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Shining Luster Dragon

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cameronsdog Newbie

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do you mind if i rant ohwell

 

I think that card is very Op its a good thing it cant attack twice on the same turn and dont the cards you fuse need to be spaceific i didnt know that there were fusions like that did i mention thats its op oh yes i did nevermind Plus you could just spam the discard from hand efect you shouldd make it a when this card is summoned chose one of the following effect kind of cards then it wouldnt be OP at all and thats it for my rant...forgot to rate I think this card is a 7.9/10

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OK, first of all, people, Necro Force Dread Knight is in his signature. He's asking for a review of Shining Luster Dragon only.

 

Second, I don't get how you people rate it as so overpowered. The only problem I see is the fact that it's 300x the level destroyed. If it were 200, it would be better.

 

Not destroyed in battle? Reaper and Marshmallon aren't either, they still get eaten by Smashing Ground, Lightning Vortex, and this thing's no different.

 

Plus, it's an attacking card, so it dies to Bottomless Trap Hole, Sakuretsu Armor, and Mirror Force, too.

 

Discard 1 hand to destroy a face-up Spell Card. OK, destroy Swords of Revealing Light, and a burn-wrecker in that it kills Level Limit-Area B, Wave-Motion Cannon and Nightmare's Steelcage. Oh, but wait, it can't attack that turn. If you have more monsters that can, great, but otherwise, it's just a 2900 beatstick that provides extra burn if you eat anything with it. I mean, not many 3000's are played these days, and there are sure as hell even fewer Continuous Spells out there being played.

 

I love the card. I always found Luster Dragon underused.

8.4/10

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Yeah, I know, they can get so confusing, those LOD/MFC Luster Dragons...

#1, the one that is correctly printed as "Luster Dragon", is the one that is the correct Fusion-Material Monster. It is the one from Magician's Force, with 1900 ATK and is Level 4.

#2 is printed as "Luster Dragon #2", and therefore cannot be the correct Fusion-Material Monster.

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Red' date=' black, and yellow hair? Please, find the logic in that, I beg you... [/quote']

 

several explanations

 

Aleion's Theory of Yu-Gi-Oh Hair Styles:

 

A) Fancy hat(s)

 

B) 10 gallons of hair gel a day keeps hair physics away :D

 

C) The series 3rd person perspective for the viewer is designed to simulate smoking dope

 

D) It's a hologram like every other thing thats interesting in the series, except bakura and kaiba.

 

E) Ancient egyptian magic that was also infused in yugi due to him being pharoah's reincarnation

 

F) some yet to be revealed, crappy, unbeliveable plot device

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OK' date=' first of all, people, Necro Force Dread Knight is in his signature. He's asking for a review of Shining Luster Dragon only.

 

Second, I don't get how you people rate it as so overpowered. The only problem I see is the fact that it's 300x the level destroyed. If it were 200, it would be better.

 

Not destroyed in battle? Reaper and Marshmallon aren't either, they still get eaten by Smashing Ground, Lightning Vortex, and this thing's no different.

 

Plus, it's an attacking card, so it dies to Bottomless Trap Hole, Sakuretsu Armor, and Mirror Force, too.

 

Discard 1 hand to destroy a face-up Spell Card. OK, destroy Swords of Revealing Light, and a burn-wrecker in that it kills Level Limit-Area B, Wave-Motion Cannon and Nightmare's Steelcage. Oh, but wait, it can't attack that turn. If you have more monsters that can, great, but otherwise, it's just a 2900 beatstick that provides extra burn if you eat anything with it. I mean, not many 3000's are played these days, and there are sure as hell even fewer Continuous Spells out there being played.

 

I love the card. I always found Luster Dragon underused.

8.4/10

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Hahaha!!! Such flawed logic... I'm not going to disprove it; just make my point.

 

You've got a card that can be summoned easy for 2 monsters of 4-stars (or even a 4-star and 1-star... but anyway), and your card has 8 stars -- most E-heroes borne from 2 non-tribute monsters are lvl 6 and below, aren't they? So, the level is too high, which probably cues the effect and stats to be overpowered. Well, why don't we look?

 

There's no fusion req... so, you can summon this guy without Fusion Summon, and Fusion Summon him with substitutes (doesn't that just scream "EASY SUMMON!!!" to you? Play him in a LIGHT deck with "The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion" for some fast play.). Along with that, when he kills something, he does burn damage!! (anything from 300 to probably 2400 at the highest) Of course, what's worst are his secondary and tertruary effects: He can't be destroyed by battle, meaning if your opponent finally gets out something bigger than him, it won't do crap. He's got double protection, strong stats, and invulnerability in battle. Granted, he can get killed by S & T, but you could have an S & T negation on hand... and he's such an easy summon that you can get a second one out shortly after the first (or second) dies. And if that's not enough, he can destroy 1 Spell card on the field for a discard.. that means any Spell Card. Not just "Swords" or "Level Limit - Area B", but "Umi" (and its counterpart), or "Wave-Motion Cannon"... and not being able to attack doesn't really hurt him. After all, most Spells you would destroy with that ability do a little more than prevent attacking for one turn.

 

He's not just a beatstick, he's a high-level, flaming beatstick that can zap green cards, can't be hurt in battle, and is easy to pull out... I'd say that's a one heckuva stick. Broken.

 

However, that picture looks nice. You need to get rid of that white space on the bottom and right corners to make it a little more authentic, but that is seriously a good picture choice.

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I base my argument on a metagame standpoint. The strongest monster most people play these days is Dark Armed Dragon, and it eats this thing alive.

 

A good 12 cards of the average player's 40-card deck include the effect of destroying a card. A good 3-5 include getting those 12 cards, so you have to consider the odds.

 

Sure, Hex works; Future Fusion & Dragon's Mirror work even faster and are more potent in the fact that they get two copies out-but with all the destruction going around, and the little amount of spells seeing play (I'll add the Gladiator Beast uses of its shield, and...Proving Ground? Not sure if that's a field spell or not, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an example, has little importance) that stay face-up, it really just sits there. There are worse fusions out there. (Five-Headed Dragon comes to mind; a deck based around it is simple to construct and much deadlier in execution.)

 

The burn is the only thing I expressed concern about, having 300 be a bit high. 200 seems more balanced, as the most you could get off of it was 2400, and the highest you SHOULD see getting off of it was 1600.

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I base my argument on a metagame standpoint. The strongest monster most people play these days is Dark Armed Dragon' date=' and it eats this thing alive.

 

A good 12 cards of the average player's 40-card deck include the effect of destroying a card. A good 3-5 include getting those 12 cards, so you have to consider the odds.

 

Sure, Hex works; Future Fusion & Dragon's Mirror work even faster and are more potent in the fact that they get two copies out-but with all the destruction going around, and the little amount of spells seeing play (I'll add the Gladiator Beast uses of its shield, and...Proving Ground? Not sure if that's a field spell or not, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is an example, has little importance) that stay face-up, it really just sits there. There are worse fusions out there. (Five-Headed Dragon comes to mind; a deck based around it is simple to construct and much deadlier in execution.)

 

The burn is the only thing I expressed concern about, having 300 be a bit high. 200 seems more balanced, as the most you could get off of it was 2400, and the highest you SHOULD see getting off of it was 1600.

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How about "Ultimate Tyranno"? I see that a bit.. and DAD will be soon banned or put into check with other cards because of its incredible power. Anyway, you shouldn't comapare this to other monsters -- just think of it as unable to be beaten, yet also be able to aggro (what's the ATK of "Marshmallon" and "Spirit Reaper" again? And they're limited?)

 

... Exactly, high ATK and easy to get out with a burn effect and field control. Don't you see a problem with that?

Face-up Spells I see in the metagame.. and the fact that there aren't many face-up Spells in the metagame isn't the problem (Well... you can count the crystal beasts too... that makes quite a few, actually), it's just the potency of those Spells that makes the difference. "Wave-Motion" can do tons of burn damage, "Swords" is a staple because of its stall power, and "A Legendary Ocean" is the focus of Water decks... being able to kill those cards is useful.. and doing it with a monster that's invulnerable in battle is even more useful...

 

The burn is minor, but does build up with the other effects. I'm worred about the battle invulnerability -- alone on this card, it's overpowered.

 

Crab Helmet has been notified. I'll get him to make sense of this.

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