Aman Indra Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Vanquisher Of HellDARK/Monster/Effect3100 ATK / 0 DEFCannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Can only be Special Summoned (from your hand or graveyard) by banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard and cannot be special summoned by any other ways.When this card is special summoned from the hand : Target 2 cards on the field ; destroy them.When this card is special summoned from the graveyard : Special summon a FIEND type monster from either player's graveyard to your side of the field.You can only use 1 effect of "Vanquisher Of Hell" per turn and only once that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Uh, first of all, the last clause means you can literally never activate either of the other two effects, because the Summoning itself would be the "1" effect.I'm pretty sure you mean only for it to be referring to the last two, so I'll review as such. 1) A free pop-2 without any sort of actual restriction/cost/etc2) Oh yay, let's abuse more and get free revivals for literally no restriction/cost How about no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm not exactly seeing the vanquishing in this card. Special summoning any fiend monster would be the exact opposite of vanquishing Hell, a realm of fiends. I would suggest some sort of negation effect for this instead. As for the destroying 2 cards effect, I'm okay with it. If Mobius can do it when tribute summoned, this card can do it for banishing a light and dark monster. For the special summon effect, I'm not too fond of it. Special summon a Dark World monster then instantly pull it back for Grapha, thus getting a +1 off of it. Though, I can't stay too mad about it because Tellarknights can do it to for normal summoning a level 4 monster(God I hate Tellars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'm not exactly seeing the vanquishing in this card. Special summoning any fiend monster would be the exact opposite of vanquishing Hell, a realm of fiends. I would suggest some sort of negation effect for this instead. As for the destroying 2 cards effect, I'm okay with it. If Mobius can do it when tribute summoned, this card can do it for banishing a light and dark monster. For the special summon effect, I'm not too fond of it. Special summon a Dark World monster then instantly pull it back for Grapha, thus getting a +1 off of it. Though, I can't stay too mad about it because Tellarknights can do it to for normal summoning a level 4 monster(God I hate Tellars) Uh, first of all, the last clause means you can literally never activate either of the other two effects, because the Summoning itself would be the "1" effect.I'm pretty sure you mean only for it to be referring to the last two, so I'll review as such. 1) A free pop-2 without any sort of actual restriction/cost/etc2) Oh yay, let's abuse more and get free revivals for literally no restriction/cost How about no.you need grave setup for this to work and if you are playing ygo for a while , there are much more abusable cards out there which this card can't even be compared with. The pop 2 on banishing a dark and light is not op in my opinion , not after seeing the current cardpool of the game.Yeah , i hate tellars too , but not so much now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 > needs grave set up> needs 1 LIGHT/1 DARK """"""""""setup""""""""""" > much more avusable cards out thereSo, just because Koomy makes dumbass broken sheet sometimes, that means you should too? Great idea there buddy, but y'know, personally, I'd rather try making good cards which /aren't/ broken pieces of sheet. > not broken after seeing current cardpoolI'm assuming you're looking at meta, and meta isn't really a good standard to make cards around, considering Koomy likes to power meta up (obviously), so they can get sales, because said meta is overwhelmingly powerful in comparison to other decks.Refer to my above comment; just because the company makes broken crap doesn't mean you should too, their standards are sheet and the point of cardmaking is to try and be better than that (besides having fun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 > needs grave set up> needs 1 LIGHT/1 DARK""""""""""setup""""""""""" > much more avusable cards out thereSo, just because Koomy makes dumbass broken s*** sometimes, that means you should too? Great idea there buddy, but y'know, personally, I'd rather try making good cards which /aren't/ broken pieces of s***. > not broken after seeing current cardpoolI'm assuming you're looking at meta, and meta isn't really a good standard to make cards around, considering Koomy likes to power meta up (obviously), so they can get sales, because said meta is overwhelmingly powerful in comparison to other decks.Refer to my above comment; just because the company makes broken crap doesn't mean you should too, their standards are s*** and the point of cardmaking is to try and be better than that (besides having fun).konami has a real nasty hater i guess , no prob lol have fun.also i would like to know on a side note how is popping 2 on a banish summon or ss a fiend from grave abusable or broke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 konami has a real nasty hater i guess , no prob lol have fun.also i would like to know on a side note how is popping 2 on a banish summon or ss a fiend from grave abusable or broke ?Eh, Koomy being an idiot with card design is sort of blatantly obvious. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ First of all, the Summon is ridiculously easy to do.Second of all, think of it like BLS for example, BLS is limited, it has 2 effects. One is a banish, but it prevents BP, that's a huge drawback. The other requires destroying a monster by battle to be able to attack again, which is also a restriction of sorts. For this, you literally have no requirements or drawbacks. You summon, you can instantly pop 2.Third, the last effect is literally just a Monster Reborn for Fiends. That also has no requirements, drawbacks, or any sort of cost.Can you not see the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Eh, Koomy being an idiot with card design is sort of blatantly obvious. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ First of all, the Summon is ridiculously easy to do.Second of all, think of it like BLS for example, BLS is limited, it has 2 effects. One is a banish, but it prevents BP, that's a huge drawback. The other requires destroying a monster by battle to be able to attack again, which is also a restriction of sorts. For this, you literally have no requirements or drawbacks. You summon, you can instantly pop 2.Third, the last effect is literally just a Monster Reborn for Fiends. That also has no requirements, drawbacks, or any sort of cost.Can you not see the issue?funny thing i tested this on duel portal , the duels with it were decent and all my opponents told and stated that it wasnt broke. So , yeah its hard to see the problem you are stating. And not all good effects come with drawbacks (again , that's a reality check) , and pop 2 on banish summon and ss a fiend once per turn that too on summon isnt broke as mentioned by ghost above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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