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JK - If he does not care, what are you going to do, shoot him?

 

YCMaker is not a computer, he is a human.

 

YCMaker created this forum, as well as the Card Maker. Can you make a Card Maker as good as this?...Wrong Question, can you even make a Card Maker? No, if you could you would not be here.

 

Do you know how long it takes to fix problems on the forum, I think he is working hard to make this forum better. Any forum you make ( without going into other forums posting, PMing "JOIN MAH FORUM!!!" ) would be empty comapred to YCM.

 

Money? Lulz, he lost more money that he gained. ( He did not gain anything anyway ). He is paying, for you to go on here. I think you JK and many don't deserve it.

 

Appreciate what he has done, don't ask for more.

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Everyone who defended YCMaker, I must ask you to rethink your claims. "JK, don't flame him, he's our Admin - the best guy ever! He made the site, isn't that enough?"

 

LISTEN, insolents, for the FRUNK is speaking:

 

Of course he cares, this site is making him money! Who wouldn't care about something that makes money? Whether he cares or not is NOT the issue. The ISSUE and the question from JK is "what is it YCMaker exactly cares about?"

 

I (yes, the Frunk, the guy who's known (of) YCMaker for 19 months!) know about as much about YCMaker as a person who joined yesterday, nobody, perhaps with the exception of Falling Pizza, knows ANYTHING about him. Good luck making a YCMaker Quiz, because you'd have two questions:

 

Q1: What is YCMaker best known for?

 

A: Making the card maker.

 

Q2: When is his birthday?

 

A: According to his profile, November 11.

 

You search through his 283 posts and find me 5 posts in which he actually reveals something about himself and I'll implode with amazement.

 

What is my point? He is the site's administrator! The administrator is arguably the most important member of anyone. Do you know why the YCM InvisionFree forum never grew until I got there? Because I was actually active. I don't know if YCMaker knows HOW LUCKY he is that when he started this site that Danilus and myself were there. As Super Moderators, WE kept the place running. WE kept people interested. A post from YCMaker came once in a blue moon!

 

In most cases, a forum's ROOT Admin (of which YCMaker is here) should be in the top 10 posters if they expect their forum to grow. They NEED to respond to their members requests if they want their forum to be successful - Having said that, I bet you're wondering how this site got this far. YCMaker is a very smart man (I believe he is a man, I've never known the definitive truth, and his profile says "undisclosed"), he created an application that allows people to create their own Yu-Gi-Oh cards (I think he did it by himself, but I've can't be sure because I just don't know - I've never been told), and made a forum for it. Considering how good it is now, it's obvious that the forum will keep growing.

 

This reinforces my point. YCMaker could leave ignore the forum completely. He could fire the moderators and it wouldn't make a difference - This site is autonomous now, much like North Korea.

 

Danilus and myself once said to a member who I couldn't remember for the life or me that didn't respond to his question (PM or otherwise) because "YCMaker is busy updating the site". Why? Because we are indebted to him - I'll tell you why later. We can't have people criticising our Admin, it makes us look soft, which simply is not an option. There can't be THAT much to do on this site, surely. The card maker hasn't changed much recently; as far as I know, the server upgrade is done; the forums haven't changed at all, and it takes about a minute to edit a user's account to make them a moderator, so what's going on? Oh that's right, he's having a life, because that's something else Frunk and Dan said to cover the site's backside. I already said we don't actually know that - It's just the most likely scenario.

 

He doesn't care because he doesn't need to. He's employed a bunch of moderators who want to feel that they have some power somewhere (much like myself) and feel confident that they'll keep logging on everyday to feed their egos. It's true, and it works! Not one person on the moderating team is selfless - that's bleeding obvious. If you want to be a mod, ask yourself why, REALLY, why you want to be a mod. Since you don't have to post it you don't have to lie and make up some rubbish like "I want to help the forum", because that's just a perk. You want it because you want the power, or the (odd) popularity boost, or some other selfish desire that you just know will be fulfilled. I didn't ask - I didn't even WANT to be a mod, but I was made one, and I thank YCMaker for every single second. We both gained a lot from each other. I argue that the forum would still be nothing more than 50-odd members on InvisionFree if it wasn't for me, yet my becoming a moderator made me a lot smarter in a few very nice ways. I know how to get under people's skins, I know how to manipulate, dominate and control people - to a small extent. When I'm old enough I want to join the police force and eventually get into politics - This experience has been incredibly valuable for me. YCMaker also showed me, subliminally, a very intriguing way to administrate a forum - My own style though, is very different to his. He makes a small amount of people (the moderators of this site) feel important. On my forum, I make a small amount of people important, and make that desire of importance for everyone else almost entrancing. Since my forum doesn't make me any money, it's a much more work-orientated way of running things, but it's much more fulfilling. YCMaker does not NEED fulfilling - he makes money.

 

I though, am not the issue. Yes, I cared about myself, which made me care for the forum when I became a moderator, meaning YCMaker doesn't have to. It's the same (probably less eerie) story with the newer Super Mods of Tkill93 and God Kaze. Both would not hesitate to tell you how gruelling Super Moderation is here when you're one man against 60,000 people with only a small team of powerless "normal mods" to aid you. But I bet they both enjoy it.

 

As an Admin, YCMaker just had to lay a foundation and way for a power-hungry kid to who had far too much time on his hands and look at it now! One could say this site runs like clockwork, because it does not know any different.

 

I will now post my arguments:

 

To kid, Slime, tallman95, icemasteralex, Max, Azuh, JK Rewrite (What? Don't change your argument because no one agrees!), icyblue, Exiro, Elsandero, and Anarchy07:

 

What proof do you have that "he" is actually is "running" the forums? What proof do you have that he is "constantly maintaining" them? What proof do you have that he is busy with "real life"? You're all saying "I think" and "I'm pretty sure".

 

To HORUS and Tkill:

 

The issue is not whether he "cares", period. The issue is what he cares about.

 

To hunterb:

 

You seem to know what you're talking about! Good show!

 

To Cybernetic Dragon:

 

Posting and contributing to the forum are two very different things.

 

To Supreme Dragon:

 

We appreciate the highly glorified amount of work he has done. He is certainly not losing money here, either, from what I've determined of his character, he isn't one of the rare selfless people of this Earth.

 

YCMaker, whatever age, gender, build, hair colour, eye colour, personality he/she is - Is a genius. He cares for himself, not some piece of cyberspace - he's human like us all. That's all there is to it.

 

I am quite dismayed to say that I am only the third person who publicly agrees wholeheartedly with JK Rewrite. The rest of you, just think about what I've written. If you're 16 or younger, you may need to read it twice, as you may not understand it.

 

The Frunk has spoken, and since nobody knows anything about YCMaker, I'm pretty damn sure I'm right.

 

+1 rep to JK Rewrite.

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I agree with Frunk, and not just because he's Frunk, I've searched YCMaker's posts and threads and found nothing about his personal life. But he does have a life, he's one of the many people who just cares about money, and he gets alot of it from this site.

 

YCMaker is probably married and has children, maybe he needs the money from this site to take care of his family. Maybe he needs it to take care of himself. Nobady knows, except his Real-Life friends and Real-Life Family.

 

To show my agreement, 1+ rep to both Frunk of JK Rewrite.

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Notice how there are no pop-ups on this site.

 

that means he doesn't make a lot of money, and notice, how the only ads are by google.

 

he probably makes just enough money to keep this site active.

 

and more likely than not, he has gotten some kind of royalty from someone for this site.

 

otherwise, I doubt that he could afford a new server...

 

Max out.

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One thing, I used to be a member of Cheat Code Central forums, and the guy who created the forums never even posted or did anything to help the forums, the moderators and admins (other than the admin that created the forums and site) had to manage the forums without one second of help from the person that created those forums. So be glad that YCMaker is ever online.

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Just to clear some things up - I make next to nothing from the forum itself, all site costs are paid for from what I make from the card maker. My reasons for keeping the forum up and running have nothing to do with what I expect to get back from it. Most of the work I do on this site is related to web server/hosting issues (of which there are many with a site this large), in addition to handling some of the more major conflicts that occur on the forum. There are a number of upgrades to the card maker that I want and have been working to implement, but its always a risk upgrading something that is already working, so I keep these upgrades to a minimum. I try to fix any technical problems as quickly as possible and while my presence on the forum is minimal, I have tried to build a site that is stable and reliable and hopefully contributes to the Yu-Gi-Oh community in ways that other sites do not. I don't think that its fair to claim that I don't care about this site based simply on the number of posts that I have, since my role here is vastly different than most other's.

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Everyone who defended YCMaker' date=' I must ask you to rethink your claims. "JK, don't flame him, he's our Admin - the best guy ever! He made the site, isn't that enough?"

 

LISTEN, insolents, for the FRUNK is speaking:

 

Of course he [i']cares[/i], this site is making him money! Who wouldn't care about something that makes money? Whether he cares or not is NOT the issue. The ISSUE and the question from JK is "what is it YCMaker exactly cares about?"

 

I (yes, the Frunk, the guy who's known (of) YCMaker for 19 months!) know about as much about YCMaker as a person who joined yesterday, nobody, perhaps with the exception of Falling Pizza, knows ANYTHING about him. Good luck making a YCMaker Quiz, because you'd have two questions:

 

Q1: What is YCMaker best known for?

 

A: Making the card maker.

 

Q2: When is his birthday?

 

A: According to his profile, November 11.

 

You search through his 283 posts and find me 5 posts in which he actually reveals something about himself and I'll implode with amazement.

 

What is my point? He is the site's administrator! The administrator is arguably the most important member of anyone. Do you know why the YCM InvisionFree forum never grew until I got there? Because I was actually active. I don't know if YCMaker knows HOW LUCKY he is that when he started this site that Danilus and myself were there. As Super Moderators, WE kept the place running. WE kept people interested. A post from YCMaker came once in a blue moon!

 

In most cases, a forum's ROOT Admin (of which YCMaker is here) should be in the top 10 posters if they expect their forum to grow. They NEED to respond to their members requests if they want their forum to be successful - Having said that, I bet you're wondering how this site got this far. YCMaker is a very smart man (I believe he is a man, I've never known the definitive truth, and his profile says "undisclosed"), he created an application that allows people to create their own Yu-Gi-Oh cards (I think he did it by himself, but I've can't be sure because I just don't know - I've never been told), and made a forum for it. Considering how good it is now, it's obvious that the forum will keep growing.

 

This reinforces my point. YCMaker could leave ignore the forum completely. He could fire the moderators and it wouldn't make a difference - This site is autonomous now, much like North Korea.

 

Danilus and myself once said to a member who I couldn't remember for the life or me that didn't respond to his question (PM or otherwise) because "YCMaker is busy updating the site". Why? Because we are indebted to him - I'll tell you why later. We can't have people criticising our Admin, it makes us look soft, which simply is not an option. There can't be THAT much to do on this site, surely. The card maker hasn't changed much recently; as far as I know, the server upgrade is done; the forums haven't changed at all, and it takes about a minute to edit a user's account to make them a moderator, so what's going on? Oh that's right, he's having a life, because that's something else Frunk and Dan said to cover the site's backside. I already said we don't actually know that - It's just the most likely scenario.

 

He doesn't care because he doesn't need to. He's employed a bunch of moderators who want to feel that they have some power somewhere (much like myself) and feel confident that they'll keep logging on everyday to feed their egos. It's true, and it works! Not one person on the moderating team is selfless - that's bleeding obvious. If you want to be a mod, ask yourself why, REALLY, why you want to be a mod. Since you don't have to post it you don't have to lie and make up some rubbish like "I want to help the forum", because that's just a perk. You want it because you want the power, or the (odd) popularity boost, or some other selfish desire that you just know will be fulfilled. I didn't ask - I didn't even WANT to be a mod, but I was made one, and I thank YCMaker for every single second. We both gained a lot from each other. I argue that the forum would still be nothing more than 50-odd members on InvisionFree if it wasn't for me, yet my becoming a moderator made me a lot smarter in a few very nice ways. I know how to get under people's skins, I know how to manipulate, dominate and control people - to a small extent. When I'm old enough I want to join the police force and eventually get into politics - This experience has been incredibly valuable for me. YCMaker also showed me, subliminally, a very intriguing way to administrate a forum - My own style though, is very different to his. He makes a small amount of people (the moderators of this site) feel important. On my forum, I make a small amount of people important, and make that desire of importance for everyone else almost entrancing. Since my forum doesn't make me any money, it's a much more work-orientated way of running things, but it's much more fulfilling. YCMaker does not NEED fulfilling - he makes money.

 

I though, am not the issue. Yes, I cared about myself, which made me care for the forum when I became a moderator, meaning YCMaker doesn't have to. It's the same (probably less eerie) story with the newer Super Mods of Tkill93 and God Kaze. Both would not hesitate to tell you how gruelling Super Moderation is here when you're one man against 60,000 people with only a small team of powerless "normal mods" to aid you. But I bet they both enjoy it.

 

As an Admin, YCMaker just had to lay a foundation and way for a power-hungry kid to who had far too much time on his hands and look at it now! One could say this site runs like clockwork, because it does not know any different.

 

I will now post my arguments:

 

To kid, Slime, tallman95, icemasteralex, Max, Azuh, JK Rewrite (What? Don't change your argument because no one agrees!), icyblue, Exiro, Elsandero, and Anarchy07:

 

What proof do you have that "he" is actually is "running" the forums? What proof do you have that he is "constantly maintaining" them? What proof do you have that he is busy with "real life"? You're all saying "I think" and "I'm pretty sure".

 

To HORUS and Tkill:

 

The issue is not whether he "cares", period. The issue is what he cares about.

 

To hunterb:

 

You seem to know what you're talking about! Good show!

 

To Cybernetic Dragon:

 

Posting and contributing to the forum are two very different things.

 

To Supreme Dragon:

 

We appreciate the highly glorified amount of work he has done. He is certainly not losing money here, either, from what I've determined of his character, he isn't one of the rare selfless people of this Earth.

 

YCMaker, whatever age, gender, build, hair colour, eye colour, personality he/she is - Is a genius. He cares for himself, not some piece of cyberspace - he's human like us all. That's all there is to it.

 

I am quite dismayed to say that I am only the third person who publicly agrees wholeheartedly with JK Rewrite. The rest of you, just think about what I've written. If you're 16 or younger, you may need to read it twice, as you may not understand it.

 

The Frunk has spoken, and since nobody knows anything about YCMaker, I'm pretty damn sure I'm right.

 

+1 rep to JK Rewrite.

 

Frunk knows what's going on. It took until he got here for someone to rant? Really? Damn, this place DOES suck.

 

If YCMaker really cared about the site, he'd have more mods, at least one other admin, preferably two, and the Card Maker would be a hell of a lot better than it is. Writing script once you have a template really isn't that hard. The only reason homebrew on consoles takes so long to develop is that someone has to crack the code, find the pattern, and create a template. From there, it's pie.

 

The reason this site is failing to have lots of people such as myself, Frunk, 72night, etc., is because it's getting overtaken by people who don't know ****. Why? All the forum has to offer is the card maker, and a Graphic Design section that gets crappier and crappier. The Yu-Gi-Oh section is in the same state as Graphic Design. Really. Army System, VRPG, Arcade... there's a ton of stuff we COULD have, but DON'T.

 

 

Just to clear some things up - I make next to nothing from the forum itself' date=' all site costs are paid for from what I make from the card maker. My reasons for keeping the forum up and running have nothing to do with what I expect to get back from it. Most of the work I do on this site is related to web server/hosting issues (of which there are many with a site this large), in addition to handling some of the more major conflicts that occur on the forum. There are a number of upgrades to the card maker that I want and have been working to implement, but its always a risk upgrading something that is already working, so I keep these upgrades to a minimum. I try to fix any technical problems as quickly as possible and while my presence on the forum is minimal, I have tried to build a site that is stable and reliable and hopefully contributes to the Yu-Gi-Oh community in ways that other sites do not. I don't think that its fair to claim that I don't care about this site based simply on the number of posts that I have, since my role here is vastly different than most other's.

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Lol, yeah right. 60,000 members, about 100 guests at any given point in the day, ads on the card maker and in posts, and you can barely afford the site? COME ON. If you used adsense, you'd be making around $50 a day. That's pretty good money, and I would say it's enough to keep the forum running AND have a considerable profit.

 

You don't want to fix what isn't broken? MAKE A TEST PAGE AND PLAY WITH THE CODE THERE. I know how websites work, I know you can make a test page. You should do so if that's your concern.

 

If you're so busy fixing things, fix "The Avatar Problem". It shouldn't take so long for such a skilled person as yourself, right? Right? You could also have one of the other Admins do it. WAIT, THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER ADMINS! On a site with 60k+ Members, you'd think there would be. What happens when the ROOT gets hacked? The site tanks. And there's no backup. There's not even anyone who can crack the SQL to fix it. So sad.

 

Like Frunk, if I need to, I'll make a new post. This post won't be edited.

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Darkthorne, It's hard to understand your intense hostility towards this site considering its completely free to use and you're welcome to leave at anytime. I'm well aware that you run a forum of your own and would like it be successful; apparently, this fuels your flames and leads to the number of derogatory posts that you make. I would, however, still like to address your "concerns".

 

Lol' date=' yeah right. 60,000 members, about 100 guests at any given point in the day, ads on the card maker and in posts, and you can barely afford the site? COME ON. If you used adsense, you'd be making around $50 a day. That's pretty good money, and I would say it's enough to keep the forum running AND have a considerable profit.

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I said I made next to nothing from the forum itself, the forum and the card maker are two very different components of this site and it is because of the card maker that the forum exists.

 

You don't want to fix what isn't broken? MAKE A TEST PAGE AND PLAY WITH THE CODE THERE. I know how websites work' date=' I know you can make a test page. You should do so if that's your concern.

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All modifications are tested heavily on my local server before the web server is updated. That doesn't change the fact that the operating conditions on the site itself are very different from the testing conditions, specifically in regards to CPU load and database size.

 

If you're so busy fixing things' date=' fix "The Avatar Problem". It shouldn't take so long for such a skilled person as yourself, right? Right? You could also have one of the other Admins do it. WAIT, THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER ADMINS! On a site with 60k+ Members, you'd think there would be. What happens when the ROOT gets hacked? The site tanks. And there's no backup. There's not even anyone who can crack the SQL to fix it. So sad.

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The avatar problem has been fixed, and was fixed as soon as I was made aware of it. I choose not to employ any other admins because I believe I am capable of running the site myself, as I have for over a year. There have already been a number of security breaches in the past, all of which have been handled in a timely manner. I'm also confused as to why you would assume there is no backup to this site. Every part of this site is backed up thoroughly and frequently, and should a large of amount of data ever be lost, it will always be restored as quickly as possible. I do appreciate your concern though.

 

On another note, I like the idea of a debate forum that you mentioned in another thread; it's been requested in the past, but I usually try to wait until it seems like there is an actual need for something before adding it to the forum. I will see about implementing this in the near future.

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On another note' date=' I like the idea of a debate forum that you mentioned in another thread; it's been requested in the past, but I usually try to wait until it seems like there is an actual [b']need[/b] for something before adding it to the forum. I will see about implementing this in the near future.

 

We needed a Clubs section?

 

If that was made because so many people made clubs that it flooded the general chat..... Time to Scheme... :P

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