The Dark One Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 hahaha' date=' not overpowered... it has to waste hand to defend it from effects that destroys, but still vulnerable to effects that control or flips, still vulnerable to ATK modifiers (shrink already?) and the fact is not treated as DARK monster when it's on the field makes it not abusable with CCV, and you can't attack directl with it for a finishing move... and if attacks, it's changed to defense, need more proofs that it's not broken?? it's just a one-hit monster...[/quote'] Ok, listen carefully to the following statement: 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 hahaha' date=' not overpowered... it has to waste hand to defend it from effects that destroys, but still vulnerable to effects that control or flips, still vulnerable to ATK modifiers (shrink already?) and the fact is not treated as DARK monster when it's on the field makes it not abusable with CCV, and you can't attack directl with it for a finishing move... and if attacks, it's changed to defense, need more proofs that it's not broken?? it's just a one-hit monster...[/quote'] Ok, listen carefully to the following statement: 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. plus like me you would fill the deck with lava n grinder golem. so your opponent would not be able to properly defend ( it pisses people off so much when i do that ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 hahaha' date=' not overpowered... it has to waste hand to defend it from effects that destroys, but still vulnerable to effects that control or flips, still vulnerable to ATK modifiers (shrink already?) and the fact is not treated as DARK monster when it's on the field makes it not abusable with CCV, and you can't attack directl with it for a finishing move... and if attacks, it's changed to defense, need more proofs that it's not broken?? it's just a one-hit monster...[/quote'] Ok, listen carefully to the following statement: 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. plus like me you would fill the deck with lava n grinder golem. so your opponent would not be able to properly defend ( it pisses people off so much when i do that ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff! Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 ub3r br0k3n.and whut does IRL stand for?it's been bugging me and i have to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff! Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 ub3r br0k3n.and whut does IRL stand for?it's been bugging me and i have to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 IRL= In real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 IRL= In real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 hahaha' date=' not overpowered... it has to waste hand to defend it from effects that destroys, but still vulnerable to effects that control or flips, still vulnerable to ATK modifiers (shrink already?) and the fact is not treated as DARK monster when it's on the field makes it not abusable with CCV, and you can't attack directl with it for a finishing move... and if attacks, it's changed to defense, need more proofs that it's not broken?? it's just a one-hit monster...[/quote'] Ok, listen carefully to the following statement: 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. CVD only negates the activation of a card/effect that would destroy it, but it doesn't destroy the card that activated the effect. This means that DAD will at least discard 3 of the opponent's cards. If he doesn't have 3 cards, he will be destroyed. If he does have enough cards, your opponent will be left with such a small hand that he will probably not win in the next few turns. And a DAD deck only needs a few turns to refill the grave for DAD to destroy it anyways. This card is still not overpowered. EDIT:Oh, and JD only needs life points to kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 hahaha' date=' not overpowered... it has to waste hand to defend it from effects that destroys, but still vulnerable to effects that control or flips, still vulnerable to ATK modifiers (shrink already?) and the fact is not treated as DARK monster when it's on the field makes it not abusable with CCV, and you can't attack directl with it for a finishing move... and if attacks, it's changed to defense, need more proofs that it's not broken?? it's just a one-hit monster...[/quote'] Ok, listen carefully to the following statement: 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. CVD only negates the activation of a card/effect that would destroy it, but it doesn't destroy the card that activated the effect. This means that DAD will at least discard 3 of the opponent's cards. If he doesn't have 3 cards, he will be destroyed. If he does have enough cards, your opponent will be left with such a small hand that he will probably not win in the next few turns. And a DAD deck only needs a few turns to refill the grave for DAD to destroy it anyways. This card is still not overpowered. EDIT:Oh, and JD only needs life points to kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Ok' date=' listen carefully to the following statement:[/quote'] ok, i'm "listening"... 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. so? snipe hunter is also sercheable by tomato and it's more banworthy than this one... also how many times a searcher is destroyed by battle today?? now consider the consequences of my question... Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. destiny hero - dreadmaster is sercheable by tomato and sangan and compatible with allure and trade-in... ban dreadmaster... Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? i said it, a one-hit monster... It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. a face up heraklinos implies a face down solemn... if not you need to learn2play... also LOL atk and LOL life points... It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. could be, but you forget the cards that topdeck/return this baby, so to your list add PWWB, raiza, compulsory, grand mole... and in a minor scale legendary jiu-jitsu master, penguin soldier, otohime... also, the fact that you have to DISCARD implies that you can't use that effect when you have no hand... that's a clue this is not broken... if you still think that a beatstick with some kind of protection is banworthy, read my pst again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Ok' date=' listen carefully to the following statement:[/quote'] ok, i'm "listening"... 1. This card can be searched out by Mystic Tomato. Now consider the consequences of that statement. so? snipe hunter is also sercheable by tomato and it's more banworthy than this one... also how many times a searcher is destroyed by battle today?? now consider the consequences of my question... Also, pay attention to this: 2. This card, in addition to being searchable by either Mystic Tomato or Sangan, is also compatible with both Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. destiny hero - dreadmaster is sercheable by tomato and sangan and compatible with allure and trade-in... ban dreadmaster... Think about this for a moment. Yeah, assuming you're the one doing the attacking (you probably will be), this will most likely be a one-time use card. So is Exiled Force. So are a lot of monsters. It takes virtually no effort to use this monster. Why does it need to be reusable? i said it, a one-hit monster... It can blow away Heraklinos with an additional 3000 dmg stacked on top. a face up heraklinos implies a face down solemn... if not you need to learn2play... also LOL atk and LOL life points... It can just sit there. There are only a few cards that your opponent can use to get it off the field. Brain Control + a tribute monster. Book of Moon. Enemy Controller. None of the conventional destruction tools will work here. In most situations, if a card that requires little effort has to be sided against (different forms of removal), that's a clue that it's broken. could be, but you forget the cards that topdeck/return this baby, so to your list add PWWB, raiza, compulsory, grand mole... and in a minor scale legendary jiu-jitsu master, penguin soldier, otohime... also, the fact that you have to DISCARD implies that you can't use that effect when you have no hand... that's a clue this is not broken... if you still think that a beatstick with some kind of protection is banworthy, read my pst again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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