Love - An Empty Emotion

[ragnarok1945]

Love is love

What more do you people want?

 

Obviously, to understand if it's even worth it to begin with

[MarbleZone]

The fact that the topic's creator wrote this during a depression inevitably takes away from the validity of his statements. :/

 

The overall opinion of some people in this site is that love isn't worth it because it hurts more than it helps. To those people, all I can say is wait a few more years and stop acting lone ranger for now.

 

This takes me back to another discussion that took place in Debates, where most people defended that old people should not be given access to public services such as healthcare, because they weren't helpful contributions to the society, but rather a waste of resources.

 

While in theory yes, it would be ideal to spend resources on active members of society only, in no way could that ever fit in a realistic scenario, for one simple reason... Motivation.

No man will ever try his best to make a helpful contribution to society if his reward is not assured in the end. What point is there in working your a** off if there are no benefits whatsoever to reap when you are finally allowed to rest?

 

The same goes for love. While more often than not it results in pain, it also happens to be the most beautiful feeling one can experience. Simply put, any man that dedicates his life to superfluous relationships/none at all, will always feel like something is missing. Love fits in a hole that inevitably becomes bothersome until it's filled - even if we don't realize it's there, which seems to be the case, understandably, with many people who replied. An old man that was never married, well, we all know how those are - bitter and mad at the entire world.

 

Ultimately, always being alone hurts a lot more in the long run than having somebody and losing them - if only because with the latter, you'll know you're good enough to have had somebody. A really lousy feeling, and I speak for past experience, is looking around and seeing you're the only one alone. That's a really hard blow to anybody's self-esteem.

[ragnarok1945]

How right you are, unless you are devoid of emotions (which would make you a machine), you need to feel loved. The important thing in life is the fact that people care about you (regardless and who, and how many). For some people, it's what keeps them going forward, what keeps them from going insane and/or committing suicide or ending up in a mental hospital because they feel they have nothing to live for.

 

The people who disagree can say all they want about how they don't need anyone, but they only say that during times of frustrations, when it feels like no one is on their side, the whole world against them. They can deny it all they want, but that "need to be loved" hole will remain in them

[Careless Whisper]

The fact that the topic's creator wrote this during a depression inevitably takes away from the validity of his statements. :/

 

The overall opinion of some people in this site is that love isn't worth it because it hurts more than it helps. To those people' date=' all I can say is wait a few more years and stop acting lone ranger for now.

 

This takes me back to another discussion that took place in Debates, where most people defended that old people should not be given access to public services such as healthcare, because they weren't helpful contributions to the society, but rather a waste of resources.

 

While in theory yes, it would be ideal to spend resources on active members of society only, in no way could that ever fit in a realistic scenario, for one simple reason... Motivation.

[b']No man will ever try his best to make a helpful contribution to society if his reward is not assured in the end. What point is there in working your a** off if there are no benefits whatsoever to reap when you are finally allowed to rest?[/b]

 

The same goes for love. While more often than not it results in pain, it also happens to be the most beautiful feeling one can experience. Simply put, any man that dedicates his life to superfluous relationships/none at all, will always feel like something is missing. Love fits in a hole that inevitably becomes bothersome until it's filled - even if we don't realize it's there, which seems to be the case, understandably, with many people who replied. An old man that was never married, well, we all know how those are - bitter and mad at the entire world.

 

Ultimately, always being alone hurts a lot more in the long run than having somebody and losing them - if only because with the latter, you'll know you're good enough to have had somebody. A really lousy feeling, and I speak for past experience, is looking around and seeing you're the only one alone. That's a really hard blow to anybody's self-esteem.

 

I'm giving Blackwind a plus rep because he is actually the only one here, besides me and alittle of Ragnorak, that actually understands that love will bring you more in life. Blackwind basicly reinstated acouple of my points except in alittle nicer way. I know I may have been harsh with my responces, but my point is harmless unless it gets the correct results.

 

The bolded text in the quote is the point that gives love it's grand purpose.

[ragnarok1945]

The bolded text also bring up another point: the patience factor. We all do our best to get our reward in society, but at the end of the day everyone has a limit to how long we're willing to wait for that day to come.

 

The people who feel they don't need anyone may have felt they had waited for so long and nothing ever happened, so what's the point?

 

This question is something that depends on your endurance, as some times the reward of love can take many, many years before it can even materialize, whereas others can have their seeds sown in mere weeks.

 

It is also what keeps you going in life: if you truly believe the love you fight for will simply vanish or you will never succeed in getting it, then what exactly is compelling you to fight on as of right now?

[Careless Whisper]

The bolded text also bring up another point: the patience factor. We all do our best to get our reward in society' date=' but at the end of the day everyone has a limit to how long we're willing to wait for that day to come.

 

The people who feel they don't need anyone may have felt they had waited for so long and nothing ever happened, so what's the point?

 

This question is something that depends on your endurance, as some times the reward of love can take many, many years before it can even materialize, whereas others can have their seeds sown in mere weeks.

 

It is also what keeps you going in life: if you truly believe the love you fight for will simply vanish or you will never succeed in getting it, then what exactly is compelling you to fight on as of right now?

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Well, my suggestion to the patience point is if you are still in high school and you can't handle a high school relationship cut, then wait until after you graduate before finding another girl.

[ragnarok1945]

Yeah I know. For high school relationships tend to fall apart if the couple goes their separate ways by the time of the uni, and that does put a major dagger in your heart, at least initially.

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

Really, I think love is when you stare at the person for so long, and can't look away. Thats first love.

 

I truly think that people in middle school are more pashinate about the emotion love then high schoolers. Well, that is for my school. Maybe not for everyone, but my school people really care for others and they don't just get girlfriend/boyfriends for the hell of it. They get them because they truly love eachother.

 

Love is when he/she remains in your heart and whenever he/she is around, you get butterflies in your stomach and tend to blush. Then he/she hugs you tight and whispers "why are you blushing?" and you blush some more. Its when your heart tingles when you look into his eyes, its when your heart is happy with the person you truly admire.

[Saturn of Elemia]

Really' date=' I think love is when you stare at the person for so long, and can't look away. Thats first love.

 

I truly think that people in middle school are more pashinate about the emotion love then high schoolers. Well, that is for my school. Maybe not for everyone, but my school people really care for others and they don't just get girlfriend/boyfriends for the hell of it. They get them because they truly love eachother.

 

Love is when he/she remains in your heart and whenever he/she is around, you get butterflies in your stomach and tend to blush. Then he/she hugs you tight and whispers "why are you blushing?" and you blush some more. Its when your heart tingles when you look into his eyes, its when your heart is happy with the person you truly admire.

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Yup. That happened to me twice before. Sadly, those relationships all ended badly...

 

Not gonna give up, though. Just gotta keep moving..

[ragnarok1945]

not for me Fire Haze. That happened to me when I was 13 and there was never any feelings in return, so I knew it was fake. It took me quite some more years before I found it

[Careless Whisper]

Not gonna give up' date=' though. Just gotta keep moving..[/b']

 

I suggest you just do what Saturn is doing and you'll find your true love.

 

Although, I am unsure of Injection is even reading this hread anymore, hence he's not even responding anymore.

[ragnarok1945]

Did you find yours that way Meti? Because that's how I found mine

[Careless Whisper]

I found mine through patience, moving on from emotional pains, and, in my opinion, trying to be as gentile of a spirit as I needed to be. Out in the real world, I am very different from on YCM. I am not very violent with my words, I'm not as quick witted as you could assume me of being, but I am still willing to try my best to improve. That's all you have to do, try to improve yourself. See love in the many different ways as possible.

When I lost a loved one not too long ago, (Alot of people are familiar with this) yeah..when I lost one of dearest friends, I was in total shock and I didn't think I'd press on at that moment. But, I was wrong, Because after I saw my friend shoot herself, I may have passed out in emotional shock, but when I woke up, I heard the most poweful song I have ever heard to this day. And I heard my friend's voice singing along to it, lik she was talking to me, describing what the bible calls as "Heaven" and telling me that I'll see her again after it's my time to transcend into that same place that she is in now.

Since I heard that song, with her voice ringing with it, my life has changed. I had worked my life enough to find and love a new girlfriend. I was finally enlightened by the prescence and love of God. I now feel like there really is someone up there. I didn't just halluccinate Cyd's voice ringing and singing with that song, I felt it, I heard it plain and clear, and now I am on the bridge of turning away from being an agnostic and throwing my life into God's hands right now.

That is the love I feel, that is the love I have gained, just for being patient. That is what you get, when you are patient enough to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXH-l3nz85E]See it now, out beyond all the breaking of waves and tribulations. It's the pace and home of ascending souls, who swam out there in love.[/url]

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

Its different for other people! You just can't tell someone "Oh, this is how love feels like," You can't! Love is your own emotion depending on how you express it; how you embrace it. No one, not even you with your logical ways, Meti, can tell someone the true way of love. They find out for themself and its different for other people. You can't say I'm wrong with this post, because it is fairly right. Non of this you are posting is true about me and my boyfriend.

 

When he is around, I feel so happy, I feel so shy aswell. I just want to hold him in my arms, but I can't out of shyness. I love him so much its hard to express it, but I still feel the tingling feeling within my heart. I feel a wellspring of hope when he is around and when I walk with him, I feel like its a nice walk in the beauitful nature of he woods, I feel like he is my best surrounding, no nature can be more amazing then him. My boyfrend is very special to me and thats how I'm in love with him. I'm shy with him around, but he knows and I know we both love eachother. With each poem he writes for me, through each caring move he does for me, he remains in my heart forever. Even if we might be fighting (which never happened, and won't happen) I still care for how he is taking the situation and hope to get it fixed. I hope the best for him, and he is my only wish. I love him dear through all my heart and my heart is what I give him. I love him with a tender start and never will I give in. I will remain to love him for heavens more, and he will remain to love me forever. For he is my sky and I'm his star and if he remains under the same sky as me, then we surely can last forever.

 

I love you, Patrick.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[Careless Whisper]

Fire Haze... I was not being logical that time. I was showing my personal experience of losing someone I deeply cared for and how I moved on from it. Thanks for ruining my damn feeling Miranda.. You completely killed it.

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

Why are you so rude? Well I'm sorry for "completely ruining it." Meti, your becomming really rude lately, stop doing that and don't argue with me from this post. I was reflecting from another post you did, Meti and that wasn't suppose to be mean to you or whatever.

 

Thats how I feel love is, thats my oppinion.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[Careless Whisper]

I will not argueing, I am stating "my" truth. My first serious responce to this guy was "What is Love? Love is whatever you believe it to be." Meaning I clearly stated that everyone has different beliefs on what love is in there hearts.

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

the whole thing was lol

i couldnt take it seriously after the second paragraph xD

 

I love it when someone has a problem with their life and they decide to rant about it on the net, believing it to be true, trying to convince others that it's true too.

 

you're not loved =/= love isnt real

 

High school romances are pretty worthless, yeah.

I've seen my friend go through 3 different relationships in the year I've known her, one was a week and another 6 months. They all ended with her being sad.

I can see where you draw upon for seeing that love is false.

But, that whole emo rant was just a load of emotions you needed to get out, you'll reject it all when you find love :P

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

@Meti: Ok, ok, I wish not to speak of the fact, for your not understanding what I'm trying to say. Don't ask me to explain it, for I wish this matter to be over.

 

@Abstract: Your cold hearted, thats a bad way to live without love, but different people live different lives, I suppose. So, I won't hold a grudge.

 

Anyways, love is different for everyone. No one can descirbe it for everyone. You have to find out the feeling for yourself because no one feels the same emotion with love. Its all different depedning on what you love and the person you love.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[Careless Whisper]

@Meti: Ok' date=' ok, I wish not to speak of the fact, for your not understanding what I'm trying to say. Don't ask me to explain it, for I wish this matter to be over.

 

@Abstract: Your cold hearted, thats a bad way to live without love, but different people live different lives, I suppose. So, I won't hold a grudge.

 

Anyways, love is different for everyone. No one can descirbe it for everyone. [b']You have to find out the feeling for yourself because no one feels the same emotion with love. Its all different depedning on what you love and the person you love.[/b]

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

 

Bolded = The exact point I am trying to make, but I guess your opinio has to mask mine.

 

I am not argueing, but I shall explain further to you somewhere else.

 

Anyway, once again..I quothe thyself. "Love is whatever you believe it to be."

[ragnarok1945]

yeah, except with some people, they choose not to believe at all, that's why they never find it

[Abstract [Atrocity]]

@Abstract: Your cold hearted' date=' thats a bad way to live without love, but different people live different lives, I suppose. So, I won't hold a grudge.

 

Anyways, love is different for everyone. No one can descirbe it for everyone. You have to find out the feeling for yourself because no one feels the same emotion with love. Its all different depedning on what you love and the person you love.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

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who said I never believed in love? I think it's real and I think i'm getting close. the topic creator is the one who's cold >>

shutting out the hope of love based on some hormone filled moment.

[Marisa Kirisame-ze]

*rolls eyes at Meti*

 

Anyways, love could also mean different things, you know. Like you know people say "I love that shirt!" Its a different meaning, so love have different meanings and what not. There is a different point of view when thinking of love. I'm done in this thread so no more furthur agrue comes along.

 

The Crimson One,

Miranda-chan

[ragnarok1945]

yeah but this is about loving PEOPLE, Fire Haze. Everyone has their own views on how this is to be accomplished, though virtually everyone who wants it has to share one thing: persistency

[snake101]

i believe that yes love is a lot of hard work but it is not nearly impossible unless your to lazy to work on a relationship or improve it and i think thats y relationships don't always work you've got to realize no one's perfect and if you can truly accept your girlfriend/boyfriends flaws than the relationship will probably last