Discussion : Pot Of Avarice

[ztefan]

I think it depends on the deck you have. Personally i think its better than 'Pot of Greed'.

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this cost is now not a huge as it first was' date=' does this now need to be banned, because it is becoming a more helpful version of pot of greed.

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To say that this is a Pot of Greed is proof that you haven't a clue why Pot of Greed was banned in the first place. There's a reason that Pot of Greed is banworthy while Chaos Greed is not.

 

Deck fattening is bad. If it wasnt for the +1' date=' no one would use this card. Im not too sure about banworthiness of this card. Is a +1 with sort of the cost of having to return 5 monsters in your Graveyard to the Deck worth banning this card? That would be the question that needs to be asked.

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tut tut tut, your not thinking about what i said, here's a clue what cards won't get returned to the deck when you use this card, and you will summon them alot during your duel?

 

Are you trying to imply that this is broken with Synchros? Don't make me laugh; extra copies in your Extra Deck mean that you'll never run out of the important Synchro Monsters, and this card will still fatten your deck considerably. And it's still not exactly unsituational, since it does require five monsters in the grave, and then proceeds to deplete your graveyard, which is a bad thing. Also, God forbid we have theme support in circulation.

 

If not, then are you implying that it's broken with Gladiator Beasts? If you are, then I laugh at your pathetic argument. Gladiator Beasts would barely ever get five monsters in the graveyard before the duel's end, and even if they did so they would rather keep them there as Darius/Equeste targets. And again, God forbid we have theme support in circulation.

 

If you're not referencing Gladiator Beasts either, I don't know what you're talking about.

 

I saw this used well in a frog deck the other day' date=' with substitoad and poison draw frogs. Other than that it's pretty much absent in today's play.

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Substitoad + Poison Draw Frog for massive draw doesn't work; it misses the timing.

 

firstly pot of greed is banworthy because it increases the size of your hands by 1 of no cost to the duelist. maybe i shouldn't of used the word helpful or compared it to pot of greed.

 

also i was getting on about the use of synchro's granted in tgc the extra deck limit is not a huge problem however, in ocg their is loads of syncho's now and at most cards like stardust will only be able to use 1 or two copies. so recycling synchros help, secondly it undermines the cost for pot of avarice, even if it is situational. so you are reducing the cost of this card and making it easier to pay, becuase i also find that i have much more resources of grabbing a synchro from my extra deck then i do from my graveyard.

[werewolfjedi]

if your running (out of) replacement type stall monsters, this can throw them back in, and if you have a search card that you have run out of targets for (not likely.)

 

but that is about it.

[CrabHelmet]

this cost is now not a huge as it first was' date=' does this now need to be banned, because it is becoming a more helpful version of pot of greed.

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To say that this is a Pot of Greed is proof that you haven't a clue why Pot of Greed was banned in the first place. There's a reason that Pot of Greed is banworthy while Chaos Greed is not.

 

Deck fattening is bad. If it wasnt for the +1' date=' no one would use this card. Im not too sure about banworthiness of this card. Is a +1 with sort of the cost of having to return 5 monsters in your Graveyard to the Deck worth banning this card? That would be the question that needs to be asked.

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tut tut tut, your not thinking about what i said, here's a clue what cards won't get returned to the deck when you use this card, and you will summon them alot during your duel?

 

Are you trying to imply that this is broken with Synchros? Don't make me laugh; extra copies in your Extra Deck mean that you'll never run out of the important Synchro Monsters, and this card will still fatten your deck considerably. And it's still not exactly unsituational, since it does require five monsters in the grave, and then proceeds to deplete your graveyard, which is a bad thing. Also, God forbid we have theme support in circulation.

 

If not, then are you implying that it's broken with Gladiator Beasts? If you are, then I laugh at your pathetic argument. Gladiator Beasts would barely ever get five monsters in the graveyard before the duel's end, and even if they did so they would rather keep them there as Darius/Equeste targets. And again, God forbid we have theme support in circulation.

 

If you're not referencing Gladiator Beasts either, I don't know what you're talking about.

 

I saw this used well in a frog deck the other day' date=' with substitoad and poison draw frogs. Other than that it's pretty much absent in today's play.

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Substitoad + Poison Draw Frog for massive draw doesn't work; it misses the timing.

 

firstly pot of greed is banworthy because it increases the size of your hands by 1 of no cost to the duelist.

 

So does Chaos Greed.

 

As I suspected, you do not understand why Pot of Greed is banworthy. It would be banworthy even if it only said to draw one card.

 

maybe i shouldn't of used the word helpful or compared it to pot of greed.

 

Indeed. Then you could also have not implied that this is banworthy' date=' thus saving this topic from failure.

 

also i was getting on about the use of synchro's granted in tgc the extra deck limit is not a huge problem however, in ocg their is loads of syncho's now and at most cards like stardust will only be able to use 1 or two copies. so recycling synchros help,

 

If people in the OCG want to run additional copies of the better Synchro monsters, they can just remove copies of inferior Synchro monsters.

 

And again: God Forbid We Have Theme Support In Circulation.

 

secondly it undermines the cost for pot of avarice' date=' even if it is situational. so you are reducing the cost of this card and making it easier to pay, becuase i also find that i have much more resources of grabbing a synchro from my extra deck then i do from my graveyard.

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So, guys, I heard Thunder Dragon increases your hand size by 1. This reduces the cost of Magical Stone Excavation. Let's ban Magical Stone Excavation, eh wot?

 

Pot of Avarice essentially has three distinct costs - I use the word "costs" to refer to drawbacks rather than to the literal game mechanic of costs - so let's take a look at them, shall we?

 

Cost Number One is that you need to have five monsters in the graveyard in the first place, and Synchro Monsters do absolutely nothing to get around this drawback. The fact that this condition makes Pot of Avarice useless early in the game is one of the card's biggest problems.

 

Cost Number Two is that you need to lose several monsters from your graveyard, probably a large portion of your graveyard. Once removed from the graveyard, they can't be revived, removed to use an effect, counted to Special Summon The Dark Creator, or anything of that sort. And again, Synchro Monsters do nothing whatsoever to alleviate this cost; whether the monsters were Synchro Monsters or Effect Monsters, you used to have five monsters in your grave and now you don't.

 

Cost Number Three is deck fattening: your deck size grows by five cards, all of which are Monsters. If you run Synchro Monsters, perhaps your deck size will only increase by, say, three cards. My question is: so what? It's only one of the card's costs, it's only slightly reduced, it requires you to be running Synchro monsters and to have already successfully Synchro Summoned and then lost those Synchro Monsters before this even becomes a factor.

 

Oh, and that reminds me: GFWHTSIC.

[Father Wolf]

Good old hitler pot i will only use u in my LS deck till i get enough money to fined something better =3

[armageddonagain]

They said it was spam' date=' but I couldn't remember spamming.

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Hahaha. You spammed dozens of tons, and you even acknowledged spamming several times. This whole "playing dumb" thing doesn't work Sparky. Having no knowledge of the rules doesn't exclude you from following them.

 

On-topic: Pot of Avarice. I wouldn't main deck it. Not for this meta.

Dude, I didn't spam dozens of times, maybe 2 or 3 at the most. And can you name those dozen times then?

 

On topic: I would side Pot at the least, you never know when you play a super aggro deck.