StevenBray Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Rate, Comment and Criticize. Thank You! Effect: When either you or your opponent destroys a monster by battle, you can Special Summon 1 "Black Rose" Token in Defence Position. Depending on the field you summon the Token(s) to, apply the appropriate stats and effect:- You: (Earth/Level 1/0 ATK/0 DEF) - When this Token is destroyed, you and your opponent can both draw 1 card.- Your Opponent: (Earth/Level 1/700 ATK/0 DEF) - This Token cannot be used for a Tribute Summon, Fusion Summon or Synchro Summon. When this Token is destroyed, you lose 300 Life Points. Credit: http://velvettears93.deviantart.com/art/black-rose-58392909 by velvettears93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 BLS-EotE, Ultimate Tyranno, All-Out Attacks and Battle Mania, even those Element Monsters... Heck... you just created a banworthy card. 0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Would be banned. Permits easy OTK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBray Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 BLS-EotE' date=' Ultimate Tyranno, All-Out Attacks and Battle Mania, even those Element Monsters... Heck... you just created a banworthy card. 0/10[/quote'] 1 - Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning is Forbidden, so that's useless.2 - Have you ever seen a Deck run Ultimate Tyranno, because I haven't3 - When All-Out Attacks is in play for 1 turn, don't Special Summon. That's why the word can was invented.4 - (this one also applies to the above parts 2 and 3 as well) Have you ever heard of Negate Attack and Mirror Force and other such Traps that protect you from attacks? 5 - What Element Monsters (just confused by that last bit) Would be banned. Permits easy OTK's. Can you be more specific, just so I can learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 BLS-EotE' date=' Ultimate Tyranno, All-Out Attacks and Battle Mania, even those Element Monsters... Heck... you just created a banworthy card. 0/10[/quote'] 1 - Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning is Forbidden, so that's useless.2 - Have you ever seen a Deck run Ultimate Tyranno, because I haven't3 - When All-Out Attacks is in play for 1 turn, don't Special Summon. That's why the word can was invented.4 - (this one also applies to the above parts 2 and 3 as well) Have you ever heard of Negate Attack and Mirror Force and other such Traps that protect you from attacks? 5 - What Element Monsters (just confused by that last bit) Would be banned. Permits easy OTK's. Can you be more specific' date=' just so I can learn?[/quote'] Asura Priest + Rose of the Fallen = 2-card OTK. Any monster that can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each works; I just chose Asura Priest because it's probably the easiest to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenBray Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Asura Priest + Rose of the Fallen = 2-card OTK. Any monster that can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each works; I just chose Asura Priest because it's probably the easiest to get out. Well the same logic can be applied to the Ojama Trio really, and Ojama Trio summons 3 at the same time where this can only summon 1 per destroyed monster. And really the Max. damage you can do with the 2 cards is 1500 damage since they are all in Defence Position. So you'll need a lot more to do the remaining 6500 damage. But thank you for your comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Asura Priest + Rose of the Fallen = 2-card OTK. Any monster that can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each works; I just chose Asura Priest because it's probably the easiest to get out. Well the same logic can be applied to the Ojama Trio really' date=' and Ojama Trio summons 3 at the same time where this can only summon 1 per destroyed monster. And really the Max. damage you can do with the 2 cards is 1500 damage since they are all in Defence Position. So you'll need a lot more to do the remaining 6500 damage. But thank you for your comment[/quote'] You're missing the OTK. Suppose I have Asura Priest and Rose for the Fallen on my side of the field. You've got a monster on your side of the field that Asura Priest can kill by battle. 1) Asura Priest attacks and destroys your monster.2) Rose for the Fallen's effect activates; I choose to give you the Black Rose Token.3) Asura Priest's effect allows it to attack again. It attacks and destroys the Black Rose Token.4) Due to the properties of the Black Rose Token listed on Rose for the Fallen, you lose 300 Life Points.5) Since Tokens are treated as monsters while in play, Rose for the Fallen's effect activates again. Return to Step 2. Steps 2-4 are repeated indefinitely, and each instance of this loop inflicts another 300 damage to your Life Points. Thus, in a single Battle Phase, I am able to use this two-card combo to win the game. Ojama Trio cannot be used in a loop such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Cobra Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Good pic and effect. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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