Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Then they are put in jail. The Crimson One,Miranda-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raenii Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 You sir need to be shot in the head because I wasted a few seconds of my life reading this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 and if you don't kill them, the later generations will simply hide their crimes better to avoid a life sentence. You have to send a message to them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 You sir need to be shot in the head because I wasted a few seconds of my life reading this thread. Your very cold hearted. Your very mean. Please stop your actions, no one deserves to die. My point isn't made, but I can walk away knowing that I know whats best. The Crimson One,Miranda-chan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 You sir need to be shot in the head because I wasted a few seconds of my life reading this thread. IndeedWasted good time reading people cry and vent their problems to complete strangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raenii Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 You sir need to be shot in the head because I wasted a few seconds of my life reading this thread. Your very cold hearted. Your very mean. Please stop your actions' date=' no one deserves to die. My point isn't made, but I can walk away knowing that I know whats best. The Crimson One,Miranda-chan[/quote'] [align=right]>_> This is why sarcasm on the internet fails. Because of people like you. Get a sense of humor. I won't shoot anyone from the computer. [/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 you knowing what's best doesn't apply to EVERYONE, nor does anything I say mean it's best for everyone. Some people have to die for the greater good, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 you knowing what's best doesn't apply to EVERYONE' date=' nor does anything I say mean it's best for everyone. Some people have to die for the greater good, you know[/quote'] Ah, but doesn't that just lead us to killing those who do not fit into a forced utopian world in which those who do not fit the standards are killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 we're not going to kill everyone who does not agree with our POV/standards. We have flexibility for those to be different and accept them for who they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 What about those that are doing this "bullying"? Aren't they accepted by others within boundaries? Wouldn't that mean that there would be ignoring of that acceptance and actually destroying the differences that you say are now to be protected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 In regards to the bullying you're saying, you're right in that it is accepted by others within certain boundaries, but they are not among the majority. Although this has had severe consequences it the past, the general saying is still the most popular belief of right and wrong is usually the right one (until something significant proves them wrong) Not that we approve of this bullying as a difference, but we have to accept it to some extent as it will always be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Lupia Blitzer Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 megafiredoom, you are overreacting. But some people do deserve to be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 So now you are going with the majority. See, that's where you can't truly function. You take out those not a part of the majority, you now have a smaller group. Another situation arises, the majority is different and you take out those in the minority, once again shrinking your group. You keep going along this track until either you are forcing singularity or killing off everyone. The reason that the general saying of what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong is because it's the same group saying both that say it is the general saying. That same majority could say it is right to kill babies for no reason, but because it is the general saying that they are right then it is right to follow them. There is no significance to disprove it, because the most accepted thought is that it is right. You can not kill a person simply because of bullying or you either force uniformity or kill everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 well obviously to get unity requires you kill everyone else so they can't disagree with you, but you don't kill the bullies for such a case. You merely punish them for their actions due to the majority's belief what they're doing is wrong. The problem with the most popular belief being the right one takes way too much effort for some people to attempt in order to prove them otherwise. Of course, for every scenario, you do have to listen to most perspectives before you make a decision (and this of course is also assuming the decision is yours to make). You try to compromise so that people will respect your decision in the end, at least to some degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 well obviously to get unity requires you kill everyone else so they can't disagree with you' date=' but you don't kill the bullies for such a case. You merely punish them for their actions due to the majority's belief what they're doing is wrong. The problem with the most popular belief being the right one takes way too much effort for some people to attempt in order to prove them otherwise. Of course, for every scenario, you do have to listen to most perspectives before you make a decision (and this of course is also assuming the decision is yours to make). You try to compromise so that people will respect your decision in the end, at least to some degree[/quote'] So, according to what you are saying, is that we should leave things exactly how they are because this is exactly how things already work.So everyone who has cried needs to suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 It seems like too much trouble to abolish the execution laws, and so far it's too much a liability problem to extend it to lesser crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm not the one to draw the lines' date=' I merely said it has to be up to you to draw the lines, and that's it.[/quote'] Existentlism ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Time to get some things straightWhy would you be so heartless to shoot a kid?Honestly' date=' the post was going to be much longer (by about 5 pages). I had to cut it down, though, as to avoid having nobody read my post. I had more examples than this, and if I can find them, I will post them. No one deserves to die, they should be able to get chances, once they use it up, they should be punished, never killed.There are a lot of people who deserve death. Both as a punishment and a release. That's my philosopy anyway. You sir need to be shot in the head because I wasted a few seconds of my life reading this thread....lolz^_^ So now you are going with the majority. See' date=' that's where you can't truly function. You take out those not a part of the majority, you now have a smaller group. Another situation arises, the majority is different and you take out those in the minority, once again shrinking your group. You keep going along this track until either you are forcing singularity or killing off everyone. The reason that the general saying of what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong is because it's the same group saying both that say it is the general saying. That same majority could say it is right to kill babies for no reason, but because it is the general saying that they are right then it is right to follow them. There is no significance to disprove it, because the most accepted thought is that it is right. You can not kill a person simply because of bullying or you either force uniformity or kill everyone.[/quote']I said earlier that they probably shouldn't be killed, just injured. A physical responce works a hell of a lot better than just saying 'stop' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 how right you are, megafiredoom. And it sends the message FAR more effectively than words. For some 8 year old kids, using your fist is the only language they understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thread title is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 depending on the age. I would never condemn that on an 8 year old, I prefer a tactic worse than death for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 depending on the age. I would never condemn that on an 8 year old' date=' I prefer a tactic worse than death for them[/quote'] It depends on whether or not they're retarded and/or unreasonable as human beings. Age as nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 and sometimes they can be too young to understand what is reasonable and what is not, of course age plays a factor. That's why some people learn faster than others do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 and sometimes they can be too young to understand what is reasonable and what is not' date=' of course age plays a factor. That's why some people learn faster than others do[/quote'] If you can't keep up, you deserve to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Under certain conditions. But this isn't about who can learn faster than others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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