~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 XD I gotta make a card that provokes arguing. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 lol Make a Metal God card. lol jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Diviner Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sorry but Kizzi is obviously right.Titus and Random 6-Post noob :He means he doesn;t Special Summon it.He uses the cards as support for something else.I'm not expert but I can easily follow the better mans argument, I try not to offend you Titus but I am just stating Kizzi is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Sorry but Kizzi is obviously right.Titus and Random 6-Post noob :He means he doesn;t Special Summon it.He uses the cards as support for something else.I'm not expert but I can easily follow the better mans argument' date=' I try not to offend you Titus but I am just stating Kizzi is right[/quote']I'm not saying anything against REBMD. I never even said it's not better than BEWMD. I'm just saying that BEWMD is not weaker than REBMD. If kizzi meant BEWMD is not as good as REBMD, then he should have said that. That's how this whole thing started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanimir Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 As a matter of fact, I would not add this card to my deck...Just to hard to summon and to easy to get rid of.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 As a matter of fact' date=' I would not add this card to my deck...Just to hard to summon and to easy to get rid of.5/10[/quote']Nobody who is smart would. Summoning any of the Metal cards is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 lol Make a Metal God card. lol jk As you wish, XD http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/showthread.php?tid=44432 Lolzomg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 lol Make a Metal God card. lol jk As you wish' date=' XD http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/showthread.php?tid=44432 Lolzomg![/quote'] DUDE! I cannot believe you actually did it. :P But nah, that was more of a joke, so I don't think there's gonna be any fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 There's too much fail in this topic for me to directly reply to all of it without taking all night, so I'm just going to say stuff that counters your attempts to make points, so I'm hoping you're able to match your arguments to my counterarguments. It's like that one Fisher Price game where you put the square blocks in the square holes and stuff, except it involves Crab Helmet being right about card games instead of five-year-olds being right about random little geometric shapes. Speaking of toys for five-year-olds, it's time for today's first grade lesson to begin, and the first class today is READING. Now, today's first class is reading. I say that I run Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but I also say that nobody but a terrible duelist would actually summon them. The logical conclusion? I use Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but not for the purposes of summoning them, since any idiot can see that summoning them is retarded. (You might argue that the real logical conclusion is that Crab Helmet is retarded, but if you tried to do that everyone would laugh at you, because you'd be wrong, and in fact they already have started laughing at you as a result of your wrongness.) Ask yourself: What would make Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa worth running? Let's look at their distinguishing characteristics. Both are Level 8. Both are DARK. Both are Machine-Type. Both are Nomi. If you don't know what "Nomi" means, look it up on the wiki. Now. ask yourself: Why would people use Level 8 DARK Nomi monsters that can't be summoned? Look at the level. Level 8. Trade-In fodder. Look at the Attribute. DARK. Allure of Darkness fodder. Observe that it's Nomi. Recall that Reasoning and Monster Gate are not interrupted by Nomi monsters, and therefore can easily mill them to the graveyard. Obviously, these cards are designed to be sent to the graveyard. Now, you may well ask, "Crab Helmet, you dashingly handsome genius, why would you use those cards if you only use them in order to send them to the graveyard? Is it for Rainbow Dark Dragon?" To this, I would respond, "No, you fool. Rainbow Dark Dragon sucks, and so do decks built around him." I would then proceed to explain that, as they are both Machine-Type, they provide food to increase the attacking power and capabilities of a certain monster that can be summoned via Overload Fusion. Reasoning and Monster Gate mill large amounts of the deck quickly, making it easy to dump Overload Fusion and then retrieve it with Dark Magician of Chaos or Magical Stone Excavation. But in order to actually go through the deck quickly, the non-Nomi monster count must be low; however, few monsters would normally mean that a certain Fusion Monster wouldn't have high ATK. Solution? Nomi Machines. Now, what makes Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa more useful than this card? DARK and Level 8 means Allure and Trade-In food, respectively, which solves the problem of dead hands. This card is LIGHT and Level 10, making it incompatible with both draw engines and therefore not worth running; if I wanted a Nomi Machine that couldn't be used with Trade-In OR Allure, I would be bad at this game, but more importantly, I would use Gradius Option, or Cyber Barrier Dragon, or Cyber Laser Dragon, or Machiners Force. There, you just made me spoon-feed you the answer. I hope you're happy. Also, if Konami makes cards that appear sucky to those who aren't good enough at this game to use them properly, there's no reason to make cards that actually are sucky based of said "sucky" cards. If your card sucked, it's your fault, not the fault of the card off of which you were basing it, since you chose to base if off that card without making it better, and if the card you made actually turned out to be worse, you completely fail. Also, since anybody who doesn't suck at this game knows that ATK is unimportant, especially on such a small scale, calling one card weaker than another is understood by half-decent players to be comparing their usefulness rather than their raw ATK. Therefore, this blue-eyed metallic dragon-shaped thing is weaker than Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon for all intents and purposes of the word "weaker" that awesome people use. Also, a metal god card already exists. His name is Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, but he prefers the name REDRUM, because it's MURDER backwards, which is how hardcore Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is. Also, this card in general is pointless. The art is terrible. The OCG is terrible, even though all that is required to fix the OCG is to copy and paste the text of an existing card, something that a trained monkey could do but that seems to be too difficult for the topic creator. The idea has no originality whatsoever. The card is so ridiculously underpowered that it is utterly useless and completely unplayable. In short, this card completely sucks and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, so stop trying to pretend it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 There's too much fail in this topic for me to directly reply to all of it without taking all night' date=' so I'm just going to say stuff that counters your attempts to make points, so I'm hoping you're able to match your arguments to my counterarguments. It's like that one Fisher Price game where you put the square blocks in the square holes and stuff, except it involves Crab Helmet being right about card games instead of five-year-olds being right about random little geometric shapes. Speaking of toys for five-year-olds, it's time for today's first grade lesson to begin, and the first class today is READING. Now, today's first class is reading. I say that I [b']run[/b] Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but I also say that nobody but a terrible duelist would actually summon them. The logical conclusion? I use Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but not for the purposes of summoning them, since any idiot can see that summoning them is retarded. (You might argue that the real logical conclusion is that Crab Helmet is retarded, but if you tried to do that everyone would laugh at you, because you'd be wrong, and in fact they already have started laughing at you as a result of your wrongness.) Ask yourself: What would make Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa worth running? Let's look at their distinguishing characteristics. Both are Level 8. Both are DARK. Both are Machine-Type. Both are Nomi. If you don't know what "Nomi" means, look it up on the wiki. Now. ask yourself: Why would people use Level 8 DARK Nomi monsters that can't be summoned? Look at the level. Level 8. Trade-In fodder. Look at the Attribute. DARK. Allure of Darkness fodder. Observe that it's Nomi. Recall that Reasoning and Monster Gate are not interrupted by Nomi monsters, and therefore can easily mill them to the graveyard. Obviously, these cards are designed to be sent to the graveyard. Now, you may well ask, "Crab Helmet, you dashingly handsome genius, why would you use those cards if you only use them in order to send them to the graveyard? Is it for Rainbow Dark Dragon?" To this, I would respond, "No, you fool. Rainbow Dark Dragon sucks, and so do decks built around him." I would then proceed to explain that, as they are both Machine-Type, they provide food to increase the attacking power and capabilities of a certain monster that can be summoned via Overload Fusion. Reasoning and Monster Gate mill large amounts of the deck quickly, making it easy to dump Overload Fusion and then retrieve it with Dark Magician of Chaos or Magical Stone Excavation. But in order to actually go through the deck quickly, the non-Nomi monster count must be low; however, few monsters would normally mean that a certain Fusion Monster wouldn't have high ATK. Solution? Nomi Machines. Now, what makes Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa more useful than this card? DARK and Level 8 means Allure and Trade-In food, respectively, which solves the problem of dead hands. This card is LIGHT and Level 10, making it incompatible with both draw engines and therefore not worth running; if I wanted a Nomi Machine that couldn't be used with Trade-In OR Allure, I would be bad at this game, but more importantly, I would use Gradius Option, or Cyber Barrier Dragon, or Cyber Laser Dragon, or Machiners Force. There, you just made me spoon-feed you the answer. I hope you're happy. Also, if Konami makes cards that appear sucky to those who aren't good enough at this game to use them properly, there's no reason to make cards that actually are sucky based of said "sucky" cards. If your card sucked, it's your fault, not the fault of the card off of which you were basing it, since you chose to base if off that card without making it better, and if the card you made actually turned out to be worse, you completely fail. Also, since anybody who doesn't suck at this game knows that ATK is unimportant, especially on such a small scale, calling one card weaker than another is understood by half-decent players to be comparing their usefulness rather than their raw ATK. Therefore, this blue-eyed metallic dragon-shaped thing is weaker than Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon for all intents and purposes of the word "weaker" that awesome people use. Also, a metal god card already exists. His name is Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, but he prefers the name REDRUM, because it's MURDER backwards, which is how hardcore Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is. Also, this card in general is pointless. The art is terrible. The OCG is terrible, even though all that is required to fix the OCG is to copy and paste the text of an existing card, something that a trained monkey could do but that seems to be too difficult for the topic creator. The idea has no originality whatsoever. The card is so ridiculously underpowered that it is utterly useless and completely unplayable. In short, this card completely sucks and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, so stop trying to pretend it does. Dude! I am NOT reading all of that. I did see you talking about running it and not summoning it. I already got it. Point's been proven. You can drop it now. But before I go, I just want to make one point. IT'S A CARD GAME! For something that was meant to be fun, you guys turn it into a business. Why don't you try to make money off of it? If you can't, then why don't you use your time wisely for something that matters...something that will actually get you somewhere in life. It's people like you who suck the fun out of everything. Don't worry about it. And, if you want, I'll admit I'm wrong and you're right. So please just drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 There's too much fail in this topic for me to directly reply to all of it without taking all night' date=' so I'm just going to say stuff that counters your attempts to make points, so I'm hoping you're able to match your arguments to my counterarguments. It's like that one Fisher Price game where you put the square blocks in the square holes and stuff, except it involves Crab Helmet being right about card games instead of five-year-olds being right about random little geometric shapes. Speaking of toys for five-year-olds, it's time for today's first grade lesson to begin, and the first class today is READING. Now, today's first class is reading. I say that I [b']run[/b] Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but I also say that nobody but a terrible duelist would actually summon them. The logical conclusion? I use Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa, but not for the purposes of summoning them, since any idiot can see that summoning them is retarded. (You might argue that the real logical conclusion is that Crab Helmet is retarded, but if you tried to do that everyone would laugh at you, because you'd be wrong, and in fact they already have started laughing at you as a result of your wrongness.) Ask yourself: What would make Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa worth running? Let's look at their distinguishing characteristics. Both are Level 8. Both are DARK. Both are Machine-Type. Both are Nomi. If you don't know what "Nomi" means, look it up on the wiki. Now. ask yourself: Why would people use Level 8 DARK Nomi monsters that can't be summoned? Look at the level. Level 8. Trade-In fodder. Look at the Attribute. DARK. Allure of Darkness fodder. Observe that it's Nomi. Recall that Reasoning and Monster Gate are not interrupted by Nomi monsters, and therefore can easily mill them to the graveyard. Obviously, these cards are designed to be sent to the graveyard. Now, you may well ask, "Crab Helmet, you dashingly handsome genius, why would you use those cards if you only use them in order to send them to the graveyard? Is it for Rainbow Dark Dragon?" To this, I would respond, "No, you fool. Rainbow Dark Dragon sucks, and so do decks built around him." I would then proceed to explain that, as they are both Machine-Type, they provide food to increase the attacking power and capabilities of a certain monster that can be summoned via Overload Fusion. Reasoning and Monster Gate mill large amounts of the deck quickly, making it easy to dump Overload Fusion and then retrieve it with Dark Magician of Chaos or Magical Stone Excavation. But in order to actually go through the deck quickly, the non-Nomi monster count must be low; however, few monsters would normally mean that a certain Fusion Monster wouldn't have high ATK. Solution? Nomi Machines. Now, what makes Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa more useful than this card? DARK and Level 8 means Allure and Trade-In food, respectively, which solves the problem of dead hands. This card is LIGHT and Level 10, making it incompatible with both draw engines and therefore not worth running; if I wanted a Nomi Machine that couldn't be used with Trade-In OR Allure, I would be bad at this game, but more importantly, I would use Gradius Option, or Cyber Barrier Dragon, or Cyber Laser Dragon, or Machiners Force. There, you just made me spoon-feed you the answer. I hope you're happy. Also, if Konami makes cards that appear sucky to those who aren't good enough at this game to use them properly, there's no reason to make cards that actually are sucky based of said "sucky" cards. If your card sucked, it's your fault, not the fault of the card off of which you were basing it, since you chose to base if off that card without making it better, and if the card you made actually turned out to be worse, you completely fail. Also, since anybody who doesn't suck at this game knows that ATK is unimportant, especially on such a small scale, calling one card weaker than another is understood by half-decent players to be comparing their usefulness rather than their raw ATK. Therefore, this blue-eyed metallic dragon-shaped thing is weaker than Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon for all intents and purposes of the word "weaker" that awesome people use. Also, a metal god card already exists. His name is Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, but he prefers the name REDRUM, because it's MURDER backwards, which is how hardcore Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is. Also, this card in general is pointless. The art is terrible. The OCG is terrible, even though all that is required to fix the OCG is to copy and paste the text of an existing card, something that a trained monkey could do but that seems to be too difficult for the topic creator. The idea has no originality whatsoever. The card is so ridiculously underpowered that it is utterly useless and completely unplayable. In short, this card completely sucks and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, so stop trying to pretend it does. Dude! I am NOT reading all of that. I did see you talking about running it and not summoning it. I already got it. Point's been proven. You can drop it now. But before I go, I just want to make one point. IT'S A CARD GAME! For something that was meant to be fun, you guys turn it into a business. Why don't you try to make money off of it? If you can't, then why don't you use your time wisely for something that matters...something that will actually get you somewhere in life. It's people like you who suck the fun out of everything. Don't worry about it. And, if you want, I'll admit I'm wrong and you're right. So please just drop it. I love it when people try to justify being bad at something by saying that it's not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogeta™ Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 You guys are still debeting over one little card?:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 it's okay,but I would perfer to have it to have a better effect. (6/10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 I love it when people try to justify being bad at something by saying that it's not important. I love it when people try to act all big and tough because they're good at a card game. Ooh' date=' you're scaring me now! I admitted I was wrong, just to make you happy, and that's still not enough. You guys are still debeting over one little card? Doesn't matter who was right with this. Just because you know a thing or two about a game doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk to newbies. I was only defending you because I know that newbies have a rough time on here. EDIT: BTW, I went back over and read what I said and it sounded like I was talking about you. :P lol I wasn't talking about you when I said "Just because you know a thing or two about a game doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk to newbies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalolalo Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Well actually I don't like the art, but I know it is very hard to find the perfect art for your cards. And then, despite you have a great OCG, you don't have the proper grammar. Summond <--- That's your mistake, u.u And I have one more question, you shuffle your deck because of it's effect? Because it doesn't say that it can be SS from your eck, so I assume the shuffle is it's effect. In that case... nah, I don't like it's effect, there are some other cards easier to use and some of them are continuous so you can use them more than once. And I agree, you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said. In conclusion... 4/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Huh. Chimeratech turbo using REBMD and Metalzoa...not a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] Yes you can. Crab Helmet wasn't talking about BEWMD not being able to be used for the summon. You can use Overload Fusion to summon Cimeratech and use BEWMD. He was talking about the cards he uses to get Overload Fusion from his deck not working with BEWMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeratuel Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Mage don't worry to some of these people here it's a passtime or somthing it's pretty funny so ehh just let them have there fun they'll tire them selves out and the topic will be over. Not to many people seem to get the concept of these kind of cards (I DO) so don't look to deeply into what some of these people say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] Yes you can. Crab Helmet wasn't talking about BEWMD not being able to be used for the summon. You can use Overload Fusion to summon Cimeratech and use BEWMD. He was talking about the cards he uses to get Overload Fusion from his deck not working with BEWMD. But there's no noteworthy support for LIGHT Level 10, whereas DARK Level 8 makes use of two of the three most popular and versatile draw engines in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] Yes you can. Crab Helmet wasn't talking about BEWMD not being able to be used for the summon. You can use Overload Fusion to summon Cimeratech and use BEWMD. He was talking about the cards he uses to get Overload Fusion from his deck not working with BEWMD. But there's no noteworthy support for LIGHT Level 10, whereas DARK Level 8 makes use of two of the three most popular and versatile draw engines in the game. Yeah...I got what you meant. I may not be good at figuring out people's strategies, but I know the game. ;) I got exactly what you said. Being LV 8 and DARK makes them more useful because of the discarding/drawing cards. But you can still use BEWMD for Overload Fusion, which is what I was saying about this post: And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] BTW, BEWMD is LV 9. I just noticed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] Yes you can. Crab Helmet wasn't talking about BEWMD not being able to be used for the summon. You can use Overload Fusion to summon Cimeratech and use BEWMD. He was talking about the cards he uses to get Overload Fusion from his deck not working with BEWMD. But there's no noteworthy support for LIGHT Level 10, whereas DARK Level 8 makes use of two of the three most popular and versatile draw engines in the game. Yeah...I got what you meant. I may not be good at figuring out people's strategies, but I know the game. ;) I got exactly what you said. Being LV 8 and DARK makes them more useful because of the discarding/drawing cards. But you can still use BEWMD for Overload Fusion, which is what I was saying about this post: And I agree' date=' you can't use this card like a fusion material, etc... just like Crab Helmet said.[/quote'] BTW, BEWMD is LV 9. I just noticed that. True, but why bother when better alternatives exist? Oh, it's Level 9? Well, then, it can't even be Metamorphosis'd into Cyber End Dragon or Dragoon D-END. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 True' date=' but why bother when better alternatives exist?[/quote'] No, I'm not saying to use BEWMD. I was just telling lalolalo that you could use BEWMD with Overload and Chimeratech, since he (or she) said that it can't be used as a fusion material. But it doesn't work with the other cards used to draw out Overload and discard fusion materials. Oh' date=' it's Level 9? Well, then, it can't even be Metamorphosis'd into Cyber End Dragon or Dragoon D-END.[/quote'] lol Nope. Guess that makes it worse...O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber_Master Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Very origional, good grammer 9.6/10 Missed .4 because I think it should be blue eyes white metal dragon but still great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypooop Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 4/10 nice name but bad pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahumut Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 wow one card brings up this much debate. again i like the card i think it is cool. i would rather have it than the blue eyes shining dragon. there nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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