Card Trooper:Discussion

[jhcman21]

I just wanna ask you guys, what makes this card so good,

so anyway Discussion on Card Trooper

[CrabHelmet]

IMG tags.

 

Also, good card.

 

Also, I run it.

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

He's a +0 that can mill your deck for you. Might be good in some instances, but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia or Chain Gate.

[CrabHelmet]

He's a +0 that can mill your deck for you. Might be good in some instances' date=' but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia or Chain Gate.

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My deck requires me to have a Limited card in my hand in order to win, and I still use him. >.>

[cyberdude]

Hmm ill try to explain this as best as i can

 

Card trooper is good for plenty of reasons

1 it lets you mill 3 cards that mabey can hinder you from getting what you need

2 if you need cards in the grave for a effect such as DAD {useing as example} its good that way to

3 the draw one card when its destroyed can save you noumerous times

[CrabHelmet]

1 it lets you mill 3 cards that mabey can hinder you from getting what you need

 

The only difference between a card that sits on the bottom of your deck and never gets drawn and a card that is milled by Card Trooper is that cards milled by Card Trooper can be recursed through effects.

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

He's a +0 that can mill your deck for you. Might be good in some instances' date=' but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia or Chain Gate.

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My deck requires me to have a Limited card in my hand in order to win, and I still use him. >.>

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back. I'm just using those as examples without recovery cards.

[cyberdude]

True so true

[RiffMaster Alex]

IMG tags.

 

Also' date=' good card.

 

Also, I run it.

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How can you run it? All you have is mechanical snail....I run this card though .

[CrabHelmet]

He's a +0 that can mill your deck for you. Might be good in some instances' date=' but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia or Chain Gate.

[/quote']

 

My deck requires me to have a Limited card in my hand in order to win, and I still use him. >.>

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back. I'm just using those as examples without recovery cards.

 

If you're using Card Trooper but can't take advantage of his mill effect, you're doing it wrong. By definition, decks running him run recursion that can use the cards that get milled. As such, he actually makes it easier to get your hands on the card you want (but of course, in Deck = Hand format, this effect is reduced slightly).

[cyberdude]

uhhm Crabby is the epitome of pro yugioh of course he owns a trooper

[CrabHelmet]

Lawl. My ONLY card is Mechanical Snail. I don't play IRL; I run Trooper on YVD.

[cyberdude]

OHHH well your still the epitome of pro yugioh

[Gravitize Me Cap'n!]

He's a +0

No he isn't.

 

Might be good in some instances, but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia

You're telling me Card Trooper's milling is counter-productive with Manticore's recursion effect? You know, the one that's trigger by said milling?

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back.

Yes, and you also have Monster Reborn, LaDD, Premature Burial, D-fusion, Return, DDR, etc to get THOSE back.

[jhcman21]

ya, i need to get a card trooper

[cyberdude]

Thats it im negging you please stop with the itidotic posts

[CrabHelmet]

ya' date=' i need to get a card trooper

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Ooh, so this is the sort of informed response to our comments that you were planning on making.

 

10/10

[jhcman21]

guys, why are you doing this IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE TOPICS GO DO SOMETHING ELSE, ITS NOT LIKE I AM FORCING YOU TO READ MY TOPICS

[cyberdude]

thats the thing though these topics are stupid and pointless i mean when we give you advice and you dont take it why ask at all

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

He's a +0

No he isn't.

 

Might be good in some instances' date=' but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia[/quote']

You're telling me Card Trooper's milling is counter-productive with Manticore's recursion effect? You know, the one that's trigger by said milling?

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back.

Yes, and you also have Monster Reborn, LaDD, Premature Burial, D-fusion, Return, DDR, etc to get THOSE back.

 

I thought he was a +0. I guess his drawing effect doesn't replace him then?

 

In Manticore Exodia, you probably won't send manticore to the grave and then have him return so easily. Plus, you could also send copies of CoSR to the grave, slowing down your OTK.

And about the DMoC / MSE thing? Nice quoting out of context.

It was for Crab's REBMD deck, not supposedly counting all of the cards that could get back things milled by Trooper.

[CrabHelmet]

He's a +0

No he isn't.

 

Might be good in some instances' date=' but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia[/quote']

You're telling me Card Trooper's milling is counter-productive with Manticore's recursion effect? You know, the one that's trigger by said milling?

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back.

Yes, and you also have Monster Reborn, LaDD, Premature Burial, D-fusion, Return, DDR, etc to get THOSE back.

 

I thought he was a +0. I guess his drawing effect doesn't replace him then?

 

He's a +1. Trooper's destruction is not a cost.

 

In Manticore Exodia' date=' you probably won't send manticore to the grave and then have him return so easily. Plus, you could also send copies of CoSR to the grave, slowing down your OTK.

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Bottom of deck, etc.

 

And about the DMoC / MSE thing? Nice quoting out of context.

It was for Crab's REBMD deck' date=' not supposedly counting all of the cards that could get back things milled by Trooper.

[/quote']

 

And again, you wouldn't be running Trooper if you aren't running recursion. It's like saying Dark Armed Dragon is bad because it doesn't work in a deck without DARK monsters.

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

He's a +0

No he isn't.

 

[Might be good in some instances' date= but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia[/quote]

You're telling me Card Trooper's milling is counter-productive with Manticore's recursion effect? You know, the one that's trigger by said milling?

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back.

Yes, and you also have Monster Reborn, LaDD, Premature Burial, D-fusion, Return, DDR, etc to get THOSE back.

 

I thought he was a +0. I guess his drawing effect doesn't replace him then?

 

He's a +1. Trooper's destruction is not a cost.

 

In Manticore Exodia' date=' you probably won't send manticore to the grave and then have him return so easily. Plus, you could also send copies of CoSR to the grave, slowing down your OTK.

[/quote']

 

Bottom of deck, etc.

 

And about the DMoC / MSE thing? Nice quoting out of context.

It was for Crab's REBMD deck' date=' not supposedly counting all of the cards that could get back things milled by Trooper.

[/quote']

 

And again, you wouldn't be running Trooper if you aren't running recursion. It's like saying Dark Armed Dragon is bad because it doesn't work in a deck without DARK monsters.

 

K, now I get the +1 thing, but you lost me on the bottom of the deck part. Manticore won't always be located on the bottom of the deck. Lastly, Yes, I know it's stupid to run it in a deck that can't get back the milled cards. Why do you think I said

Might be good in some instances, but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia

?

[Gravitize Me Cap'n!]

I thought he was a +0.

Monsters, unlike S/T, start off +0; the draw effect puts him at +1.

 

In Manticore Exodia, you probably won't send manticore to the grave

And if you do?

 

And about the DMoC / MSE thing? Nice quoting out of context.

It's completely within context. I even included the period. Unless, you're claiming that said punctuation does not dictate the end of sentence, concluding a complete thought, then in which case your grasp of English syntax, or lack thereof, is your undoing. But let's not argue semantics, because you're just wrong.

 

It was for Crab's REBMD deck, not supposedly counting all of the cards that could get back things milled by Trooper.

You're telling me he doesn't run D-fusion/Monster Reborn/Premature Burial?

[CrabHelmet]

He's a +0

No he isn't.

 

[Might be good in some instances' date= but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia[/quote]

You're telling me Card Trooper's milling is counter-productive with Manticore's recursion effect? You know, the one that's trigger by said milling?

 

Yes, but you have a DMoC and 1 (2)? MSE in there to get it back.

Yes, and you also have Monster Reborn, LaDD, Premature Burial, D-fusion, Return, DDR, etc to get THOSE back.

 

I thought he was a +0. I guess his drawing effect doesn't replace him then?

 

He's a +1. Trooper's destruction is not a cost.

 

In Manticore Exodia' date=' you probably won't send manticore to the grave and then have him return so easily. Plus, you could also send copies of CoSR to the grave, slowing down your OTK.

[/quote']

 

Bottom of deck, etc.

 

And about the DMoC / MSE thing? Nice quoting out of context.

It was for Crab's REBMD deck' date=' not supposedly counting all of the cards that could get back things milled by Trooper.

[/quote']

 

And again, you wouldn't be running Trooper if you aren't running recursion. It's like saying Dark Armed Dragon is bad because it doesn't work in a deck without DARK monsters.

 

K, now I get the +1 thing, but you lost me on the bottom of the deck part. Manticore won't always be located on the bottom of the deck. Lastly, Yes, I know it's stupid to run it in a deck that can't get back the milled cards. Why do you think I said

Might be good in some instances, but not in decks that require certains cards, I.E. Manticore Exodia

?

 

Manticore has the same chance of being on the bottom of the deck (to never be drawn) as it has of being on the top of the deck (to be milled). The same goes for COSR.

 

Also, saying you shouldn't run it in a deck where you can't use it is too obvious to be worth saying.