Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. If you've got a dedicated server' date=' you should be able to handle that. And if you can't afford one, get some better ads. I'm going to guess that no one is stupid enough to buy from those ads, so they wouldn't care if you put some on that got you more money. I'm also pretty sure there are scripters on the internet who would be willing to help you with security precautions. Just copyright the script, and put out an ad.[/quote'] This site is hosted on a dedicated server, but the issue regarding script performance is completely relative. It's still difficult to know what the server will be able to "handle". Your main issue here is you believe that the card maker isn't being upgraded enough, and that if I can't manage to update it frequently enough, I should hire someone else to do it for me. Besides the costs involved, there is a lot that such a scripter would need to learn to become well-versed in the way the card maker has already been programmed. Most scripters prefer to work in code environments they are familiar with, such as common forum softwares, etc. As it stands, if I believe there is a pressing need for a feature to be added, I will add it as quickly as possible. I get a lot of requests for features; unfortunately, I can't implement all of them otherwise the card maker would be a mess. 3. S-Mods are few and far between' date=' with only 2 active (as far as I can count), and they can't do file edits to add more to the site, or add a decent skin, etc. Just choose someone you trust who has a good knowledge of such things, and grant them ACP access to what you think they need access to. I would assume MyBB has this limiting feature, IPB does. If they need more, they can ask...[/quote'] You are straying from your original point that more Admins are needed. Super Mods already have access to the Administration Panel, and if see that more are needed, more will be added to the team. Also, what you may regard as a lackluster skin others might consider functionally attractive. I have built this site to be as straight-forward to use as possible, and I believe that skin complements the software nicely. There have not been very many complaints in the past regarding the forum's theme. 4. I'm not going to ask if you want to bet' date=' but you should know that it's possible. And I'm not talking about the card maker, I'm talking about the forum side. It's a small step from forum to host, if you know how to do your research. Anyone who would attempt such a feat would obviously do so.[/quote'] Regardless of the likelihood or possibility of such a security breach, you are basing your argument purely on a hypothetical situation. As there has not been any significant down time in the past due to my inability to cope with such threats, I don't see this as a pressing matter that needs be further pursued. (All numbers -1.) 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that, and I know a lot of them. 2. It's a point on both ends, I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB. 3. Very well, point dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that' date=' and I know a lot of them.[/quote'] Unfortunately I prefer my source code to be closed, and would prefer to expand the card maker myself, as I see necessary. Others who are seeking such an experience may not fully understand how the scripts interact with the runtime server. 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB.[/quote'] Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Wow, you are actually posting more YCMaker, nice to see ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 And I can't find anywhere to jump into this debate. YCM knows his MyBB's/Internets and how to debate formidably, and Matt knows how to express a point surprisingly well for a High School Freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Just sit back, relax, and watch the show *Eats popcorn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that' date=' and I know a lot of them.[/quote'] Unfortunately I prefer my source code to be closed, and would prefer to expand the card maker myself, as I see necessary. Others who are seeking such an experience may not fully understand how the scripts interact with the runtime server. 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB.[/quote'] Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word. 1. Fine. Only one point left. 2. If you think there's a possible security breach, I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that' date=' and I know a lot of them.[/quote'] Unfortunately I prefer my source code to be closed, and would prefer to expand the card maker myself, as I see necessary. Others who are seeking such an experience may not fully understand how the scripts interact with the runtime server. 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB.[/quote'] Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word. 1. Fine. Only one point left. 2. If you think there's a possible security breach, I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. ;) Just to let you know, Card Contests is also fine, New rules and actions have been placed to negate a spamfest, and it works. Sadly thats all i can do with only having 1 section an all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that' date=' and I know a lot of them.[/quote'] Unfortunately I prefer my source code to be closed, and would prefer to expand the card maker myself, as I see necessary. Others who are seeking such an experience may not fully understand how the scripts interact with the runtime server. 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB.[/quote'] Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word. 1. Fine. Only one point left. 2. If you think there's a possible security breach, I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. ;) I finally get to jump in. He DID use the right form of Complement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complement v.s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1. How hard is it to project the increase in the load on the server? I'm talking about volunteer people who do it for the experience. There are plenty of people like that' date=' and I know a lot of them.[/quote'] Unfortunately I prefer my source code to be closed, and would prefer to expand the card maker myself, as I see necessary. Others who are seeking such an experience may not fully understand how the scripts interact with the runtime server. 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled compliment wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB.[/quote'] Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word. 1. Fine. Only one point left. 2. If you think there's a possible security breach, I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. ;) I finally get to jump in. He DID use the right form of Complement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complement v.s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliment Because citing wiki won't get you an F in any class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. If you think there's a possible security breach' date=' I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. [/quote']I'm not saying I'm never going to modify the forum further - far from it. I just think that plugins providing fun incentives for members aren't necessarily a priority, and are rather superficial when it comes down to it. As for the rules not being enforced enough - I'm always willing to add more mods to the team, if I think the time is right. While I don't want to discuss my plans here, I have been looking at the situation and am aware of the problem areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. If you think there's a possible security breach' date=' I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. [/quote']I'm not saying I'm never going to modify the forum further - far from it. I just think that plugins providing fun incentives for members aren't necessarily a priority, and are rather superficial when it comes down to it. As for the rules not being enforced enough - I'm always willing to add more mods to the team, if I think the time is right. While I don't want to discuss my plans here, I have been looking at the situation and am aware of the problem areas. lol your most likly aware of all the areas from my Mass PM's, i am sorry for those btw, i hate to like nag and such ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 lol your most likly aware of all the areas from my Mass PM's' date=' i am sorry for those btw, i hate to like nag and such ^_^[/quote']I appreciate the contributions you've made to the site, and don't worry - your PMs make up only a fraction of those that I receive everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. If you think there's a possible security breach' date=' I have a friend who can check for said breaches. The people who make them are mostly hackers who can check for them anyway, but whatever. I agree that the features don't dictate how great it is, but they do make the members happier. If you want another example, watch the next thread I'm going to make. They exist for different reasons depending on the forum. Interaction happens without forums, they just bring together a like-minded audience more easily. It may provide it, but only slightly. The rules aren't enforced enough (outside of Graphic Design, that is. Sanji's doing a good job.), and the forum is being lost to n00bs such as that new Naruto kid who's gotten himself 7 negs in one night. As for the spelling, I suppose either works. But I did catch you on the grammar. [/quote']I'm not saying I'm never going to modify the forum further - far from it. I just think that plugins providing fun incentives for members aren't necessarily a priority, and are rather superficial when it comes down to it. As for the rules not being enforced enough - I'm always willing to add more mods to the team, if I think the time is right. While I don't want to discuss my plans here, I have been looking at the situation and am aware of the problem areas. It's good to know that you want to take it further, and I agree that it's slightly superficial with only one Admin. Regarding your statement on rules-- I've heard that the mods would appreciate it if they had at least 2 people to each forum. And if you've checked and read through General tonight, you'll see that a Debate forum would be greatly appreciated. Members even say so in one of the topics. Remember my post about "THIS FORUM (YCM) DOES NOT ALLOW LINKS, LOL."? The point wasn't that I couldn't have my links, but that if some are not allowed, none should be. It was a good debate, but it got so much crap from people who didn't pay attention that it had to be locked. Such is why we need a debate forum. If you want to discuss it, I'm open on IM or PM. Just ask. I agree that it's not fit to discuss plans regarding mods here, it'd just cause an uproar. If you're aware of the problem areas, I am going to take a wild guess and say that YCM would like to know future plans and confirmed updates. Using the news forum more frequently would ALSO probably be a plus. I think I closed that alright. I thank you for the good debate, and when you get time, and we can agree on a subject, we should do it again. =D Again, can you please change my name to Draco Straybyrn? I tried PMing you a while ago, but it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Just to clear some things up - I make next to nothing from the forum itself' date=' all site costs are paid for from what I make from the card maker. My reasons for keeping the forum up and running have nothing to do with what I expect to get back from it. Most of the work I do on this site is related to web server/hosting issues (of which there are many with a site this large), in addition to handling some of the more major conflicts that occur on the forum. There are a number of upgrades to the card maker that I want and have been working to implement, but its always a risk upgrading something that is already working, so I keep these upgrades to a minimum. I try to fix any technical problems as quickly as possible and while my presence on the forum is minimal, I have tried to build a site that is stable and reliable and hopefully contributes to the Yu-Gi-Oh community in ways that other sites do not. I don't think that its fair to claim that I don't care about this site based simply on the number of posts that I have, since my role here is vastly different than most other's.[/quote'] You're missing my point. It's obvious there is maintenance to do on this forum. My argument was that nobody knows this but you, and all these people flaming JK Rewrite were unjust. Now i would hope everyone who commented on this thread will read YCMakers comment and take heed of it' date=' in all honesty i did not comment on this thread as it was a downright rudeness from the very beginning.[/quote'] Being rude and being critical are not the same thing. @ Yankeefan: Don't forget that 60K is the grand total of members. The amount of active members is certainly no where near. Also, thanks to moderators he has not given himself a reason to distance himself, just an excuse (whether he takes up this excuse or not is not my point). I for one say I often needed YCM's help many times during my time here, but little came of it. Also, I'm quite sure Tkill wasn't "bashing" YCMaker, but more defending him. I most certainly do not think JK or myself were bashing YCMaker, either. Read my post again. Also, I'll say once again it is OBVIOUS YCMaker has a life, but we don't KNOW this, we just see it HIGHLY LIKELY. We DO NOT know anything much about him at all. I never said that EVERYONE was selfless when it comes to wanting to be a mod, but I know none of the mods on here, perhaps with the exception of TO and darkguy who didn't want the power. Yankeefan, though, makes a good point. If you posted more often, YCMaker, you would prove that you do care for the site. Also, the whole time I have been trying to state that the forums are just one aspect of the site. I don't have YCMaker's take on things, but I must say that I would expect that the card maker is a higher priority than the forums - Why wouldn't they be? Any idiot can make a forum, but to make a card maker would take years of refinement. MY point is that YCMaker should be a more public figure. Maybe he could team up with a forum newspaper (if any are actually running any more) and write a short two or three paragraphs on what's going on with the forum in terms of updates and the like just so that he's a more public figure. @ hunterb: I must agree about your first sentence; I'm very pleased to see YCMaker defending himself - and having very strong arguments to back himself up. Your third paragraph - Rebuttal A: I'm breaking this into 2 parts. 1 about the admins' date=' and the other about backups. About the admins. Well that's all well and good, but what about adding more features to the forum, editing user profiles if need be, and all those billions of things mods can't do? I know there are a lot, I've used this software.[/quote']The more people that have root access to the server, the more potential there is for a security breach to occur. Everything else that you mentioned can be accomplished by a super mod. This is true, Darkthorne. However, Tkill is the only active Super Mod. Frunk is easier to break. *Cries* Alas' date=' it is true... :( 2. It's a point on both ends' date=' I suppose. You made a grammatical error, so I can't understand the part about adding mods. It may not be a pressing issue, but there's also adding things for convenience's sake. Say, and actual use for points? I don't know if they have an equivalent of the IbStore for MyBB, but that's a place to start. If you ever consider switching to IPB, there's a TON of things that can be added, if only for convenience and to attract more members. I'm going to guess that you don't want to take the time to do all that, so... yeah. But, that goes off my point. Sorry. What I'm trying to say is that Administration of a board is too much for one person to handle, and having other admins to lighten the load is a smart move. You also spelled [b']compliment[/b] wrong. I don't know what the coding looks like for skins on MyBB, but it can't be too far from IPB. Plugins built by others are especially vulnerable to security breaches, and honestly I don't believe the number of features a forum has should dictate how great of a forum it is. In the end, forums exist so that people can interact with one another, and I believe this forum currently provides such functionality. Also, my spelling of complements was correct, given the context of the word.He DID use the right form of Complement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complement v.s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliment Classic. Sig'd! I will now lock this. On a final note, an occasional appearance on an everyday thread in General or Games or somewhere would be nice to see from you, YCM. I hope you consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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