Assassin of the Elf Dynasty - Tuner

[Catman25]

i think it's kinda plain 8/10

[Kale]

i think it's kinda plain 8/10

 

alright, you are entitled to that opinion. though how is it plain? you could explain more... ^_^

[Catman25]

I viewed the effect as a bit simple, but that's just me.

[bury the year]

Fine' date=' I'll rate it...

 

Bit plain, but it's still balanced. Boost the ATK by 150 or so, and it'll be awesome.

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so... what would you rate it? XD i see no rating... XD

 

I don't rate with numbers. I've realized that whenever I do, people go straight to the numbers, and don't read the comments.

[Kale]

I viewed the effect as a bit simple' date=' but that's just me.

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well, yeah i understood that. but could you provide something for me to use that would make this card less.... simple?

 

if you could that would be beneficial.

 

it would be like me walking into mcdonalds and saying "your burgers are crap!" and not providing any evidence to support that, and it doesnt help them make them any better...

 

Fine' date=' I'll rate it...

 

Bit plain, but it's still balanced. Boost the ATK by 150 or so, and it'll be awesome.

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so... what would you rate it? XD i see no rating... XD

 

I don't rate with numbers. I've realized that whenever I do, people go straight to the numbers, and don't read the comments.

 

i do.... ^_^

[thunderfang12]

9.8/10

well done Kale ^_^

[Killey]

So just for clarification purposes can this card controller continually pay the costs to clear your opponent's side of the field? Seems really deadly if that's the case and I would almost tweak that because this card doesn't have any summoning conditions. Wouldn't be hard to plop this down on the field wipe your opponents field and then synchro summon for direct attacks. Plus, a brain control on this card would give the opponent free access to clear your field synchro summon their own monster or use it's effect to kill itself. That's rather deadly, in my opinion, but a nice card nonetheless.

[Kale]

9.8/10

well done Kale ^_^

 

Thanks! ^_^

 

So just for clarification purposes can this card controller continually pay the costs to clear your opponent's side of the field? Seems really deadly if that's the case and I would almost tweak that because this card doesn't have any summoning conditions. Wouldn't be hard to plop this down on the field wipe your opponents field and then synchro summon for direct attacks. Plus' date=' a brain control on this card would give the opponent free access to clear your field synchro summon their own monster or use it's effect to kill itself. That's rather deadly, in my opinion, but a nice card nonetheless.

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I think you lost something important when reading it.

 

It needs to be special summoned from your hand in order for it to have the chance to activate its effect. This isnt often in a duel that you can pull this off, especially when it doesnt give itself the option of doing so.

 

The only thing I can think of the marauding captain that would make this card broken. Summon him to special summon this card, pay 2100 life points to destroy your opponents 3 cards, then synchro into goyo.

 

If it were first turn, there wouldnt be any cards to destroy. Second turn, there usually is a monster and 2 face downs, at least that's what I see. If you are willing to -2 yourself from your hand and -2100 your LP to destroy 3 cards, then I dont see why that would be unfair. Compared to JD, this card is underpowered. ^_^

 

Thanks for looking though. ;)

[Professor Cobra]

Grammar problem, good pic and effect. 8/10

[Kale]

Grammar problem' date=' good pic and effect. 8/10

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I will trust that my OCG is flawless until such time that a mistake is pointed out. If you believe there is a mistake, please point it out otherwise I won't get very far in correcting the mistake. ^_^

 

Thank you for voting.

[Killey]

@ Kale

 

My apologies, I misread the card and completely missed the fact that it had to be Special Summoned from your hand first. I don't think it would be too hard to pull that off but it definietly makes it more difficult to get the effect off.

 

Personally, I feel that any sort of mass card destruction despite whatever costs may be invovled is still abusable. I may not have the imagination to think of the proper combos to get this effect to work but I'm sure in the right hands there are people who can abuse. Clearing the field then synchro summoning for free direct attacks. Depending on their deck it could potentially set up for 1 turn kill possibilities.

 

Typically you'll see 3 maybe 4 cards on the field and to be able to clear that field with some LP is a pretty small price to pay with what you gain from establishing your own field presence and keeping your solemn judgments for your opponents summons and moves. Even if you were to pay 2100 LP to clear 3 cards, you've just cleared your opponents field and that's a pretty big hit at any point in the game. You can clear his field establish your field and then probably still have card advantage. I wouldn't call this card completely broken since it can't be splashed into any deck since you would have to run a toolbox type deck (there are other deck types that would work with this card as well) to fully take advantage of this card.

[Kale]

@ Kale

 

My apologies' date=' I misread the card and completely missed the fact that it had to be Special Summoned from your hand first. I don't think it would be too hard to pull that off but it definietly makes it more difficult to get the effect off.

 

Personally, I feel that any sort of mass card destruction despite whatever costs may be invovled is still abusable. I may not have the imagination to think of the proper combos to get this effect to work but I'm sure in the right hands there are people who can abuse. Clearing the field then synchro summoning for free direct attacks. Depending on their deck it could potentially set up for 1 turn kill possibilities.

 

Typically you'll see 3 maybe 4 cards on the field and to be able to clear that field with some LP is a pretty small price to pay with what you gain from establishing your own field presence and keeping your solemn judgments for your opponents summons and moves. Even if you were to pay 2100 LP to clear 3 cards, you've just cleared your opponents field and that's a pretty big hit at any point in the game. You can clear his field establish your field and then probably still have card advantage. I wouldn't call this card completely broken since it can't be splashed into any deck since you would have to run a toolbox type deck (there are other deck types that would work with this card as well) to fully take advantage of this card.

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Yes, I realize this. ^_^ that was the purpose of this scenario I created. In order to activate the effect, you would need some card that special summoned it from your hand. I can't think of any now other than marauding captain.

That's -2 from you hand.

Then you could -2100 yourself for the destruction of 3 cards, as noted. All in all, not too bad. Then you could synchro into goyo, but that would be a 2800 --> 2100 LP loss relationship. That makes it equal, more or less.

 

Sure, you could combine any other cards, like cydra first then the tricky, then get 6900 damage, but you shouldn't judge a card on that. Bat can get an otk as well, and he is just a tiny machine normal monster. ^_^

 

Any card can get an otk if it is played right. It is your guys' job to decide if it can do it by itself. As there is no way it can, its not overpowered.

 

Sure, combining it with other cards makes an overpowered frontline, but the card itself isnt overpowered, am I right?

 

No more over powered than Destructotron...

[Skyson]

Unless it was set face-down, this isn't really a great counter to Gyzarus/DaD/Judgment since they can just run it over in battle. >_>

 

A useful effect for a Tuner monster, though. A lot of Tuners don't have the power to support themselves in the face of larger monsters (which is why they're Tuners, they can Synchro Summon into Synchros to take care of them) but this monster is sort of unique. It can come out as a weapon and then be used for a Synchro Summon right after blowing up a card. It would be a nice comeback after a Torrential'd field or something.

 

I don't think it's too incredible, but for a Tuner it's a nifty utility card. Seeing how it's the only card in this thread I assume as of now it's the only Dynasty card. So it can only special summon itself. But with its effect (since not many cards are used that Special Summon monsters from the hand) that would be intentional.

 

Marauding Captain would have a buddy now, for sure.

 

Warrior Synchros would probably welcome this card. A good option.

 

9/10.

[Kale]

Unless it was set face-down' date=' this isn't really a great counter to Gyzarus/DaD/Judgment since they can just run it over in battle. >_>

 

A useful effect for a Tuner monster, though. A lot of Tuners don't have the power to support themselves in the face of larger monsters (which is why they're Tuners, they can Synchro Summon into Synchros to take care of them) but this monster is sort of unique. It can come out as a weapon and then be used for a Synchro Summon right after blowing up a card. It would be a nice comeback after a Torrential'd field or something.

 

I don't think it's too incredible, but for a Tuner it's a nifty utility card. Seeing how it's the only card in this thread I assume as of now it's the only Dynasty card. So it can only special summon itself. But with its effect (since not many cards are used that Special Summon monsters from the hand) that would be intentional.

 

Marauding Captain would have a buddy now, for sure.

 

Warrior Synchros would probably welcome this card. A good option.

 

9/10.

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Well, there is one more Dynasty Monster that this card was a follow up too. There is a link to it in my Archive, which is in my sig, if you would like to see that paring.

 

Thanks for rating! I appreciate it.

 

I would like more tuners to be "combat oriented" so they could be more useful, so that's why I made it so... ^_^

[Wuu.]

this is a cool card kale.since all your card are ownage and since i am into synchro since i bought yusei's starter deck and since tuner aren't seen much around here i give you a 10/10!

[spitfire skateboards]

good card 9.9/10

[Killey]

I think the only tuners that find use in battle is Psycho Commander. In Japan X-Saber Airbellum is good 1600 atk that causes hand destruction but in combination with Rescue Cat it became abusable (not the hand destruction effect but the quick synchro summon) hence why Rescue Cat became Limited.

 

Destructron is not broken at all since 1000 LP for just the destruction of Spell/Trap cards is a hefty cost and he requires 1 other Psychic-Type monster to be on the field in order to stay on. Hence his usefulness doesn't stretch out beyond dedicated Psychic-Type decks. What does make him abusable is the combination of Telekinetic Charging Cell and the fact that he is a 1600 ATK monster that clears Spell and Traps.

 

Also, not every card can be used for a OTK regardless of how it's played otherwise you would be seeing a lot of deck variety in the game. What makes strong decks good is the ability to shut out your opponent's game through negation and mass card destruction of any type. There's a reason why cards that give out mass destruction effects that don't have a specific clause to it are semi-limited to limited in the game (Gyzarus needs to get on this list fast). Paying under 1000 LP to destroy ANY card on the field is what makes this card scary and abusable. I'm not asking you to change the effect nor am I saying this card is broken but it is definitely abusable.

[Kale]

this is a cool card kale.since all your card are ownage and since i am into synchro since i bought yusei's starter deck and since tuner aren't seen much around here i give you a 10/10!

 

good card 9.9/10

 

thank you to both of you. ^_^

 

I think the only tuners that find use in battle is Psycho Commander. In Japan X-Saber Airbellum is good 1600 atk that causes hand destruction but in combination with Rescue Cat it became abusable (not the hand destruction effect but the quick synchro summon) hence why Rescue Cat became Limited.

 

Destructron is not broken at all since 1000 LP for just the destruction of Spell/Trap cards is a hefty cost and he requires 1 other Psychic-Type monster to be on the field in order to stay on. Hence his usefulness doesn't stretch out beyond dedicated Psychic-Type decks. What does make him abusable is the combination of Telekinetic Charging Cell and the fact that he is a 1600 ATK monster that clears Spell and Traps.

 

Also' date=' not every card can be used for a OTK regardless of how it's played otherwise you would be seeing a lot of deck variety in the game. What makes strong decks good is the ability to shut out your opponent's game through negation and mass card destruction of any type. There's a reason why cards that give out mass destruction effects that don't have a specific clause to it are semi-limited to limited in the game (Gyzarus needs to get on this list fast). Paying under 1000 LP to destroy ANY card on the field is what makes this card scary and abusable. I'm not asking you to change the effect nor am I saying this card is broken but it is definitely abusable.

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you speak to me as i have no idea what is going on in the game, when in fact i do. XD

 

i understand your point, and there is a major difference between overpowered cards and abusable cards. a card may not be overpowered, but it can be used effectively in a multitude of ways in order to make it seem so, in the case of the level 3 beast tuner and rescue cat.

 

this card, in my opinion, is neither. you cant abuse it much, because once it is out of your hand it cant activate its effect again, unless you send it back to your hand somehow. and this card isnt overpowered because it needs to be special summoned from your hand, and not a lot of cards allow you to special summon a different monster from your hand.

 

i know how to make a card balanced, alright? XD i didnt give it but 900 ATK anyway, so its not like you could pull off anything super awesome with this one card by itself, furthermore making it not abusable pr overpowered. ;)

 

thats my standpoint at least...

[Killey]

I'm not critisizing your knowledge of the game, your abilities as a card maker nor am I saying that is card is unbalanced. If I came across as doing any of that, then my bad.

 

I'm pointing out the impact of your card if it were to be used in the game. Yes, there's a line between making cards for fun but it seems to me a lot of people that make cards here want to be taken seriously and are looking for comments about their cards. I'm just trying to stimualte discussion on your card because me giving you a x/10 rating posts does absolutely nothing for you.

 

I think this card could be abused in a multitude of ways and can set up OTK possibilities and that's my opinion of the card. I think you could even set up the OTK on a semi-consistent basis if you splashed it in with the current metagame and combined it with an evovled warrior toolbox deck. By no means am I saying that this is bad because it opens up new deck types to the game.

[Kale]

I'm not critisizing your knowledge of the game' date=' your abilities as a card maker nor am I saying that is card is unbalanced. If I came across as doing any of that, then my bad.

 

I'm pointing out the impact of your card if it were to be used in the game. Yes, there's a line between making cards for fun but it seems to me a lot of people that make cards here want to be taken seriously and are looking for comments about their cards. I'm just trying to stimualte discussion on your card because me giving you a x/10 rating posts does absolutely nothing for you.

 

I think this card could be abused in a multitude of ways and can set up OTK possibilities and that's my opinion of the card. I think you could even set up the OTK on a semi-consistent basis if you splashed it in with the current metagame and combined it with an evovled warrior toolbox deck. By no means am I saying that this is bad because it opens up new deck types to the game.

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i know. ^_^ and for this conversation about the card like this, what the purpose is for, i give you a cookie, and a rep. ^_^

 

i enjoy when i can talk about the card, it makes it like i actually have someone who pays attention rather than just giving a rating.

 

i appreciate it a lot. ;)