tonisanoob Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 (19)3 grandmaster3 shogun2 zanji3 irou3 junck synchron2 yaichi1 kamon1 card trooper1 breaker (16)3 allure of darkness3 ssu1 monster reborn1 heavy storm1 reasoning2 the warrioir returning alive2 lightning vortex3 rota (6)3 reckless greed3 solemn stick that in yer pipe and smoke it ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 what can Synchrons effect target? Also extra deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 You have a fetish for Card Trooper don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Are you seriously running a playset of Allure of Darkness with only 4 targets? I'm sorry, but that's a bit desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I would "eat this", but my decks are far more consistent, and would win more often. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 4 targets look closer how about 9 targets o_O also sk this has much more draw power than your sam deck thus i get shogun and grandmaster faster thus this is more consistent xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan Knight Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 4 targets look closer how about 9 targets o_O also sk this has much more draw power than your sam deck thus i get shogun and grandmaster faster thus this is more consistent xP (19)3 grandmaster3 shogun2 zanji3 irou3 junck synchron2 yaichi1 kamon1 card trooper1 breaker You're both wrong. There are seven. The only targets for Allure of Darkness are Irou, Junk Synchron, and Breaker the Magical Warrior. Also, Tickle Me Emo, Junk Synchron isn't there to benefit from the effect of resurrecting a level two monster, although it easily could. I digress. Your draw power is more inconsistent then my decks, regardless of it's presence. Every time you play a Dark monster, you're reducing the likelihood of using an Allure of Darkness and creating dead draws later in the game. You also need to think of what you're drawing into. If you have two Six Samurai, one of which is Irou, you could draw into a Grandmaster, but would your other monster be able to handle any immediate threat on the table, even with it's help? Without Spirit, I'd doubt it. You'd more or less be praying that your other card was Zanji. And what if you have the swarm already? Would you risk not using your triple-summon, to try to trade in Irou for a more effective Samurai? I would hope not. It also doesn't help that your other "draw engine" is actually just a delayed -1 that hopes to outrun the opponent by sacking with the top two cards on your deck. If you don't draw your immediate answer, you're out of luck. Even if you were to chain two to each other, which won't be often, you'd be using two cards and losing out on drawing a card for two turns to get four cards, resulting in an even trade. Strictly in terms of advantage, that's no better than a Fissure or Mystical Space Typhoon. Plus it's draw power that you need to wait a turn to use, and that forces you to commit your plays to the immediate threat and locks you out of drawing an answer to problematic situations over the next two turns. Not to mention you're begging to be hit with a Phoenix Wing Wind Blast. The deck screams for detrimental draws and gores it's own foot with the discard cost of Vortex, paired with the non-draw from Reckless Greed. Especially when you could just be drawing dead Allures after you had to summon Irou to stay alive and in the game last turn. Ideally you would have a draw card that didn't cause you to draw poorly later in the game. My advice? -3x Reckless-3x Allure-2x Irou-2x Lightning Vortex+2x Spirit+2x Hand+3x Dimensional Prison+3x Bottomless Trap Hole/Compulsory Evacuation Device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 your forgetting the 3 rota wich means in effect 10 targets and the fact i have ssu and allure getting 2 -3 reckless greeds to chain them wont be hard ALSO i used to doupt reckless greed untill i decked it and now i stick by them soo much they are amazing hand and spirit arnt needed herethe whole point is get the deadly 3 cards i need to gosamuraigrandmastershogunand if i can synchro in the meantime why the hell not as you cant tell me your six sam build has draw powerssu and spiritand one of them is an equip wich needs you to attack and destroy a monster for it to work BUT if i was going out of the dark sams route your fixes seems solid i just feel that the extra draw power is neede in sams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Ah, I didn't realize that Junk Synchron was DARK. That does make Allure a bit more playable here, you're right, but Saiyan Knight already described a few of the issues with it. On top of that, it's simply problematic to run 3 Irou, as that forces you to decrease the number of other playable monsters. However, yes, draw power is most definitely needed in Sams. I do agree that Reckless works there. Saiyan Knight doesn't, of course, we've argued about it before. :) Anyways, don't main Bottomless, especially not 3. In the age of Synchros, it's not that great. Side it against non-Synchro decks. D-Prison is good against Synchros and jus good in general, but I think that Shrink might be the better choice there. It does require that you have a monster on the field to make a difference, but it can kill Stardust just as easily as D-Prison, and it also has offensive capacity. Killing a Stardust that they didn't attack with, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 see me and the dark one we, were on the same level we are *hugs the dark one xD* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Reckless Greed is horrible drop it for 2 bottomless and a zanji or 2 hand and a spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I hate to say it but I agree with Sayain, and I dont hate to say it but I agree with JoC. Put in Hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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