JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I. Forbidden Cards You cannot use these cards in your Deck or Side Deck: ACCUMULATED FORTUNEALL-OUT ATTACKSALLURE OF DARKNESSBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD OF SAFE RETURNCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon)CHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCONFISCATIONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER END DRAGONCYBER JARCYBER-STEINCYBER TWIN DRAGONDAIROKKAN (Sixth Sense)DARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARKLORD ZERATODARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDECK DEVASTATION VIRUSDELINQUENT DUODESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDERDIMENSION FUSIONEPIDEMIC ERADICATION VIRUSEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFIBER JARGOLD SARCOPHAGUSGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERJUDGMENT DRAGONLAST TURNLAST WILLLIFE EQUALIZERLIMITER REMOVALMAGICAL EXPLOSIONMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMEGAMORPHMEIFU NO SHISHA GOES (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness)MIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNMORPHING JARNOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUTPAINFUL CHOICEPHANTOM OF CHAOSPOT OF GREEDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONREVERSAL QUIZRING OF DESTRUCTIONSINISTER SERPENTSKY SCOURGE NORLERASSNATCH STEALSNIPE HUNTERTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRAP DUSTSHOOTTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGUNITED WE STANDVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - Accumulated Fortune, All-Out Attacks, Allure of Darkness, Card of Safe Return, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon (Chimeratech Fortress Dragon), Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber End Dragon, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dairokkan (Sixth Sense), Dark Armed Dragon, Darklord Zerato, Dark Magician of Chaos, Deck Devastation Virus, Destiny Hero - Disk Commander, Epidemic Eradication Virus, Exodia the Forbidden One, Gold Sarcophagus, Judgment Dragon, Life Equalizer, Limiter Removal, Magical Explosion, Megamorph, Meifu no Shisha Goes (Gorz the Emissary of Darkness), Monster Reborn, Morphing Jar, Nobleman of Crossout, Phantom of Chaos, Premature Burial, Return from the Different Dimension, Reversal Quiz, Sky Scourge Norleras, Snipe Hunter, Trap Dustshoot, Ultimate Offering, United We Stand II. Limited Cards You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined: ARCANA FORCE 0 - THE FOOL BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR CARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECHAIN STRIKECYBER DRAGONDANDELION (Dandylion)DEMISE-KING OF ARMEGEDDONELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSGIANT TRUNADEGRAVITY BINDGREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTHEAVY STORMLEVEL LIMIT - AREA BLIMIT REVERSEMAGIC CYLINDERMARSHMALLONMIRROR FORCENECROFACENIGHT ASSAILANT OJAMA TRIORAIZA THE STORM MONARCHSANGANSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTREEBORN FROGTWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH NEW! - Arcana Force 0 - The Fool, Necroface, Cyber Dragon, Breaker the Magical Warrior, Limit Reverse, Demise-King of Armegddon NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Book of Moon, Brain Control, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Hero - Malicious, Fissure, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Light and Darkness Dragon, Mage Power, Magical Stone Excavation, Magician of Faith, Manticore of Darkness, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mind Crush, Mystical Space Typhoon, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, Overload Fusion, Reinforcement of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right Leg of the Forbidden One, Royal Decree, Scapegoat, Smashing Ground, The Transmigration Prophecy, Torrential Tribute, Wall of Revealing Light I was thinking about limiting six samurai united but i wasnt sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 You're Limiting a Fusion Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 You're Limiting a Fusion Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 stops multiples in graveyard leading to lots swarming the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 stops multiples in graveyard leading to lots swarming the field How exactly are you going to get more than 1 in the Graveyard in the first place, considering that you have to Fusion Summon them first in order for their recursion effects to take effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 with future fusion being unlimited there is always a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 stops multiples in graveyard leading to lots swarming the field That would require a 6-card combo. >______> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Does it matter if it is limited if no one ever summons more than one it wont make a difference it just stops stackers from getting a hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Does it matter if it is limited if no one ever summons more than one it wont make a difference it just stops stackers from getting a hold But why is the swarming bad in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Stackers will always win. No list will stop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 dragoons effect makes getting two on the field hard to beat, and with the revival it can be an dangerous combo, whilst i agree that limiting it would be debatable it would certainly not harm the meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 dragoons effect makes getting two on the field hard to beat' date='[/quote'] Dragoon's effect makes getting two on the field hard, and with the revival it can be an dangerous combo' date='[/quote'] and with the revival it can still be a 6-card combo, whilst i agree that limiting it would be debatable whilst I agree that Limiting him appears nonsensical if you consider how impossible it is to get two copies of him out' date=' it would certainly not harm the meta Semi-Limit Larvae Moth. That wouldn't harm the meta either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Nice, but why exactly is Nobleman of Crossout banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Nice' date=' but why exactly is Nobleman of Crossout banned?[/quote'] For the same reason it's banned on the Atem list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yea i see your reasoning, i will edit, but if a miracle fusion for detiny heros came around it should be limited Exiro- Flip effects are already bad enough having nobleman about just isnt right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Why are Demise and Cydra at 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Demise is at 1 because ARA is unlimit, unlimiting ARA without touching demise would bring up alot of demise decks which is not the main purpose of unlimiting ARA. I unlimited ARA to allow other ritual decks to actual have some competitiveness. Cydra at one because semi limit is pointless and i dont think it should be banned because with disk banned monarchs lack consistence and cydra can be run in 1s with very little effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Demise is at 1 because ARA is unlimit' date=' unlimiting ARA without touching demise would bring up alot of demise decks which is not the main purpose of unlimiting ARA. I unlimited ARA to allow other ritual decks to actual have some competitiveness.[/quote'] Obviously ARA should be at 3, but 1 Demise? Demise is a 3 or 0 card; he doesn't help the game at 1 but hurt it at 3. Cydra at one because semi limit is pointless and i dont think it should be banned because with disk banned monarchs lack consistence and cydra can be run in 1s with very little effect That still doesn't explain why Cydra isn't at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Nice' date=' but why exactly is Nobleman of Crossout banned?[/quote'] For the same reason it's banned on the Atem list. Oh, didn't notice it was there too (that list is huge). Well, I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 show how cyber dragon hurts the meta at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonenhikada Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Oh my god are you gonna ban 25 % of the cards in the game. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 show how cyber dragon hurts the meta at 1 show how cyber dragon hurts the meta at 3 Oh my god are you gonna ban 25 % of the cards in the game. lol. You're the one who wanted Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity legal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 cyber dargon hurts the meta at 3 because it rewards the player for doing badly. Essentially it is a very watered down Gorz. You have no field advantage and this allows you to have a free special summon to punish maybe a good play by your opponent. At 3 cyber dragon would be used too consistently and make opponents think about setting a monster on first turn, this is believe would hurt the meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Oh my god are you gonna ban 25 % of the cards in the game. lol. If you think this has many bans, look up Atem's list. If you think Atem's list has many bans, look up the list that banned all cards until Gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Oh my god are you gonna ban 25 % of the cards in the game. lol. This list has 100 Bans and Limitations. The actual list has 107 Bans, Limitations, and Semi-Limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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