armageddon08 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I admit there's a little bit of that in all of us' date=' but we're not like that 100% of the time. And if you truly believe that, shouldn't it apply to you as well?[/quote'] Hey, go through a chain of traumatic experiences and then tell us about love. Seriously, toughen up and wake up; people aren't nice just because they're ugly, and people aren't pricks just because they're hot. Saying something along the lines of "beauty is only skin deep" is no different from saying "black people eat fried chicken." Some do, some don't; to declare either extremity is a completely immature choice. Also, might I note that there is a direct relationship between your physical appearance and your character?Are you being sarcastic TL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 armageddon, as I have said, you don't HAVE to look past it all the way. I haven't all the way and I can see the other sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I admit there's a little bit of that in all of us' date=' but we're not like that 100% of the time. And if you truly believe that, shouldn't it apply to you as well?[/quote'] Hey, go through a chain of traumatic experiences and then tell us about love. Seriously, toughen up and wake up; people aren't nice just because they're ugly, and people aren't pricks just because they're hot. Saying something along the lines of "beauty is only skin deep" is no different from saying "black people eat fried chicken." Some do, some don't; to declare either extremity is a completely immature choice. Also, might I note that there is a direct relationship between your physical appearance and your character? Tea, this doesn't go far enough. Love is a weapon of control, use it or it will use you. Personality only further adds to the facade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it, the less control you really have over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 armageddon' date=' as I have said, you don't HAVE to look past it all the way. I haven't all the way and I can see the other sides[/quote']What's the best way to see the other side? I'm not good at this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 well, I did it by spending a little time with the person (doesn't have to be too much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Love and hate are the two lenses of human reasoning. Without emotions, the clearest and most efficient decisions are made. Machines function as fast as they do because they have no hearts. Politicians slug through endlessly fruitless days because they have hearts. Washing yourself of emotions is really a good measure; it takes away your greatest weakness. However, you must realize what you sacrifice in gaining your strength. I still love, unlike Ben, but I reserve it for only the few that I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 and if you trust too few people, you'd end up hurting yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I disagree. The ugly people that I know have crap personalities; not because they aren't "nice' date='" but rather because they're a sad bunch of weak human beings. They are completely co-dependent individuals that amount to absolutely nothing when separated and only slightly more when left to their groups. The ugly people in my classes always perform the worst, and they always seem to be a hindering factor in group projects. Ugliness is probably in no way directly connected to intellect, but it does affect mentality, and that's where ugly people fail. From what I observe, many ugly people develop these weak, narcissistic complexes in an attempt to mask their faults, so they never have to acknowledge the issue of their hideous physical appearances and, thus, will never change. As soon as something like this takes root, it spreads to other areas, like academics and social life, and all of a sudden you have someone who is entirely accustomed to failure and will make no attempt at improvement. In a nutshell, ugly people develop into apathetic meat sacks that differ from a pencil only in that it technically has a functioning brain. To society, on a grand scale, these individuals are absolutely worthless as they do not contribute to the natural competitive atmosphere that propels our advancement as human beings. As a matter of fact, these apathetic individuals are even detrimental. Humans follow by example and, when you have these ugly individuals around, the apathy spreads. The eventual culminating result would be a degenerate society of apathy serving no purpose whatsoever in its existence, contributing absolutely nothing to the rest of the world. These are extreme examples that I provide here, but the underlying message is not exaggerated in the least bit. I honestly believe that ugly individuals tend to be apathetic and detrimental people, and I honestly hate them for their lack of motivation and contribution to humanity. I've even tried getting acquainted with some ugly people personally, and I can legitimately say from experience that they exhibit poor character and a lack of sound judgment. From my experience and self-reasoning I conclude that ugly individuals are poor individuals. tl;dr: Ugly people suck. QUESTION FOR THE READER: Check out successful individuals throughout history; proportionally, how many of them are ugly?[/quote'] I turned my one-paragraph response into a tl;dr, you guys should read it.and if you trust too few people' date=' you'd end up hurting yourself[/quote'] In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Love and hate are the two lenses of human reasoning. Without emotions, the clearest and most efficient decisions are made. Machines function as fast as they do because they have no hearts. Politicians slug through endlessly fruitless days because they have hearts. Washing yourself of emotions is really a good measure; it takes away your greatest weakness. However, you must realize what you sacrifice in gaining your strength. I still love, unlike Ben, but I reserve it for only the few that I trust. I am glad I made that sacrifice. It has helped me so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Love and hate are the two lenses of human reasoning. Without emotions, the clearest and most efficient decisions are made. Machines function as fast as they do because they have no hearts. Politicians slug through endlessly fruitless days because they have hearts. Washing yourself of emotions is really a good measure; it takes away your greatest weakness. However, you must realize what you sacrifice in gaining your strength. I still love, unlike Ben, but I reserve it for only the few that I trust. I am glad I made that sacrifice. It has helped me so much. You see through those philanthropist groups as cheap, superficial attempts at justifying an otherwise meaningless existence to others, right? Look beneath their emotional propaganda and you see nothing; it's just a bunch of people yelling about, trying to associate themselves with some "moral" cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Love and hate are the two lenses of human reasoning. Without emotions, the clearest and most efficient decisions are made. Machines function as fast as they do because they have no hearts. Politicians slug through endlessly fruitless days because they have hearts. Washing yourself of emotions is really a good measure; it takes away your greatest weakness. However, you must realize what you sacrifice in gaining your strength. I still love, unlike Ben, but I reserve it for only the few that I trust. I am glad I made that sacrifice. It has helped me so much. You see through those philanthropist groups as cheap, superficial attempts at justifying an otherwise meaningless existence to others, right? Look beneath their emotional propaganda and you see nothing; it's just a bunch of people yelling about, trying to associate themselves with some "moral" cause. No, I see a group of people trying to persuade me with meaningless things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 when I say you trust too few you'd hurt yourself it means there's no one for you to depend on. And yes, I have heard of the saying "you can't depend on anyone in this world but yourself", I do not believe one person has the ability to do EVERYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 when I say you trust too few you'd hurt yourself it means there's no one for you to depend on. And yes' date=' I have heard of the saying "you can't depend on anyone in this world but yourself", I do not believe one person has the ability to do EVERYTHING[/quote'] I can do anything that matters to me, why do I need anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 ok fine, so there's exceptions. You think everyone else on the planet should see it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 ok fine' date=' so there's exceptions. You think everyone else on the planet should see it that way?[/quote'] Yes, I am only trying to help you not feel pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I understand your point, I really do. You're getting at if I trust others and the trust is betrayed, I'd feel even more hurt. But haven't you ever had a trust that never got betrayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 that's more of a paradox: the more you try to control it' date=' the less control you really have over it[/quote'] No, I don't allow it to control me. I have removed myself from love. I have become more awake then I ever have been. Love and hate are the two lenses of human reasoning. Without emotions, the clearest and most efficient decisions are made. Machines function as fast as they do because they have no hearts. Politicians slug through endlessly fruitless days because they have hearts. Washing yourself of emotions is really a good measure; it takes away your greatest weakness. However, you must realize what you sacrifice in gaining your strength. I still love, unlike Ben, but I reserve it for only the few that I trust. I am glad I made that sacrifice. It has helped me so much. You see through those philanthropist groups as cheap, superficial attempts at justifying an otherwise meaningless existence to others, right? Look beneath their emotional propaganda and you see nothing; it's just a bunch of people yelling about, trying to associate themselves with some "moral" cause. No, I see a group of people trying to persuade me with meaningless things. That'd be the same thing. I understand your point' date=' I really do. You're getting at if I trust others and the trust is betrayed, I'd feel even more hurt. But haven't you ever had a trust that never got betrayed?[/quote'] It is in the nature of living things to act in their own interest, and paths cross. Betrayal is inevitable, although the impact is variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 then it depends on the degree of impact. And yes, I too have had plenty of those shares before. I just try to believe in something better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I haven't tried talking to the people I like because I know they don't really like me and I don't know any ways to reach out to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 well, this is where it takes time. I admit there's times where you shouldn't try, but there's always the first time to try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benraino Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I understand your point' date=' I really do. You're getting at if I trust others and the trust is betrayed, I'd feel even more hurt. But haven't you ever had a trust that never got betrayed?[/quote'] No, everyone I trusted betrayed me. After a while, someone special opened my eyes, and killed me again(figuratively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 well that explains your lack of trust. Come on, there has to be someone in this world you DO trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I feel like Roland (if some of you get the connection, speak up, if you don't, don't comment) when it comes to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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