Dark Felgrand

[Kizzi]

An entry for a contest. Comments?

[ChronosCrowler]

Nice a evil version of felgrand! ^_^nice effect to!!!^_^

8/10

[Wyhe]

nice effect,though non-creative pic (7.8/10)

[Phantasy Dreamz]

not very impressive to me....... the pix is just felgrand in different colors.. i mean same pix....... the effect is plain and simple... ill give it 4/10

[Lazer Yoshi]

What anime? You think someone put no effort into a card because the art is bad, or the ocg, or a simple effect? I thought the card was great. 9/10.

[dark_bakura]

not very impressive to me....... the pix is just felgrand in different colors.. i mean same pix....... the effect is plain and simple... ill give it 4/10

 

I have to agree with anime911, there's nothing special to this card.

 

I would have made the effect counter the effect of the original Felgrand...

 

4/10 from me as well.

[N00B Hunter]

Nice card effect. Though, yes, the picture is bad and the OCG is a little off. However, it's balanced and would make a nice addition to the the Phantom Darkness set

[Wyhe]

Since it's for a contest,I can roughly guess where you wound up:you would be in the top 3,but not the 1st

[MarxMayhem]

I won't go full detail on this one.

 

Your image is unoriginal - simply a recolor. Yet everything here seems to be in order. Truly a dark alternate of the immortal Dragon.

 

I give it 7/10.

[Phantasy Dreamz]

What anime? You think someone put no effort into a card because the art is bad' date=' or the ocg, or a simple effect? I thought the card was great. 9/10.

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how can you like this card so much....... the image is not original.... and when its summoned to the field, it automatically have 3400 atk due to the two tributed dark monsters......... combine it foolish burial and its totally broken.......... common sense dude... common sense...

[Wyhe]

I suppose reducing the attack boost to 100 per DARK monster would even it out.

[wilson91]

Good effort on the card, but the art isnt so good. 8/10

[Careless Whisper]

Actually, this version of Dark Felgrand is better than mine.

 

Good job Kizzi. 9/10

[Wyhe]

Actually' date=' this version of Dark Felgrand is better than mine.

 

Good job Kizzi. 9/10

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You made 1 too,lemme see!

[Phantasy Dreamz]

I suppose reducing the attack boost to 100 per DARK monster would even it out.

 

even 100 per dark will still be broken due to the fact that it is 'Special Summon'.... and foolish burial can send this card to the graveyard....... and it can be special summon as many times as youll able to tribute 2 dark monster................ suppose kizzi add the effect that it can only be special summon from the graveyard if it was sent there from the hand(limitation like felgrand).... and its effect can only be use ONCE during the duel........... then ill say its balance..................nuff say...

[Lazer Yoshi]

Actually, i agree with anime here. I kinda like that idea. And i have to agree, Kizzy has better ideas.

[Kizzi]

This got more replies than I expected.

Anyone that said it was awesome, thanks.

For those complaining about the image, at least I actually made it rather than type some letters into a search bar.

To that guy that said it should counter the original Felgrand, you don't understand dark counterparts.

To the person complaining about lolatk, it's just ATK.

This isn't invincible unless you can get an unlimited supply of DARK monsters, and if you have that, you're probably going to win anyway.

I was originally going to make it a Normal Summon, but I thought that might be too much for a beatstick.

Also, don't compare this to Felgrand. The original is underpowered.

I'm calling Crab to check, but I've stated my reasoning.

Also, Meti, I've seen your Dark Felgrand, but I can't remember the effect. Repost?

[ShadowKyogre]

Nice effect to (it's like it, but better), and let's make it look more evil!

[Titus]

I agree with anime911. Once you get it in your Graveyard, you can just keep bringing him back. All you need is 2 DARK monsters on the field. I'm not gonna complain about the pic, because really, the pics don't even matter with the cards. They just make them look nicer. It's the effect that counts.

 

To the person complaining about lolatk' date=' it's just ATK.[/quote']

 

In most decks, the ATK is all that matters with this card. In a few decks (which I'm guessing yours is one of them), the ATK doesn't mean much at all, but in that case, you don't even need the extra 300x effect.

 

My opinion: Take out the 300x ATK effect. It will still work good in your deck because it's a DARK monster, and you can still bring it back whenever it's destroyed when you have 2 DARK monsters on the field.

 

I still think it's a pretty cool card. But I bet I'll regret posting here.

[Kizzi]

I agree with anime911. Once you get it in your Graveyard' date=' you can just keep bringing him back. All you need is 2 DARK monsters on the field. I'm not gonna complain about the pic, because really, the pics don't even matter with the cards. They just make them look nicer. It's the effect that counts.

 

To the person complaining about lolatk, it's just ATK.

 

In most decks, the ATK is all that matters with this card. In a few decks (which I'm guessing yours is one of them), the ATK doesn't mean much at all, but in that case, you don't even need the extra 300x effect.

 

My opinion: Take out the 300x ATK effect. It will still work good in your deck because it's a DARK monster, and you can still bring it back whenever it's destroyed when you have 2 DARK monsters on the field.

 

I still think it's a pretty cool card. But I bet I'll regret posting here.

With 2800 ATK, 2 tributes wouldn't be worth it. Essentially, it'd be a vanilla without vanilla support. Also, I think you've got it the wrong way round. In most decks ATK doesn't matter (okay, it does slightly, but not too much). In a few, ATK is important (most notably vanilla decks). Also, you shouldn't have it destroyed while you control 2 other DARKs.

[CrabHelmet]

I could evaluate the card directly, but I would much rather laugh at other people, so I'll do that first.

 

not very impressive to me....... the pix is just felgrand in different colors.. i mean same pix....... the effect is plain and simple... ill give it 4/10

 

All the DARK counterpart cards look exactly like the original monster' date=' but darker. Felgrand Dragon has never appeared in the anime or manga, so the only available picture is the one on its card - no alternative exists.

 

I would have made the effect counter the effect of the original Felgrand...

 

Take a good, long look at the PTDN Dark Counterpart Monsters. Tell me, how many of them counter the effects of the original? Here's a hint: Percy could count them on the fingers of his left hand. And Percy is my pet parrot.

 

All of the Dark Counterpart Monsters have effects reminiscent of the original monster but darker, usually involving DARK monsters in the graveyard, and in most cases (Dark Horus is a notable exception) more powerful. That's pretty much what this card is.

 

Actually, I don't have a pet parrot named Percy. I just wanted to say that.

 

 

Now, I need to actually evaluate the card. Hmmm...Having two DARK monsters out is easy, especially with cards like Junk Synchron, Summon Priest, Giant Germ, and so on, and this card is easy to get in the graveyard, especially with the support of Reasoning (which also helps swarming), Monster Gate, Armageddon Knight, and so on, and it can be used as a discard cost (and works with Trade-In) to your advantage. The ATK is high enough to make it effectively monster removal, since it kills anything that is used. Until you have 11 DARKs in the grave, this has more ATK than Rainbow Dark Dragon, and until you have 16 DARKs in the grave, this has more ATK than Prometheus. It can't be used with Bushi, but could work with D.D. Scout Plane (along with something like Strike Ninja).

 

Based on the insane amount of DARK support and the precedent of Gigantech Fighter, I'm going to recommend reducing the ATK boost. Then it will be completely balanced.

[Kizzi]

I could evaluate the card directly' date=' but I would much rather laugh at other people, so I'll do that first.

 

not very impressive to me....... the pix is just felgrand in different colors.. i mean same pix....... the effect is plain and simple... ill give it 4/10

 

All the DARK counterpart cards look exactly like the original monster, but darker. Felgrand Dragon has never appeared in the anime or manga, so the only available picture is the one on its card - no alternative exists.

 

I would have made the effect counter the effect of the original Felgrand...

 

Take a good' date=' long look at the PTDN Dark Counterpart Monsters. Tell me, how many of them counter the effects of the original? Here's a hint: Percy could count them on the fingers of his left hand. And Percy is my pet parrot.

 

All of the Dark Counterpart Monsters have effects reminiscent of the original monster but darker, usually involving DARK monsters in the graveyard, and in most cases (Dark Horus is a notable exception) more powerful. That's pretty much what this card is.

 

Actually, I don't have a pet parrot named Percy. I just wanted to say that.

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lolz

 

Now' date=' I need to actually evaluate the card. Hmmm...Having two DARK monsters out is easy, especially with cards like Junk Synchron, Summon Priest, Giant Germ, and so on, and this card is easy to get in the graveyard, especially with the support of Reasoning (which also helps swarming), Monster Gate, Armageddon Knight, and so on, and it can be used as a discard cost (and works with Trade-In) to your advantage. The ATK is high enough to make it effectively monster removal, since it kills anything that is used. Until you have 11 DARKs in the grave, this has more ATK than Rainbow Dark Dragon, and until you have 16 DARKs in the grave, this has more ATK than Prometheus. It can't be used with Bushi, but could work with D.D. Scout Plane (along with something like Strike Ninja).

 

Based on the insane amount of DARK support and the precedent of Gigantech Fighter, I'm going to recommend reducing the ATK boost. Then it will be completely balanced.

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I never thought of using Strike Ninja. It was originally going to remove the monsters from play, but I thought of Scout Plane and changed it. Anyway, is 100 enough, or will 200 be fine for the ATK boost?

[Titus]

I didn't say ATK matters in most decks. I said "In most decks, the ATK is all that matters with this card," meaning that this card's effect does nothing for most decks, so the ATK of this card would be all that mattered. But according to you, ATK doesn't mean much in duels anyway. That's why people can use REBMD, right? Not because of its ATK or effect, but because of its status. And even if you don't remove that part of the effect (the ATK increase part), you should still at least reduce it to like 100 (maybe 200). But when you have 10 DARK monsters in your Graveyard and him on the field, those 2 tributes for an almost 6000 ATK monster was well worth it.

 

EDIT: Dang, I took too long to respond.

 

Felgrand Dragon has never appeared in the anime or manga' date=' so the only available picture is the one on its card - no alternative exists.[/quote']

 

I hate when you try to make a good card and all people want to comment on is the picture. That's why I never do unless it's a pic like this:

 

 

But yeah, kizzi, I think it's a good pic. And other than how much easy ATK it could get, it's a great card. ;)

[Slash]

Good pic

Sweet effect

COOL overall card ^_^

8.5/10

[Guest Star]

You should have modified the render so it looked evil.

 

3400 ATK does not make a card broken. If it does, please ban Destiny Hero - Dogma.