Smoking

[MasterOfMagicians]

I'm sorry about your parents and I see where you are coming from.

My main concern, while I know myself or my wife won't, is what will our kids do? What can I do now, and what can I do as a parent to prevent them from smoking in the future. What can I teach them. If I worry only about myself, I'm short-changing my wife and my kids because there's things I can do, even now, to get ready for the future and to keep them from smoking and help them realize the hazards and the problems that come along with smoking.

[EliminateHRN]

I'm sorry about your parents and I see where you are coming from.

My main concern' date=' while I know myself or my wife won't, is what will our kids do? What can I do now, and what can I do as a parent to prevent them from smoking in the future. What can I teach them. If I worry only about myself, I'm short-changing my wife and my kids because there's things I can do, even now, to get ready for the future and to keep them from smoking and help them realize the hazards and the problems that come along with smoking.

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Really the only thing you can do is just tell them what it will do to your body and health. Then they can understand how bad smoking is. That what my dad did with me and that what I will do with my kids.

[speznats]

I under stand what your talk about just in crease there awarness about smoking at an early age so it wont be something be a threat when the time there old enouph to get a hold of cigarettes

 

to get to that stange the cigarette companys will be sued in to the floor bords and more laws will be pasted and even more strict laws on tobbaco will possibly even out lawing completely

ill just leave it up to the system but it your job to teach them how hurt full it is befor they get older

[Guest Tiger]

Why do they do it? How does it make them feel better?

 

They probably do it to take stress out of their lives. And my dad once quit and he started becoming more ill and miresble and stuff so it could help with some stuff.

 

Yeah. Your probably right.

[2sick4u]

Okay' date=' you just smoked a LOT. You lost 50 pounds. Good right? WRONG. You have died by then. Smoking damages EVERYTHING. You smell gross, your breath stinks, your voice wears out, you have a hard time breathing, so, yeah, Smoking is an Epic Failure.

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LolPublicSchooling.

Smoking is fine in certain moderation.

Prolonged usage has long term effects.

I can't even express how non-deadly smoking happens to be.

Self-control=Real killer.

That's the problem with smoking. Plainly, and truthfully.

Murder she wrote says so.

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I lol'ed hard at this. Smoking is certainly NOT fine in any amount. Obviously, you have no idea what's in cigarettes if you think that. Seriously, the amount of tar that goes into your body with every cigarette you smoke is huge. Clogged arteries is a serious condition. There are actually SEVERAL different radioactive materials in cigarettes. If you think that radiation is somehow good for you, than you're not even worth the time it took to read your post. You think cancer is good? You think that having to have a hole poked in your throat is good? No, not everyone who smokes dies from it, that doesn't mean that it doesn't end up affecting their lives in a strongly negative way.

 

Oh, and newsflash, Nicotine is ADDICTIVE. That's the whole point, self-control isn't really an issue, it's a physical addiction. You suffer withdrawal if you don't get what you want.

 

If I cut your arm off, and you bleed to death, it's obviously not my fault for cutting your arm off, it must be your fault for bleeding.

You pretty much didn't even understand my post.

Okay.

I was saying, that cigarettes, although made-up of more or less crappy substances, it doesn't effect anyone in a life-threatening way on a short-term basis. It takes prolonged usage of cigarettes to develop heart disease, lung cancer, or whatever. Cancers never good, and neither is any other smoking disease. But,

Self control can avoid that. You choose not to smoke the cigarette, you pretty much choose not to get cancer.

Hm.

You took it as though I was placing blame upon the smoker, rather than the cigarette. No, I wasn't, I was saying it was the smokers choice to do such a thing. The independent decision to smoke resolves at the smoker. Therefore, it's not the cigarettes fault for being deadly, it's the smokers fault for using it. Banning cigarettes is like, banning Kitchen knives. Yes, they're deadly, but only when someone makes the independent choice to make them that way.

It all circles back to our own choice, not that of the cigarettes. The cigarette, like the Kitchen Knife, Is manufactured by people for purposes, but can be used in life-threatening ways. It's not the cigarettes fault for being able to cause cancer, but the smokers for leaving themselves applicable to it.

Try reading my post next time, yeah?

Instead of being a smart-ass. "I lol'd so hard at this."

Glad to make you laugh, but seriously, shut up.

:D.

Oh, noticed something else. Technically, yes, Nicotine's addictive, but self control, independent decisions to avoid the nicotine in the first place results in no physical addiction.

Yes, if you cut my arm off, you'd be to blame, for your independent decision to use the weapon in a negative way is your bad. It's your own fault, not that of the weapon, nor the blood.

=].

Point taken?

[Tefached]

smoking=suicide???

rofl

im going to kill myself slowly by chain smoking.

 

no.

smoking is a choice and you should be allowed to do it around your kids or in your car.

 

well it all depends on what your smoking i guess

cigars/cigarettes? ok, though its poison basically.

weed. its a medicine that does nothing wrong, no one dies from a stoner

crack and others yes horrible drugs that eat away at your brain....say no to crack and i quote from one of our great celebs. crack is whack.

[The Dark One]

Your post implied that you supported the occasional smoke. It is never ok to smoke a cigarette. However, I can accept that perhaps you didn't mean to portray that feeling. Obviously yes, when it comes down to it, the cigarette didn't push itself into your mouth and force you to get addicted to it. You're right there.

 

However, smokes are NOT like knives. You see, there are ways to use knives without causing harm to yourself or to others. There is no such way with tobacco.

 

Also, smoking isn't restricted because it causes harm to the smoker, it's restricted because it causes harm to others besides the smoker. It's called second-hand smoke guys. It's dangerous. Second-hand smoke is the only reason why cigarettes should be banned.

 

And with all the marketing out there these days, it isn't that surprising that a kid might pick up cigarettes. Obviously, the fault comes to the kid, but there's plenty of blame to lay elsewhere. Are you saying that Jigsaw was blameless when he put people in booby trapped houses and got them to start killing each other and themselves? Yeah, they're the one's who committed the murders, but I'd say a good portion, if not the larger portion of fault comes down on his shoulders. As would most people. Think of the cigarette companies as Jigsaw.

 

Also, to Deity Axle, Weed is about as harmful as tobacco, perhaps slightly more-so. The problem is that it tends to lead people to others drugs. It's definitely not ok either. Just think of it this way, if you're imbibing a chemical that alters the way you think or feel, chances are you're doing something dumb. (Yes, I'm against alcohol too, though far less so. It's addictive qualities are practically nonexistent compared to those of the others.)

[Tefached]

 

 

Also' date=' to Deity Axle, Weed is about as harmful as tobacco, perhaps slightly more-so. The problem is that it tends to lead people to others drugs. It's definitely not ok either. Just think of it this way, if you're imbibing a chemical that alters the way you think or feel, chances are you're doing something dumb. (Yes, I'm against alcohol too, though far less so. It's addictive qualities are practically nonexistent compared to those of the others.)

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yes weed is still harmful but to atleast 14 people in the usa its a medicine.

those 14 people were given federal prescriptions for it before states like california just handed them out to random people.

so to a small few its not.

[Yogg-Saron]

Basically it stimulates the "feal good" part of you brain

and over time your brain will develop an artificial need for cigarets

and after you don't smoke them for a while you start to feal sick

you become more easly aggravated and more soon nothing will cut off the tension except a smoke

so the long you smoke the more dependent your becomes on smoking

You do realize there is such thing as Nicotine Patches, and other medicines to help you stop smoking. My dad started taking a Nicotine Pill and he hasn't smoked since. So smokers can't merely say "I can't quit" or "Its to hard to quit". That is false if they say that.

[Willieh]

Basically it stimulates the "feal good" part of you brain

and over time your brain will develop an artificial need for cigarets

and after you don't smoke them for a while you start to feal sick

you become more easly aggravated and more soon nothing will cut off the tension except a smoke

so the long you smoke the more dependent your becomes on smoking

You do realize there is such thing as Nicotine Patches' date=' and other medicines to help you stop smoking. My dad started taking a Nicotine Pill and he hasn't smoked since. So smokers can't merely say "I can't quit" or "Its to hard to quit". That is false if they say that.

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You do realize that what you said is false. Having one of these "Miracle" patches doesn't make it easy to quit. It just makes it easier. Once you are addicted to something it becomes nearly impossible to stop it. If you've never been addicted to anything, then you really have no room to say how easy or how hard it is to quit being addicted to said thing.

[Yogg-Saron]

Basically it stimulates the "feal good" part of you brain

and over time your brain will develop an artificial need for cigarets

and after you don't smoke them for a while you start to feal sick

you become more easly aggravated and more soon nothing will cut off the tension except a smoke

so the long you smoke the more dependent your becomes on smoking

You do realize there is such thing as Nicotine Patches' date=' and other medicines to help you stop smoking. My dad started taking a Nicotine Pill and he hasn't smoked since. So smokers can't merely say "I can't quit" or "Its to hard to quit". That is false if they say that.

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You do realize that what you said is false. Having one of these "Miracle" patches doesn't make it easy to quit. It just makes it easier. Once you are addicted to something it becomes nearly impossible to stop it. If you've never been addicted to anything, then you really have no room to say how easy or how hard it is to quit being addicted to said thing.

Actually, I was addicted to drugs for about a year. Then I quit because I knew that I was killing myself. Yes, it is hard. Yes, it is hard to quit. Yes, I did take nicotine pills and such, it helped A LOT in quiting.

[Willieh]

Basically it stimulates the "feal good" part of you brain

and over time your brain will develop an artificial need for cigarets

and after you don't smoke them for a while you start to feal sick

you become more easly aggravated and more soon nothing will cut off the tension except a smoke

so the long you smoke the more dependent your becomes on smoking

You do realize there is such thing as Nicotine Patches' date=' and other medicines to help you stop smoking. My dad started taking a Nicotine Pill and he hasn't smoked since. So smokers can't merely say "I can't quit" or "Its to hard to quit". That is false if they say that.

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You do realize that what you said is false. Having one of these "Miracle" patches doesn't make it easy to quit. It just makes it easier. Once you are addicted to something it becomes nearly impossible to stop it. If you've never been addicted to anything, then you really have no room to say how easy or how hard it is to quit being addicted to said thing.

Actually, I was addicted to drugs for about a year. Then I quit because I knew that I was killing myself. Yes, it is hard. Yes, it is hard to quit. Yes, I did take nicotine pills and such, it helped A LOT in quiting.

Seriously I really was addicted to drugs. (Not saying that you are necessarily lying... but... Ehhhh). I was addicted to harder drugs though. Along with cigarettes.

 

Trust me, taking pills and such may help, but it doesnt make quitting anything easy.