Monarch Control

[armageddon08]

Hi. I need some help for my monarch deck. I like all suggestions, except for "Macro Monarch" and "Full Circle Monarch". This deck is supposed to be a competitive Advanced Format Monarch. Please, no Gadgets or other deck suggestions, I just want a good Monarch deck.

 

Monsters:21

 

1xJinzo

3xCaius the Shadow Monarch

2xZaborg the Thunder Monarch

2xMobius the Frost Monarch

1xGranmarg the Rock Monarch

1xRaiza the Storm Monarch

2xCyber Dragon

1xSangan

2xSpell Striker

1xMarshmallon

1xArcana Force 0- The Fool

1xSpirit Reaper

1xNeo Spacian Grand Mole

1xMorphing Jar

1xTreeborn Frog

 

Spells:14

 

1xGiant Trunade

1xHeavy Storm

1xMystical Space Typhoon

2xSoul Exchange

1xLightning Vortex

1xSmashing Ground

1xMonster Reborn

1xPremature Burial

1xSwords of Revealing Light

1xPot of Avarice

1xFoolish Burial

1xBrain Control

1xEnemy Controller

 

Traps:6

 

2xBottomless Trap Hole

1xMirror Force

1xTorrential Tribute

1xTrap Dustshoot

1xLimit Reverse

 

Side Deck:15(Duh)

 

2xThestalos the Firestorm Monarch

2xD.D. Crow

1xArcana Force 0- The Fool

1xShield Crush

2xTwister

2xPulling the Rug

2xWidespread Ruin

3xRoyal Opression

[Wyhe]

why do you the same card in both main & side decks simutantously?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

In case he wants extras?

[The Dark One]

Lol at using Granmarg. Also lol at not maining at least 2 Thestalos.

[armageddon08]

I didn't main 2 Thestalos because I don't think they do that good in the current format. As for the Granmarg, it's just worth trying out, lol.

[The Dark One]

No, Granmarg isn't worth trying out.

 

As for the Thestalos, they are probably the most important in this format. They can dump your opponent DAD or Judgment Dragon if you're lucky, or cards like Heavy Storm, Monster Reborn, and Lightning Vortex that never hit the field.

[armageddon08]

When I use Stalos, they just throw away some useless card into the grave. And my opponent always seems to find a way to fill their hand, like with a Disc Commander, or an Allure.

[Guest Star]

Let's say that you Summon Thestalos on the first turn.

 

What if you discard an opponent's Dark Armed Dragon or Judgment Dragon that could have won them the game on their first turn.

 

In my opinion, you should main 3 Thestalos or main no Thestalos.

[armageddon08]

Lets say I main 3 Stalos. In your oppinion, what should I remove if I did?

[Wyhe]

Let's say that you Summon Thestalos on the first turn.

 

What if you discard an opponent's Dark Armed Dragon or Judgment Dragon that could have won them the game on their first turn.

 

In my opinion' date=' you should main 3 Thestalos or main no Thestalos.

[/quote']

It's very situational & luck-based.

Besides,what are the chances that could ever happen? (there are some cards that thrive on being in the grave)

[armageddon08]

I agree with Lord wyhe here. There aren't that many good ways to get a monarch out on the first turn. Also, I heard that some decks run Instant Fusion, and sac the fusion for a monarch. Could that be very competitive in the current format, or is it just a waste of time?

[littlem101]

I like it 8/10 It would be no match for my deck though i rock. nut i like it. if i had it i might use it probably not but cool though.

[Wyhe]

Let's say that you Summon Thestalos on the first turn.

 

What if you discard an opponent's Dark Armed Dragon or Judgment Dragon that could have won them the game on their first turn.

 

In my opinion' date=' you should main 3 Thestalos or main no Thestalos.

[/quote']

It's very situational & luck-based.

Besides,what are the chances that could ever happen? (there are some cards that thrive on being in the grave)

Let me show how with this duel simulation.

Duelist A: Thestalos Deck (LP:2400)

Duelist B: Dark World Deck (LP:2800)

 

Duelist A's turn

-A tribute summons Thestalos

-A uses Thestalos' effect

-B discards Reign-Beax

-B's LP:2100

-Reign-Beax is special summoned & all monsters are destroyed

 

Duelist B's turn

-B attacks A directly with Reign-Beax

-A's LP:0

 

and this is how Thestalos suck

[armageddon08]

Hey, Littlem101. Why are you so confident about beating this deck? I want to see one of your decks. Post it here and prove you're really as good as you say you are.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

- Mobius 2

- Granmarg

 

+ 3 Thestalos

 

People who say Thestalos sucks need to learn2play

 

Edit: The rest of your deck is bad too.

[JesusofChaos™]

- Mobius 2

- Granmarg

 

+ 3 Thestalos

 

People who say Thestalos sucks need to learn2play

 

Edit: The rest of your deck is bad too.

Q4E

 

also drop the avarice and 2 other cards for 3 solemn judgments

[Benraino]

Let's say that you Summon Thestalos on the first turn.

 

What if you discard an opponent's Dark Armed Dragon or Judgment Dragon that could have won them the game on their first turn.

 

In my opinion' date=' you should main 3 Thestalos or main no Thestalos.

[/quote']

It's very situational & luck-based.

Besides,what are the chances that could ever happen? (there are some cards that thrive on being in the grave)

Let me show how with this duel simulation.

Duelist A: Thestalos Deck (LP:2400)

Duelist B: Dark World Deck (LP:2800)

 

Duelist A's turn

-A tribute summons Thestalos

-A uses Thestalos' effect

-B discards Reign-Beax

-B's LP:2100

-Reign-Beax is special summoned & all monsters are destroyed

 

Duelist B's turn

-B attacks A directly with Reign-Beax

-A's LP:0

 

and this is how Thestalos suck

 

If your opponent main decks Reign-Beax and this happens, your a bad player.

[uzumakinaruto93]

Let's say that you Summon Thestalos on the first turn.

 

What if you discard an opponent's Dark Armed Dragon or Judgment Dragon that could have won them the game on their first turn.

 

In my opinion' date=' you should main 3 Thestalos or main no Thestalos.

[/quote']

It's very situational & luck-based.

Besides,what are the chances that could ever happen? (there are some cards that thrive on being in the grave)

Let me show how with this duel simulation.

Duelist A: Thestalos Deck (LP:2400)

Duelist B: Dark World Deck (LP:2800)

 

Duelist A's turn

-A tribute summons Thestalos

-A uses Thestalos' effect

-B discards Reign-Beax

-B's LP:2100

-Reign-Beax is special summoned & all monsters are destroyed

 

Duelist B's turn

-B attacks A directly with Reign-Beax

-A's LP:0

 

and this is how Thestalos suck

 

if you deck Reign-Beax, then your doing it wrong

[tonisanoob]

YOU BASE -1ING YOUR OPPONENTS HAND BAD ON A FRACTION OF A CHANCE THAT YOURR OPPONENT DECKS 1 PERTICULAR CARD OUT OF LIEK 2000

 

your getting negged for that as thats the worst logic EVER

 

D : <

[The Dark One]

Lol at using Reign Beau. (Even Dark World isn't a threat you should be worrying about now.)

 

Also, you'r opponent doesn't exactly get to choose which card he/she dumps. Even if your opponent does have a Disc Commander he doesn't mind getting dumped, that's a 1 out of 5 chance of hitting it on opening turn.

 

Also, if Thestalos follows up on a Trap Dustshoot, and you were smart enough to keep track of how your opponent shuffled his hand, luck is no longer a factor.

[Benraino]

If your playing against a good Dark World Deck, your thestalos won't hit the field.

[The Dark One]

Why do you think that Monarchs have managed to stay meta until DAD while Dark World hasn't? Monarchs are better.

[armageddon08]

So, what you people are saying is this: Stalos isn't worth playing, but I should remove Avarice and 2 other Spells/Traps for 3 Solemns?

[The Dark One]

No, what we're saying (or at least what the people who know what they're talking about are saying) is that you need the following.

 

0 PoA

2-3 Thestalos

3 Solemn Judgment/Dark Bribe

[armageddon08]

About how much is a playset of Bribes, and wouldn't bribes help them draw cards and finish me off more quickly(I know what bribe does).