Forest Fire Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Lore: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard. This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field; you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster with this effect. *You can banish this face-up card and pay half your Life Points; search your Deck and Graveyard for all LIGHT Fairy-Type monsters, then have your opponent pick 4 of them at random. You may Special Summon up to 2 of those monsters, ignoring their Summoning conditions. Any monsters not Special Summoned are Banished. Return all other cards to your Deck and Graveyard respectively.You can only activate this effect of "Bringer of Divine Light" once per Duel. [spoiler Old] Lore: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard. This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field; you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster with this effect. *You can banish this face-up card and pay half your Life Points; search your Deck and Graveyard for all Fairy-Type and LIGHT monsters, then have your opponent pick 4 of them at random. You may Special Summon any of those monsters, ignoring their Summoning conditions. Any monsters not Special Summoned are Banished. Return all other cards to your Deck and Graveyard respectively.You can only activate this effect of "Bringer of Divine Light" once per Duel.[/spoiler] [spoiler Older] I think I might have gone to far one way or the other. It just depends on the situation. Lore: This card must be Special Summoned by Banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard. While this Special Summoned card is on the field or while this card is in the Graveyard, it is treated as a Normal Monster. While this card is face-up on the field; except during the turn it was Special Summoned, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with this effect. *Once per duel, randomly select any Fairy-Type or LIGHT monster from Deck or Graveyard; Special Summon that card ignoring it's Summoning conditions by Banishing this card and paying half of your Life Points. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemachu Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I think I might have gone to far one way or the other. It just depends on the situation. Lore: This card must be Special Summoned by Banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard. While this Special Summoned card is on the field or while this card is in the Graveyard, it is treated as a Normal Monster. While this card is face-up on the field; except during the turn it was Special Summoned, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with this effect. *Once per duel, randomly select any Fairy-Type or LIGHT monster from Deck or Graveyard; Special Summon that card ignoring it's Summoning conditions by Banishing this card and paying half of your Life Points. First of the card grammer is a little bit of, and can therefore question some aspects of this card. Since some elements point me in different directions concerning its effect, I will supply some different versions of Card Grammer fixes. Since you did not declare from where you summon it, I assume it is from your hand. Furthermore I will split the effects, so to not repeat myself too much. "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set from your hand. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways."; "Cannot be Special Summoned, except by its own effect. You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard."; "You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard.". In case of the first effect, you can have the default Gemini Effect ("This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field; except during the turn it was Special Summoned, you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster with this effect."); simply because it will always has been Special Summoned when it is on the field. As for the second and third effect, they are practically the same (the only difference being that you cannot use "Monster Reborn" on the second effect). This way, you are allowed to Normal Summon the monster from your hand; which your Gemini-clause implied.I would however word the effect a little bit different: "This card is treated as a Normal Monster while in the Graveyard or face-up on the field if it was Special Summoned. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster. If this card was Normal Summoned, it gains this effect.". With its Summoning out of the way, we can take a look at its Gemini Effect. Since most Special Summoning effects so far (if not all) do not summon a monster at random, I do not have any reference for how this effect would be worded. So here is my best bet: "You can banish this face-up card and pay half your Life Points; search your Deck and Graveyard for all Fairy-Type and LIGHT monsters, then have your opponent pick 1 of them at random. Special Summon that monster, ignoring the Summoning conditions. Return all other cards to your Deck and Graveyard respectively.You can only activate this effect of "Herald of Divine Light" once per Duel.". Now that I have covered the wording of the entire effect, I will reflect on its usefulness (I will go with the first interpretation of its Summoning Effect). Because it is treated as a Level 7 Normal monster the turn it is summoned (unless you control a face-up "Superalloy Beast Raptinus"), it does not really have much usage outside from being a Rank 7 Xyz Material or a 2500 ATK beatstick. Should it manage to survive your opponent's turn (and its Normal Summon), you get access to any Fairy-Type or LIGHT monster in your Deck or Graveyard. The catch is that you barely have control over which monster is summoned (and the fact that you should pay a humongous cost). If you want more control over which monster you summon with this effect, you should run less Fairy-Type monsters; which makes it harder to get this card on the field. Arguably the strongest card you can summon with this effect is "Sophia, Goddess of Rebirth". The main problem is that you probably want to be able to summon that monster by its own effect as well, which would require quite a dedicated deck. A "Herald" deck can probably fullfil most requirements since it runs Rituals ("Herald of Perfection"), often a Tuner or two ("Herald of Orange Light"/"The Agent of Mystery - Earth") and Xyz monsters should not be an issue ("The Agent of Creation - Venus" with "Mystical Shine Ball" can aid in the summoning). Fusion monsters can be taken care of by "Instant Fusion" (Fusion Summon something like "Elder God Noden"). The advantage as well as the disadvantage of this type of deck is that it runs quite a lot Fairy-Type monsters. Due to the large amount of fairies, you can easily summon this card; but the monster you summon becomes unpredictable (chance to either get "Sophia, Goddess of Rebirth" or something like "Mystical Shine Ball"). It might not come as a surprise that I think this card is uderwhelming as it is now. My suggestion to make it somewhat more usefull, is: let the player select 3~5 different LIGHT/Fairy-Type monsters from their Deck and or Graveyard. This should greatly improve its usefullness. As for its summoning effect, I think number 2 and 3 might benefit it some more; but might as well have been what you intended all along. Also removing the "except during the turn it was Special Summoned"-clause would probably not break this card, but this is up for debate. Lastly, this card's effect is quite unrelated to most other "Herald" monsters; which focus on negating the opponent's card effects. But since this is related to the card's flavor, which (in my opinion) is less important than the power of its effect(s). In short: This card is underwhelming due to its effect being "difficult" to activate, having a huge cost and the small payoff. I hope my vision/suggestion is of some usage to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thank you so much. I didn't actually mean for this to be related to an archetype and the Herald's kinda slipped my mind. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemachu Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Lore: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Fairy-Type monsters from your Graveyard. This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field; you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster with this effect. *You can banish this face-up card and pay half your Life Points; search your Deck and Graveyard for all Fairy-Type and LIGHT monsters, then have your opponent pick 4 of them at random. You may Special Summon any of those monsters, ignoring their Summoning conditions. Any monsters not Special Summoned are Banished. Return all other cards to your Deck and Graveyard respectively.You can only activate this effect of "Bringer of Divine Light" once per Duel. It seems as though you have applied some changes. Its initial Summoning condition seems to be met more easily, as well as having a regular gemini-clause. The effect seems to be changed according to a way you can inerpret my suggestion, although a bit different from what I actually intended. I must admid that I was not exactly clear on that part. My suggestion was somewhat based on the effect of "Malefic World" and "Power Tool Dragon". That way you would choose 3~5 LIGHT/Fairy-Type monsters from your Deck and/or Graveyard, and have your opponent randomly pick a card from them. That way the effect would become something like: "You can banish this face-up card and pay half your Life Points; choose 5 LIGHT or Fairy-Type monsters from either your Deck or Graveyard and have your opponent pick 1 of them at random. Special Summon that monster, ignoring the Summoning conditions. Return all other cards to the Deck and Graveyard respectively.". But that aside, your inerpretation might also work. The wording of its new effect makes me wonder whether you can Special Summon up to 4 monsters by its effect, or just 1 of them. The latter is the more balanced version, but the wording makes me think it is the former. If that is the case, we have a card which is a tad overpowered. Just losing a monster and half your Life Points seems like a small cost when you can possibly get 4 extremely powerful monsters, at the risk of getting 4 weak ones. This, however, can be easily avoided by just running a few powerfull LIGHT and/or Fairy-Type monster alongside a lot of monsters with a different Type and attribute; this way you can get them out quite consistently with this card (since it no longer requires a dedicated Fairy-Type Deck). BEWARE: if you build your Deck this way, you might get quite some dead draws. In this case I would suggest to either limit the number of monsters you can Special Summon this way or to remove the "ignoring the Summoning conditions"-clause. This should limit the sheer power it would otherwise be able to generate. As for your card's name, it does give me the idea that all monsters you can summon with its effect should be LIGHT and Fairy-Type simultaniously, rather than either having the LIGHT Attribute or Fairy-Type. If that is the case you should replace: "all Fairy-Type and LIGHT monsters" with "all LIGHT Fairy-Type monsters". As in most cases, 1 missing or different word can make quite a difference. This is quite a change to its effect, and limits its playability a little. I hope you have some usage for my clarification as well as my vision/suggestion on the new effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I hope you have some usage for my clarification as well as my vision/suggestion on the new effect. Who wouldn't have usage for your vision? I cannot thank you enough for all the help you've given me. and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at my "of the Burning Sun" Archetype. (edit on Bringer to come) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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