sythcaris Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 [align=center]Cheerful Dark Magician Girl This card may not be Set. When this face-up card on the field is sent to the Graveyard you can draw 2 cards from your Deck. This card's name is treated as "Dark Magician Girl" while it's on the field or in the Graveyard. Dark Magic Draw You can only activate this card when there is a face-up "Dark Magician Girl" on your side of the field. Remove from play all monsters in your Graveyard. Draw 1 card from your Deck for each monster removed by this effect. Dark Magic Auraflame You must send 2 card from your hand to your Graveyard when you activate this card. This card can only be equipped to a face-up "Dark Magician Girl" on your side of the field. Negate the effect of a Spell or Trap Card (excluding this card) that specifically designates a monster equipped with this card as a target and destroy it. Increase the ATK of the equipped monster by 600.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sythcaris Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered Pot of Greed can be set' date=' but doing so is pointless. It's not a little overpowered, it's ridiculously overpowered. It's a pure +2 for no effort. admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show So not only are you unable to balance, you also lack originality? and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost It. Is. Underpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaman298 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I have to agree, dark magic draw is way, WAY!!!!!! To powerful and even if you could use it, it would be banned from tournaments as soon as it was brought out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaman298 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 seriously, do you think this is a good card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered Pot of Greed can be set' date=' but doing so is pointless. It's not a little overpowered, it's ridiculously overpowered. It's a pure +2 for no effort. admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show So not only are you unable to balance, you also lack originality? and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost It. Is. Underpowered. Cheerful Dark Magician Girl is not overpowered crab, reason jar of greed works faster than this card and gives the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered Pot of Greed can be set' date=' but doing so is pointless. It's not a little overpowered, it's ridiculously overpowered. It's a pure +2 for no effort. admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show So not only are you unable to balance, you also lack originality? and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost It. Is. Underpowered. Cheerful Dark Magician Girl is not overpowered crab' date=' reason jar of greed works faster than this card and gives the same effect.[/quote'] You are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered Pot of Greed can be set' date=' but doing so is pointless. It's not a little overpowered, it's ridiculously overpowered. It's a pure +2 for no effort. admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show So not only are you unable to balance, you also lack originality? and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost It. Is. Underpowered. Cheerful Dark Magician Girl is not overpowered crab' date=' reason jar of greed works faster than this card and gives the same effect.[/quote'] You are wrong.I am right. jar of reed works faster than this, but this gives you a +1 card over what you'll get from jar that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. cheerful dmg cant be set though so its pretty easy to destroy but i guess its a little overpowered Pot of Greed can be set' date=' but doing so is pointless. It's not a little overpowered, it's ridiculously overpowered. It's a pure +2 for no effort. admitadely dark magic draw is overpowered, but i took the effect directly from the show So not only are you unable to balance, you also lack originality? and auraflame isnt underpowered becuase even if you do have to discard 2 cards she is now unaffected by spell and trap cards not too mention she gets an atk boost It. Is. Underpowered. Cheerful Dark Magician Girl is not overpowered crab' date=' reason jar of greed works faster than this card and gives the same effect.[/quote'] You are wrong.I am right. jar of reed works faster than this, but this gives you a +1 card over what you'll get from jar that's all. 1. Depending on how it is used, Jar of Greed may not be faster.2. Jar of Greed has no legs.3. Trap recursion is much rarer than monster recursion.4. This card is better than Pot of Greed. Jar of Greed is useless except as deckthinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 1.Yes but only in 1 scenario.2. Jar of Greed has no legs. what does that mean ??4. This card is better than Pot of Greed. agree on first partJar of Greed is useless except as deckthinner. (wrong on second part.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks", it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Also I never said that assumptions again, i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. yes and that scenario is true. The only thing i think is the card should have a requirement that it should be destroyed in battle for its effect to activate. Also it should be limited to not allow abuse other than that its fairly stable. Also it seems you need an example. hand size 5. jar of greed-set it in my turn. my opponent's turn starts. opponent end phase flip jar of greed hand size now 6. draw phase. draw 1 card. hand size now 7. -----------------hand size is 5play pot of greed.hand size is now 7 ah need i say more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. yes and that scenario is true. Also it seems you need an example. hand size 5. jar of greed-set it in my turn. my opponent's turn starts. opponent end phase flip jar of greed hand size now 6. draw phase. draw 1 card. hand size now 7. -----------------hand size is 5play pot of greed.hand size is now 7 ah need i say more. Hand size 5 Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 6. Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 7. Doing nothing is clearly just like activating Pot of Greed, and therefore should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. yes and that scenario is true. Also it seems you need an example. hand size 5. jar of greed-set it in my turn. my opponent's turn starts. opponent end phase flip jar of greed hand size now 6. draw phase. draw 1 card. hand size now 7. -----------------hand size is 5play pot of greed.hand size is now 7 ah need i say more. Hand size 5 Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 6. Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 7. Doing nothing is clearly just like activating Pot of Greed, and therefore should be banned. Weak argument try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. yes and that scenario is true. Also it seems you need an example. hand size 5. jar of greed-set it in my turn. my opponent's turn starts. opponent end phase flip jar of greed hand size now 6. draw phase. draw 1 card. hand size now 7. -----------------hand size is 5play pot of greed.hand size is now 7 ah need i say more. Hand size 5 Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 6. Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 7. Doing nothing is clearly just like activating Pot of Greed, and therefore should be banned. Weak argument try again. My example is as valid as your example. Jar of Greed is a +0. Pot of Greed is a +1. Jar of Greed takes a turn to work. Pot of Greed works instantly. Jar of Greed =/= Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 2. "Legs" means it's a monster; it "walks"' date=' it attacks stuff, it absorbs attacks, and so on.4. So, you're saying it's better than Pot of Greed, but not as good as Jar of Greed, and not overpowered? Also, what good is Jar of Greed other than deckthinner? LOLWUT? The only MST-absorber thing is as situational as the COTH-is-better-than-MR thing, and is bad for the same reasons.[/quote'] WRONG ON ASSUMPTION, I CLEARLY STATED THAT ITS LIKE JAR OF GREED BUT WITH A +1 CARD SO ITS BETTER IN TERMS OF DRAWING THAN JAR, BUT NOT AS FAST. Your complete logic behind it not being overpowered was that "Jar is faster". Also I never said that assumptions again' date=' i never said it was as weak as jar of greed, its better. jar of greed is pot of greed but broken up into 2 parts, the drawing i mean.[/quote'] Jar of Greed is nothing like Pot of Greed. yes and that scenario is true. Also it seems you need an example. hand size 5. jar of greed-set it in my turn. my opponent's turn starts. opponent end phase flip jar of greed hand size now 6. draw phase. draw 1 card. hand size now 7. -----------------hand size is 5play pot of greed.hand size is now 7 ah need i say more. Hand size 5 Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 6. Do nothing for a turn. Draw Phase. Hand size 7. Doing nothing is clearly just like activating Pot of Greed, and therefore should be banned. Weak argument try again. My example is as valid as your example. Jar of Greed is a +0. Pot of Greed is a +1. Jar of Greed takes a turn to work. Pot of Greed works instantly. Jar of Greed =/= Pot of Greed.exactly jar of greed is pot of greed with a 1 turn waiting period. But they both do the same thing. Seeing how jar is at 3 and pot at 1 which one is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Overpowered pure and simple. Shonen you simply don't understand what is overpowered, you say almost every overpowered card isn't, get better judgement dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Overpowered pure and simple. Shonen you simply don't understand what is overpowered' date=' you say almost every overpowered card isn't, get better judgement dude.[/quote'] if that's the case then i would have said dark magic draw isn't but it is in my opinion. You tend to think anything that gives any kind of benefit is overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 No anything that gives a benefit without a good enough cost is overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Dimercurio Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cheerful DMG is ridiculously overpowered. It's a Pot of Greed with 1700 ATK. Dark Magic Draw is ridiculously overpowered. Dark Magic Auraflame is underpowered and not worth using. I agree -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 No anything that gives a benefit without a good enough cost is overpowered. so sakuretsu armor is broke in your eyes. benifit you destroy 1 monster, no cost. or swords of revealing light is broke to right. your opponent can't attack for 3 turns. no cost. So by your logic it must be overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 No anything that gives a benefit without a good enough cost is overpowered. so sakuretsu armor is broke in your eyes. lol that was nice back-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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