[DISC] divine wraith: surpising that no one uses it anymore

[werewolfjedi]

just thought I would bring it back up for a re-evaluation.

 

counter trap

discard one card, neg the effect of an effect monster, and destroy that monster.

 

it's only real flaw is that it doesn't stop itself from dieing from heavy storm or mst.

 

and people play pwwb, which just places the target on top of the deck for the same cost of 1 card, and if it is monsters that need to get sent back only because they are disruptive, why not then trade it out for this second game?

 

it has to be stopped by ether solemn, bribe, counter counter (also not run), and 7 tools of the bandit (again, not run).

 

discuss.

[iAmNateXero]

It has uses.

[Skuldur]

it is good but PWWB is better with SD out

[werewolfjedi]

it is good but PWWB is better with SD out

 

stardust? that is not a problem most of the time when you would want to activate this card.

but I get your point.

 

funny thing is, I could use it to neg SD.

 

the effect monster doesn't have to be on the field to activate this card. it just has to turn on.

[CrabHelmet]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play, people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[werewolfjedi]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

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I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

but that is the fault of the meta from where I stand, since people run chain-capable stuff to avoid this and other cards.

[CrabHelmet]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[/quote']

 

I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

 

Given PWWB's vastly greater utility, this is very minor.

 

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

You've done a fabulous job not reading my post properly. Keep up the good work.

[werewolfjedi]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[/quote']

 

I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

 

Given PWWB's vastly greater utility, this is very minor.

 

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

You've done a fabulous job not reading my post properly. Keep up the good work.

 

I was talking about the response of PWWB, sorry for not clarifying. I get where you could make that mistake.

[CrabHelmet]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[/quote']

 

I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

 

Given PWWB's vastly greater utility, this is very minor.

 

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

You've done a fabulous job not reading my post properly. Keep up the good work.

 

I was talking about the response of PWWB' date=' sorry for not clarifying. I get where you could make that mistake.

[/quote']

 

Although being able to target non-monsters is another advantage of PWWB, I never said anything about that advantage in my post.

[werewolfjedi]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[/quote']

 

I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

 

Given PWWB's vastly greater utility, this is very minor.

 

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

You've done a fabulous job not reading my post properly. Keep up the good work.

 

I was talking about the response of PWWB' date=' sorry for not clarifying. I get where you could make that mistake.

[/quote']

 

Although being able to target non-monsters is another advantage of PWWB, I never said anything about that advantage in my post.

 

trying to get to the next likely point you would have likely brought up if I had only said the first thing.

 

I throw something on top of their deck, and a search effect is used to shuffle it most of the time.

 

and where I play, that means crush card w/ a sangan as the tribute.

 

course, thats only because I have the luck to be in the one place with at least 6 of them being used. on a weekly basis.

[CrabHelmet]

Stardust Dragon can't ever negate this. Ever. Learn to play' date=' people.

 

PWWB is chainable to non-monster effects that would cause its own destruction, can lock the opponent's draw, and can be used to stop monsters that don't happen to be using their effects at the moment.

[/quote']

 

I can chain royal decree to this one. I can't to wraith.

 

Given PWWB's vastly greater utility, this is very minor.

 

I could also chain those non-monster targets most of the time as well.

 

You've done a fabulous job not reading my post properly. Keep up the good work.

 

I was talking about the response of PWWB' date=' sorry for not clarifying. I get where you could make that mistake.

[/quote']

 

Although being able to target non-monsters is another advantage of PWWB, I never said anything about that advantage in my post.

 

trying to get to the next likely point you would have likely brought up if I had only said the first thing.

 

I throw something on top of their deck, and a search effect is used to shuffle it most of the time.

 

and where I play, that means crush card w/ a sangan as the tribute.

 

Assuming that the opponent has a search effect available.

 

Sangan and Crush are ridiculously broken cards and all that, but let's not forget that they are still two Limited cards - one of which cannot be searched, and the other of which can only barely be searched (Sangan can't be ROTA'd or Stratos'd, so it's lucky that Tomato is around), and often won't be.

 

But even then, returning the opponent's card to the deck is better than sending it to the graveyard. So it's an improvement even in the worst-case scenario.

[Professor Cobra]

It was used against my Elemental Hero Flame Wingman, so it is good, when you can use it.

[Megaworm]

i run Divine Wrath. go ahead crab helmet. you KNOW you want to go there.

[iAmNateXero]

It was used against my Elemental Hero Flame Wingman' date=' so it is good, when you can use it.

[/quote']

Ive attacked Flame wingman with My Celtic Guardian. Of course i activated Prideful Roar. But does that make it good? The prideful roar i mean.

[Logmon1]

Question;

 

Could this throy DAD in the grave before its effeck removes a dark, giving them 4 darks?

[iAmNateXero]

Removing is a cost, so no. After it resolves, there will be 3.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Sangan and Crush are ridiculously broken cards and all that' date=' but let's not forget that they are still two Limited cards - one of which cannot be searched,

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What about Gold Sarcophagus?

[iAmNateXero]

^I lost mines, can you trade me one?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Well it's not like crab plays irl.

[CrabHelmet]

Sangan and Crush are ridiculously broken cards and all that' date=' but let's not forget that they are still two Limited cards - one of which cannot be searched,

[/quote']

What about Gold Sarcophagus?

 

In this format? The duel's over by the time Sarc resolves.

 

Not to mention that Sangan wouldn't exactly be my first choice when given the option to search for any card in my deck, given that his purpose is to search other cards.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Sangan? I meant use it to search CCV, since Sangan can be searched by tomato.

 

Also A cat of ill omen can put CCV on top of your deck.

[Lemniscate]

okay, back to the original topic.

PWWB>Divine Wrath

Although both have their uses.

Also, about CCV, superbly broken,

About Sangan, why bother?

[CrabHelmet]

Sangan? I meant use it to search CCV' date=' since Sangan can be searched by tomato.

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'Tis still slow.

 

Also A cat of ill omen can put CCV on top of your deck.

 

Let's have a show of hands: how many people here run A Cat of Ill Omen in their competitive meta decks?

 

That's what I figured.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Sangan? I meant use it to search CCV' date=' since Sangan can be searched by tomato.

[/quote']

 

'Tis still slow.

The chance that you will survive two turns is much greater than the chance you will just draw CCV normally.

[CrabHelmet]

Sangan? I meant use it to search CCV' date=' since Sangan can be searched by tomato.

[/quote']

 

'Tis still slow.

The chance that you will survive two turns is much greater than the chance you will just draw CCV normally.

 

Probably, although the chance that you will survive two turns is diminished by the fact that you just gave yourself a temporary -1 for the course of those two turns.