changeofheart10 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The picture was done by laurence miller at laurencemillergallery.com/contortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larharlx Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Its Good i think-The OCG is off i think and i dont know why but it hurts my eyes to read o_O btw it dosnt have a set ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 hmm well cards usually dont use ATK points or DEF points.rating7/10 ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 How much do you decrease the DEF by initially? Or am I misunderstanding because of the dodgy OCG? I think what you mean is something along the lines of: Switch the original ATK and DEF of the equipped monster. Any additions and subtractions to ATK and DEF due to card effects are applied to the new ATK and DEF. Repeat this effect during each of your Standby Phases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 When this card is equipped to a monster, add the DEF of the selected monster to it's ATK points. The next turn of this card's activation switch the ATK points to the DEF points. Continue switching the ATK and DEF's points each turn. Hope I Helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 For every turn you switch the ATK and DEF you must pay 200 points for each Equip Spell Card on the Field. Why does it need a cost? It's got a downside already... let's face it, United We Stand and Mage Power don't have a cost, and they're much better equips than this card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Because it will be overpowered don't you know what balanced means. Yeah but they are limited just 1 card must be in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Because it will be overpowered don't you know what balanced means. Yeah but they are limited just 1 card must be in the game I know what balanced means thanks, there's no need to get all uppity about it. My point is that there are already equips more powerful than this in the game that don't require a cost. Who's to say this card this card can't be limited as well? Besides, there's already a downside to this card - you have to keep switching the ATK and DEF of the card. This isn't always going to work to your advantage. It's down to the skill of the duelist to make this card work - it's not inherent in the card itself. At the end of the day, it's just a simple equip spell and can be destroyed in a multitude of ways. In my opinion, it really doesn't need a cost to make it balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 OK it's OK for him to take out the paying part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneweasel Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I like it, the OCG is a bit off but I like the card, it seems fairly well balanced for an equip card as it has the potential to be stuck in attack with 0 ATK points or stuck in defence with 0 DEF points. With the current OCG errors I give it 7/10 sort out the OCG and I will rate it higher. SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Hand Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The OCG is off but I understand it perfectly. Here's a translation: "When this card is equipped to a monster, decrease its DEF by any amount. Add the same amount to the equipped monster's ATK. During your Standby Phase, switch the ATK and DEF of the equipped monster." It would be good on a card like "Gear Golem the Moving Fortress". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 NO by any amount is wrong please look at my correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 NO by any amount is wrong please look at my correction. Are you double-accounting with changeofheart10? If not, why not let him/her speak for him/herself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Double accounting no way he should see first what people wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneweasel Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 What says your assumption about what the original poster is more accurate than Giga Hands? personally I think Giga Hand is more likely to be on the money as to what the original poster meant and his correction is better OCG as well. Good work Giga Hand. Poor show CN. SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Poor show you can't see the broken language I've collected more cards than you think I read the original balanced book of yugi, you don't know anything your talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Bouncing off of Giga Hand's correction; he's close, but no cigar. "When this card is equipped to a monster, decrease the equipped monster's DEF by an amount equal to its DEF and increase the equipped monster's ATK by the same amount. During your Standby Phase, switch the ATK and DEF of the equipped monster." This is what it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I've collected more cards than you think I read the original balanced book of yugi' date=' you don't know anything your talking about.[/quote'] So what?! You're totally up yourself!!! It doesn't matter how many cards you have or how many YGO books you've read - that doesn't mean you are right about everything! Guess what, you don't know everything, and the more you claim you do, the more of an idiot you make yourself look. You have an opinion, and that's fine - everyone is entitled to an opinion - but just because it's your opinion that doesn't mean it's the only one worth taking into account. Nobody cares if you've got three of every card in existence, or even if you wrote all the YGO books - you are are still an over-opinionated, arrogant little idiot who can't seem to accept that other people have different views from your own. Once again - get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72night Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 @Rawlyn: Sorry for getting involved...But isn't it ironic how your telling Crimson that he is a "over-opinionated, arrogant little idiot" when your the one shotting down every negative opinions that people make on this card? Let them say their opinion, as you've said. Get over yourself, you don't know everything yourself. >_> I mean really, he was just trying to help this guy and you just come and shot down his reasons. This isn't your thread to defend your "perfect" cards at. Make your own thread and yell at people, don't do that on some else's (I doubt the creator of this thread even cares..). And most negative comments on this forum makes most people become better. It actually helps them.Sorry if I offended you, doubt I did XD. ^_^ _____________________________ I won't say the OCG errors like the people above me. Since I probably will be called a "over-opinionated, arrogant little idiot" by a "over-caring, over-opinionated, arrogant little idiot". And I have to get going.____________________________ But the idea is good. ^_^ So good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Why thank you 72night I appreciate your help. Well rawyln or whatever your name is let me tell you something you think your smart but your not even if I wrote the yugioh book do you think I'll let you play this game with your bad attitude of course no. If you have anything to say, say it in a PM because we don't want to ruin this thread or move to another subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie016 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 If their too confusing, then why use them? It's a plain and simple question right? if a card is too complicated to even understand, why use it at all? It's only going to make matter more complicating on that note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawlyn Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 @Rawlyn: Sorry for getting involved... No need to apologise' date=' this is a public discussion after all. But isn't it ironic how your telling Crimson that he is a "over-opinionated, arrogant little idiot" when your the one shotting down every negative opinions that people make on this card? Let them say their opinion, as you've said. Er... I have been... Get over yourself' date=' you don't know everything yourself.[/quote'] I never claimed I did. I mean really' date=' he was just trying to help this guy and you just come and shot down his reasons.[/quote'] Yes, that's the nature of a debate. This isn't your thread to defend your "perfect" cards at. Make your own thread and yell at people' date=' don't do that on some else's (I doubt the creator of this thread even cares..).[/quote'] Wouldn't a thread to discuss another thread somewhat defy the object of a forum? And most negative comments on this forum makes most people become better. It actually helps them. When someone offered an alternative effect to his own he screamed "NO" at them. That's not a helpful negative comment (or "constructive criticism") - that's just shouting' date=' something that we all have the right to be offended by. Sorry if I offended you, doubt I did XD. ^_^ It's quite alright, no offence was taken as you said nothing offensive (apart from a touch of sarcasm, but that's nothing to cry about). Some good points well made, even if you have slightly misinterpreted what I've been saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie016 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 why are they fighting?! i hate fighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KAJN Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yeah well rawyln thinks he's better than everyone and he thinks that the person who made this thread shouldn't take advice from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie016 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Self-Idiotcary. I swear! they need to grow up for real! they're not babies aor brats! they need to act the darn age! (i would Swear but, i don't want to get into trouble, so i won't) But ACT YOUR DARN AGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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