heraldry_lord Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I could see the 2-detach being the actual translation just to piss me off. The Xyz Change condition doesn't make sense though. The manga had it go up from Utopia Prime to this, and Prime is Rank 4. I know prints aren't going to follow exactly how it was done but usually cards like these fit those aesthic purpose. Yeah, it's really weird flavour-wise, but gameplay-wise, it makes some sense; with this Summoning Condition, it doesn't outright outclass Ray V and Victory, and you can't just plop this behemoth on top of standard Utopia or Utopia Roots without any drawbacks, but it unfortunately makes the card much less playable than before. I'm not sure which one I should go with; this one or the Org one (that is, the one in the OP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 If it's Rank 5 Utopia then it's garbageIf it's a Rank 4 Utopia then it's purely okay because it's going to be used for an Armades in certain match-ups. Has no built-in immunity and you can't bring it out vs something like Midrash so it's like oki.I'm not sure which one I should go with; this one or the Org one (that is, the one in the OP).Put both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_S39:_Utopia_the_Lightning you might want to check again.. It's back to claiming the effect from the first time around. Personally, I've had a look at it and it's way too blurry to make heads or tails of. However, if it is any Utopia, it's probably now the best Utopia Xyz, bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 It might need a Utopia of a specific Rank?! If it's 4, then it's still great and makes sense. Otherwise, it's terrible and illogical. I see it requiring a 4 because then it's a Rank-Up of either Utopia, Utopia Prime, or C39, while barring V, Victory, itself, and Beyond from becoming this. I'm worried it's 5, though, because that would explain why it prevents itself from being used as Xyz Material. Take note that No.95, which used Galaxy-Eyes Xyz, also cannot be used as Xyz Material (and Full Armor can't use itself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hunter_ Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 First one is... amazing; 5K Armades... Second one is utter garbage. Needs a Rank 5 (WTF) and detaches 2 Xyz Materials, not 1. Knowing lolnami, the latter will probably be the real effect... *weeps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Shining Numbers 39 Kibouou Hope the Lightning / Number S39: Utopia the LightningLight Warrior / Xyz / EffectRK5 2500/20003 Level 5 LIGHT monstersYou can also Xyz Summon this card by using a {Rank 5} “Utopia” monster you control as the Xyz Material. (Xyz Materials attached to that monster also become Xyz Materials on this card.) This card cannot be used as an Xyz Material for an Xyz Summon. (1) If this card attacks or is attacked, your opponent cannot activate cards or effects until the end of the Damage step. (2) If this card has a “Utopia” monster as an Xyz Material, when this card battles a monster, during damage calculations: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; this card’s ATK becomes 5000 during that damage calculation only. The Org Page currently has this as the effect. So the Rank 5 part is probably accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshends Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Even if it will have the 'rank 5' part, is still a very nice card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 So it probably needs a Rank 5, and only detaches 1. Hmm...so to use this AT ALL, you need to run a Rank-Up Magic for Victory or V. Which actually wouldn't be that terrible, since Hope Dragon can be Summoned by using any Utopia and ditching a RUM, plus it can Summon Numbers from the Graveyard. But it would drastically hurt this card's usability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 So it probably needs a Rank 5, and only detaches 1. Hmm...so to use this AT ALL, you need to run a Rank-Up Magic for Victory or V. Which actually wouldn't be that terrible, since Hope Dragon can be Summoned by using any Utopia and ditching a RUM, plus it can Summon Numbers from the Graveyard. But it would drastically hurt this card's usability. It's possible Konami is keeping their options open in case they choose to release Shining Force as a Utopia RUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCherries Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Shining Numbers 39 Kibouou Hope the Lightning / Number S39: Utopia the LightningLight Warrior / Xyz / EffectRK5 2500/20003 Level 5 LIGHT monstersYou can also Xyz Summon this card by using a {Rank 5} “Utopia” monster you control as the Xyz Material. (Xyz Materials attached to that monster also become Xyz Materials on this card.) This card cannot be used as an Xyz Material for an Xyz Summon. (1) If this card attacks or is attacked, your opponent cannot activate cards or effects until the end of the Damage step. (2) If this card has a “Utopia” monster as an Xyz Material, when this card battles a monster, during damage calculations: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; this card’s ATK becomes 5000 during that damage calculation only. The Org Page currently has this as the effect. So the Rank 5 part is probably accurate. goddammitit doesnt have to be rank 5can we let this one utopia be good come on manseeing as they put {Rank 5} instead of without the brackets i have some hope(HA) still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hey, look what probably just became shit. Rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hunter_ Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 >Konami >actually giving us something nice Hah. Trolled yet again. GG, lolnami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hey, look what probably just became s***. Rest in peace. It's still playable, it just needs to be run in Hope.dek instead of being splashable. ...No, wait, I see what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0SH1_M4S73R Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 It's still playable, it just needs to be run in Hope.dek instead of being splashable. Satellarknight Capella says that tellarknights can play this by replacing an Extra Deck slot with a C39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Satellarknight Capella says that tellarknights can play this by replacing an Extra Deck slot with a C39. But why would they ever do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 But why would they ever do that? because they suck at this game Or to just say they summoned him, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 But why would they ever do that? The point he's making is that it's not playable in just Utopia.dek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 The point he's making is that it's not playable in just Utopia.dek. I wouldn't quite call a subpar piece of shit decision in a deck with access to better Rank 4s than this 3 mat rank 5 that's hinging on one Satellar "playable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 I wouldn't quite call a subpar piece of s*** decision in a deck with access to better Rank 4s than this 3 mat rank 5 that's hinging on one Satellar "playable" Is there a word for "Possible to actually play in the deck"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Is there a word for "Possible to actually play in the deck"? Playable. He's thinking of the word "viable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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