Davok Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 not everyone. Some people have far more rebellious attitudes And 90% of those people are idiots who go on crack and joyride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Being rebellious is fukking stupid. Seriously, if, when there is a decision to be made, you weigh all the options and their possible outcomes and determine that going against your mother's/society's/the social norm's wishes will have the largest beneficial impact on yourself and others around you, than go for it. I congratulate you on being so open-minded. If, like most "rebels", you simply act oppositional for rebellion's own sake, you are even more close-minded than the conformists out there. This is not a constant, but most parents at least really do love their children a lot. Even if they have trouble properly expressing their feelings; even if they're absolutely terrible at parenting; I think it's important that you keep that in mind. Also, every once in a while, just try really hard to look at things from your parents' perspective. You'll find it really helps you get over all the indignant feelings of "But Mama, I wanna go play with my friends even though it's three in the morning and I have school at six!" bull. And perhaps more importantly, it will help you feel able to return some of the dedication your parents probably have to you. Raising a child is no small thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 not everyone. Some people have far more rebellious attitudes And 90% of those people are idiots who go on crack and joyride. and the remaining 10% turn out better than their mothers' attitude of "I'm right all the time" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 not everyone. Some people have far more rebellious attitudes And 90% of those people are idiots who go on crack and joyride. and the remaining 10% turn out better than their mothers' attitude of "I'm right all the time" No, actually those 10% are lazy idiots who just do what their friends say is cool and have no independence whatsoever. Then if they are still too immature to stop biting the hand that feeds you yet whine whenever they retract their hand, they evolve into the 90% of idiots who go on crack and joyride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 perhaps, it is what leads so many people to turn against their moms and dads nowadays Some of my friends were raised in a "Do as I say, no questions asked" family, their tempers certainly didn't go well with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Oh' date=' you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Try having a mother who doesn't let you go anywhere after dinner, and makes you go to bed around 10-10:30. It sure seems like a pain to me.[/quote'] Oh I had one who used to be like that for WAY too many years. A complete control freakOh, my mother seems to go beyond control freak sometimes. It's like I can't live the way I want to without getting directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Ah, well, it always depends. I'm retracting from this conversation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Oh' date=' you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Try having a mother who doesn't let you go anywhere after dinner, and makes you go to bed around 10-10:30. It sure seems like a pain to me.[/quote'] Oh I had one who used to be like that for WAY too many years. A complete control freakOh, my mother seems to go beyond control freak sometimes. It's like I can't live the way I want to without getting directions. Same here, some mothers simply think you're so stupid you can NEVER make the right decision so as a result they make all of them for you whether you like it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Oh' date=' you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Try having a mother who doesn't let you go anywhere after dinner, and makes you go to bed around 10-10:30. It sure seems like a pain to me.[/quote'] Oh I had one who used to be like that for WAY too many years. A complete control freakOh, my mother seems to go beyond control freak sometimes. It's like I can't live the way I want to without getting directions. Same here, some mothers simply think you're so stupid you can NEVER make the right decision so as a result they make all of them for you whether you like it or notThat's exactly how it is. And to add to my misery, my dad follows whatever my mom says, so he's like some kind of deputy for a head judge, and I don't get any real say in what's going on because my parents say I'm at the bottom of the food chain. And they also say if I don't like the rules I should move out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 that's exactly how my family is, armageddon08. My dad either is on my mom's side, or just stays out of the topic all together, and she expects me to suck it up to everything she has to say (even on the cases when I know exactly what to do and she has no clue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 that's exactly how my family is' date=' armageddon08. My dad either is on my mom's side, or just stays out of the topic all together, and she expects me to suck it up to everything she has to say (even on the cases when I know exactly what to do and she has no clue)[/quote']I guess you know another man's misery man.You can't just sympathize, but you can empathize:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's a form of power moms never want to let go of (they just have to learn the hard way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 And the hard way is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 that's something we all determine for ourselves when we go independent (it's different from person to person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I just tried talking to my mom (well, yelling actually) about how she doesn't listen to me and controls my life, but she didn't seem to understand it (at least I don't think she did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 that can be more of a generation difference (though not likely). Remember, everyone has a different definition of "what the right thing to do is under these circumstances", she feels it's for your own good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 that can be more of a generation difference (though not likely). Remember' date=' everyone has a different definition of "what the right thing to do is under these circumstances", she feels it's for your own good[/quote']That's exactly what she says, and she also says I should get more independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 That is more contradicting. In order to become independent you have to be allowed to make your own decisions, and for you to take your own initiative. Being controlled merely reinforces the fact she is not convinced you're ready to be independent just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 That is more contradicting. In order to become independent you have to be allowed to make your own decisions' date=' and for you to take your own initiative. Being controlled merely reinforces the fact she is not convinced you're ready to be independent just yet[/quote']That's what I told her, but she says she'll give me more freedom if I become independent(there's a situation you can't easily solve). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I had the same problem once. I believe it may have to do with age. She may believe some things you're simply too young to understand, and it can only change as you grow older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I had the same problem once. I believe it may have to do with age. She may believe some things you're simply too young to understand' date=' and it can only change as you grow older.[/quote']Even when I'm turning 17 in like a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 *shrugs* Well some of my friends had families that firmly believed you'll NEVER be able to understand and make the right choice, so they'll make the decision for you. Some cases require their own decision to backfire on them before they start to see the other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 *shrugs* Well some of my friends had families that firmly believed you'll NEVER be able to understand and make the right choice' date=' so they'll make the decision for you. Some cases require their own decision to backfire on them before they start to see the other way[/quote']Any suggestions on how I can contribute to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 This will require two cases, at least. In the first case, you let her make the call, but tell her what you would do. If her's backfires, you can then tell her why. In the 2nd case, you tell her since her last call backfired, you should make the call this time. If it works, then it'll prove you know better than her during some cases. This should get her to at least start to see maybe she doesn't know what's best all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 This will require two cases' date=' at least. In the first case, you let her make the call, but tell her what you would do. If her's backfires, you can then tell her why. In the 2nd case, you tell her since her last call backfired, you should make the call this time. If it works, then it'll prove you know better than her during some cases. This should get her to at least start to see maybe she doesn't know what's best all the time[/quote']but what if your mom just happens to be a superdetailed person who hardly ever makes mistakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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