the rabbit as part of the cost... but i that see not a problem that need to be fixed

 

looks nice, not gonna CnC anymore (i guess) and i wait for rest of 11 shengxiao or maybe some of spell/trap card support :)

[LittleMoxxie]

Ok, ty for all (again) and I'll start to compose the others with this in mind :D