Careless Whisper Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 He's not taking money from us, he gets payed by the people who let him host their ads, and everytime we look at a post an ad shows up, and those people who make that ad send him money. So why debate about that. Like I said, no one cares. And don't start a useless debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 dude your paranoid!!!!! Get the hell out of my topic' date=' you don't get it. He's not taking money from us, he gets payed by the people who let him host their ads, and everytime we look at a post an ad shows up, and those people who make that ad send him money. So why debate about that. Like I said, no one cares. And don't start a useless debate. Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors. That is the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 dude your paranoid!!!!! Are you saying that the ads do not generate money from the activities of minors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 dude your paranoid!!!!! No, your retarded. He's right, he OBVIOUSLY makes money, and if you don't see how that works, then grow up and learn how Economy works. Also, he DOESN'T CARE that he makes money, no one should, he's making money off of it, good for him, its not his fault our system Sucks. DUDE YOUR COMPREHENSION CHALLENGED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonwalk 2000 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money ..... because invision/some other site HOSTS it, and THEY get the money. Host your own site, and people will pay you to put ads on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we YCM need needs a debate forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we YCM need needs a debate forum. Seconded! And Moonwalk, your causing alot of hassle and i see a future flame war thus can you kindly please just agree to disagree on your points and stop posting, please. And even though he is not getting the points of the thread, guys, try not to flame him, wether or not you think it, calling him 'retarded', is not truely nice. Also On the point of the debate, it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. But is it ethical and moral to extort minors in order to profit off of them? Would not this site be counted as a form of drug, in that it takes something they enjoy and allows one to profit? On the point of the debate' date=' it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue.[/quote'] Read above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 If you want a debate section of the forum PM YCmaker himself. Or put it in the Suggestions section. Though I agree with having a debate section to rule out all the Discussion Threads. This topic wouldn't really match the Criteria. There is no Problem with making money, he's needs that money to take care of his personal life. No, he does not take money from minors, he makes money from the Advertisers that are hosted via YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 If you want a debate section of the forum PM YCmaker himself. Or put it in the Suggestions section. Though I agree with having a debate section to rule out all the Discussion Threads. This topic wouldn't really match the Criteria. There is no Problem with making money' date=' he's needs that money to take care of his personal life. No, he does not take money from minors, he makes money from the Advertisers that are hosted via YCM.[/quote'] THAT IS NOT THE DEBATE. READ THE RESOLUTION. pl0x TO BE LEAVING OTHERWISE. ALSO, WE KNOW. WE'RE NOT NOOBS. *Caps Lock makes you look sexy AND smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. But is it ethical and moral to extort minors in order to profit off of them? Would not this site be counted as a form of drug, in that it takes something they enjoy and allows one to profit? On the point of the debate' date=' it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue.[/quote'] Read above. If I'm not paying HIM for the drug, its not his business whether we get it or not even if he profits. Plus, drugs should be legal anyways (arguably not opiates or methanphetamines or GHB*), but almost anything else should be legal. Marijuana, Cocaine (not crack), Salvia (to minors) LSD and Shrooms, Ketamine, and prescription drugs should be legal and at the full disposal of any citizen of society FOR PERSONAL USE/TO BE SHARED OR USED BY ANYONE whom it would not kill (within reason, like if it would kill you within a month, then its technically poison, not a drug) * GHB because it is generally used to drug other people rather than for self use. We need a debate forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. But is it ethical and moral to extort minors in order to profit off of them? Would not this site be counted as a form of drug, in that it takes something they enjoy and allows one to profit? On the point of the debate' date=' it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue.[/quote'] Read above. If I'm not paying HIM for the drug, its not his business whether we get it or not even if he profits. Plus, drugs should be legal anyways (arguably not opiates or methanphetamines or GHB*), but almost anything else should be legal. Marijuana, Cocaine (not crack), Salvia (to minors) LSD and Shrooms, Ketamine, and prescription drugs should be legal and at the full disposal of any citizen of society FOR PERSONAL USE/TO BE SHARED OR USED BY ANYONE whom it would not kill (within reason, like if it would kill you within a month, then its technically poison, not a drug) * GHB because it is generally used to drug other people rather than for self use. We need a debate forum. But is extortion of minors justified only because the money isn't taken from them? Is it not still extortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. But is it ethical and moral to extort minors in order to profit off of them? Would not this site be counted as a form of drug, in that it takes something they enjoy and allows one to profit? On the point of the debate' date=' it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue.[/quote'] Read above. If I'm not paying HIM for the drug, its not his business whether we get it or not even if he profits. Plus, drugs should be legal anyways (arguably not opiates or methanphetamines or GHB*), but almost anything else should be legal. Marijuana, Cocaine (not crack), Salvia (to minors) LSD and Shrooms, Ketamine, and prescription drugs should be legal and at the full disposal of any citizen of society FOR PERSONAL USE/TO BE SHARED OR USED BY ANYONE whom it would not kill (within reason, like if it would kill you within a month, then its technically poison, not a drug) * GHB because it is generally used to drug other people rather than for self use. We need a debate forum. But is extortion of minors justified only because the money isn't taken from them? Is it not still extortion? I'd extort minors for money via selling drugs if my dad wouldn't kick me out of my house for finding the plants I would grow if I wouldn't get kicked out for growing them. I can't say its wrong to take advantage of someone else in a society where profitting is what we are made to strive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ugh, YCMaker does not make money from us looking at posts, and ads, he gets money every time we use the card generator. He has even stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Yankee, you don't get what's happening. Out pl0x. i see his point YCMaker isnot making money off this forum i have a web site with adds and yet i dont get truck loads of money 1. You're missing the point. 2. You don't own the ads' date=' your host does. [b']Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors.[/b] God damn, this is why we need a debate forum. I disagree It is wrong to have a system that lets anyone make more money than anyone else, but if we are stuck with it, it is not immoral to take advantage of the system, because its human nature, and we can't call human nature immoral, its the way we work, and its the NATURAL way we function. Blame the system for immorality, not the people who take advantage of it. And we NEED a debate forum. But is it ethical and moral to extort minors in order to profit off of them? Would not this site be counted as a form of drug, in that it takes something they enjoy and allows one to profit? On the point of the debate' date=' it is indeed wrong to take money off minors, however, he is not literally taking it off us ourselves, so i see no harm, let him continue.[/quote'] Read above. If I'm not paying HIM for the drug, its not his business whether we get it or not even if he profits. Plus, drugs should be legal anyways (arguably not opiates or methanphetamines or GHB*), but almost anything else should be legal. Marijuana, Cocaine (not crack), Salvia (to minors) LSD and Shrooms, Ketamine, and prescription drugs should be legal and at the full disposal of any citizen of society FOR PERSONAL USE/TO BE SHARED OR USED BY ANYONE whom it would not kill (within reason, like if it would kill you within a month, then its technically poison, not a drug) * GHB because it is generally used to drug other people rather than for self use. We need a debate forum. But is extortion of minors justified only because the money isn't taken from them? Is it not still extortion? I'd extort minors for money via selling drugs if my dad wouldn't kick me out of my house for finding the plants I would grow if I wouldn't get kicked out for growing them. I can't say its wrong to take advantage of someone else in a society where profitting is what we are made to strive for. Interesting point, but you missed the core of mine. Read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Just to clear some things up - I make next to nothing from the forum itself' date=' all site costs are paid for from what I make from the card maker. My reasons for keeping the forum up and running have nothing to do with what I expect to get back from it. Most of the work I do on this site is related to web server/hosting issues (of which there are many with a site this large), in addition to handling some of the more major conflicts that occur on the forum. There are a number of upgrades to the card maker that I want and have been working to implement, but its always a risk upgrading something that is already working, so I keep these upgrades to a minimum. I try to fix any technical problems as quickly as possible and while my presence on the forum is minimal, I have tried to build a site that is stable and reliable and hopefully contributes to the Yu-Gi-Oh community in ways that other sites do not. I don't think that its fair to claim that I don't care about this site based simply on the number of posts that I have, since my role here is vastly different than most other's. [/quote'] Posted in the "YCMaker...please" thread. The money he gets goes to the forum. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II DEFiiNED II Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Idk if YCMaker makes money for whatever we do, but whatever he does make money off of us LOOKING at, is wrong, and pathetic. ( I think ) And people says he does make money, and others say he doesn't. Yes, he does. This is off of this server, which means he owns it. * I think * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks for reading my above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 READ TOPIC PLEASE BEFORE POSTING, THANKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 He gets money to keep the site going. Just like the guy who owned GKO had to get money to keep it alive. he had to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikatsui Karite Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 every site gets money this way its their job my dad makes sites too and he says they make money theyre site someway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Read the resolution, then join the debate after reading the topic. Thanks. The resolution is... Resolved: That it is corrupt and immoral to make money off of minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUL Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 every site gets money this way its their job my dad makes sites too and he says they make money theyre site someway Not Every Site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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