Static Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=j3tcaq7q07 If the video doesn't load, click the middle of the video and it will link to the original. At that point, go back to the original link and it should work, or at least that's how it has to for my browser (firefox). Discuss the ideas in this video. Is this something we should pursue?Would it be wrong to use Human brains for such purposes?Do you think using the neurons means that consciousness exists in the "cyborg" and is thus "trapped" inside it?If this is true, is it cruel to trap ones conscious after their death? Immediately assess the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 This is freaking weird. I oppose this. Way too creepy. I am almost speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'm amazed they were able to pull this off. Resolve: GET F-CKING CREMATED, or die from Hallucinogenic OD (if such a thing exists that isn't technically suicide) so all your neurons are in an unusable disarray. No way am I going to have my brain saved so that they can use my neurons to do menial work, especially if it makes me conscious of my useless existence. These people need to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Human brains no. unless they state before they die that it's something they want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 One would think with all your claims of Euthanasia and doing things efficiently Static, you would like this o.O...I just hope all those words you say are for the sake of debating. Anyway...My skin crawled watching this, and yet I was curious. I do not wanna see this happen with Human Brains. But for anything like a Bird etc, me dun care (just not canines, felines and other domestic animals)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 This is against human rights & plainly wrong.I am strongly against their actions & believe that they must be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 This is by far, THE MOST epic debate topic so far. However, I oppose it. But primarily for the same reasons Horus does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I have a few questions: 1) How do they sustain the brain?2) How do they know they hooked the brain up right?3) If it is powered by a rat brain, then why is there an RC antenea on the back? It is a hoax. But, on the topic, people should be able to transplant their brain into a robot. How well it will succeed is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'm amazed they were able to pull this off. Resolve: GET F-CKING CREMATED' date=' or die from Hallucinogenic OD (if such a thing exists that isn't technically suicide) so all your neurons are in an unusable disarray. No way am I going to have my brain saved so that they can use my neurons to do menial work, especially if it makes me conscious of my useless existence. These people need to be stopped.[/quote'] Q4ET (quoted for emphasis and truth) I agree 100%. F--kers like these make me sick. I hope they rot inside the infinite gates of hell. ~Xemnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 There's no point in it, I think. Depending on quickly they think, they'll reach some sort of nihilistic conclusion and destroy themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 ^^ Well... Here's the thing. They put you in a robot that is not CAPABLE of destroying itself, or perhaps parts of the robot that can induce certain things to the conscious to make it do work and feel useless.One would think with all your claims of Euthanasia and doing things efficiently Static' date=' you would like this o.O...I just hope all those words you say are for the sake of debating. Anyway...My skin crawled watching this, and yet I was curious. I do not wanna see this happen with Human Brains. But for anything like a Bird etc, me dun care (just not canines, felines and other domestic animals)...[/quote'] Releasing the conscious. That is what I would do, for the barrier between life and death is little, it is just returning to the world around you. However... Using their conscious to do labor while they should be dead would be beyond dissatisfaction of anything. In general, I push what I would be willing to do, I would die, I would lead, I'd live as a heretic or saint, but I sure as hell would not live an existence with no meaning or value, I'd live one if I was taught to have a meaning and value that is different than my own currently, but not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 This is epic on so many levels =D i so support this =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ah... I've heard of this. And unlike the rest of you, I'm not utterly creeped out. I know we shall pursue this technology in due course, no matter how Mary Shelly dislikes it. Mine only request is that they develop suitable - not to mention aesthetically pleasing - cyborgs ideal for the preservation of human neurons first. And, yes, make such a procedure available for those who want it. That's not to say I want it (I don't); I only want to give a chance for those who want to see the world after their original bodies die and rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I understand some people's dreams are to live forever (I know I would), and some will do anything to cheat death, but this is wrong. After death, your conscious is forever in a state of eternal rest. It is not for us to decide to wake that conscious back up. Some people feel they have lived a good life and see no need to go on any further. As Tabris said, you want to make a procedure for this, do it only for the volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Well, if they got a dying subject's permisssion before they died, it'd be fine, if not, it would be wrong and against rights. But if they did get permission, this could cause scientific breakthroughs. It could be the key to immortality or getting a better body for your conscience, which ain't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 some scientific breakthroughs aren't a good thing. You don't want to put a potential anarchist to live on longer than he's supposed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 That is freaking weird! And the creepy organ music [/pun]doesn't help!Another large step for science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 A large step backwards once this falls into the wrong hands and used against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Well it uses a brain to control it, so unless they find a very intelligent creature somewhere, it can't do much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 yeah, and if we plant human brains of serial killers in it to test them out, think how that'll turn out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, that could be a problem. Luckily we haven't done that yet!But I'll bet you that in 20 years or less, we'll be doing things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 well fortunately RL people are much smarter at this than all the Hollywood movies you see showing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 well fortunately RL people are much smarter at this than all the Hollywood movies you see showing this There are movies about this? I can't say I'm surprised.Those are the types of movies I avoid watching. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 The only movie I can think off the top of my head right now is Robocop 2 (a crap movie done like 18 years ago or something), but it certainly has its parallels on the topic here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hmm. Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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